UFC 236: Holloway vs. Poirier 2 (April 13, 2019)

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 04-01-19, 10:51 PM

**Sanity Check** · 04-01-19, 10:55 PM

Eryk Anders cried on twitter about Tom Brady's "white privilege" during the NFL playoffs.

Hope he loses.

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**firekillex** · 04-01-19, 11:34 PM

loving Israel here , wonder if Kelvin will try and clinch/ press him against the cage here... the reach and distance is going to be all Israel here.. Kelvin has an amazing chin though could see this being a 5 round decision

**TPowell** · 04-02-19, 07:19 AM

I really like Boston potentially and Davis is fighting a guy that has only been a pro for a year. I think fgtd is very live there

**bjpenn85** · 04-02-19, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

I really like Boston potentially and Davis is fighting a guy that has only been a pro for a year. I think fgtd is very live there

And he has fought like 1 minute in his whole career. If you can get KO wins, ufc doesnt care where the wins come from or against who. If you KO three-four homeless people, and youre cellphone starting vibrating, it might just be the UFC. Betting Davis, but not a bunch, maybe a unit or half.

**Sanity Check** · 04-02-19, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

I really like Boston potentially and Davis is fighting a guy that has only been a pro for a year. I think fgtd is very live there

Checkout how many fights Nikita Krylov had in 2012.

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**UncleChael** · 04-02-19, 11:46 AM

Who da fook is that guy??

**Frank Mills** · 04-02-19, 02:07 PM

Thanks Locksmith Can't way !!!

**Demonata** · 04-02-19, 05:39 PM

I got so much weed to watch these fights. I'm pumped!!!!

**PaperTrail07** · 04-03-19, 11:07 AM

Preux seems like the play-he is HUGE.....Krylov seems to win when he is the bigger man....and lost to him before-weird matchup

**PaperTrail07** · 04-03-19, 11:08 AM

WOW lol.....1 every 3-4 weeks...won 16 in a row in the 1st.....

Originally posted by Sanity Check

Checkout how many fights Nikita Krylov had in 2012.

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**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 12:45 PM

Nothing doing this weekend I see

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UFC 236 is the following week.. This is a good one though.. Updated odds on Dimes.

UFC 236 - Lightweight 5 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Sat 4/13	1001 Dustin Poirier	+185
11:59PM	1002 Max Holloway	-225
UFC 236 - Middleweight 5 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Sat 4/13	1101 Kelvin Gastelum	+155
11:30PM	1102 Israel Adesanya	-175
UFC 236 - Light Heavyweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Sat 4/13	1201 Khalil Rountree	+160
11:00PM	1202 Eryk Anders	-185
UFC 236 - Welterweight 3 rounds. - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Sat 4/13	1301 Alan Jouban	-115
10:30PM	1302 Dwight Grant	-105
UFC 236 - Light Heavyweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Sat 4/13	1401 Nikita Krylov	-115
10:00PM	1402 Ovince St Preux	-105
UFC 236 - Lightweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN
Sat 4/13	1501 Matt Frevola	+110
9:30PM	1502 Jalin Turner	-130
UFC 236 - Flyweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN
Sat 4/13	1601 Wilson Reis	+145
9:00PM	1602 Alexandre Pantoja	-165
UFC 236 - Welterweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN
Sat 4/13	1701 Zelim Imadaev	-120
8:30PM	1702 Max Griffin	+100
UFC 236 - Featherweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN
Sat 4/13	1801 Khalid Taha	+110
8:00PM	1802 Boston Salmon	-130
UFC 236 - Welterweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN+
Sat 4/13	1901 Curtis Millender	+105
7:30PM	1902 Belal Muhammad	-125
UFC 236 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN+
Sat 4/13	2001 Andre Soukhamthath	+340
7:00PM	2002 Montel Jackson	-425
UFC 236 - Flyweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN+
Sat 4/13	2101 Lauren Mueller	+135
6:30PM	2102 Poliana Botelho	-155
UFC 236 - Featherweight 3 rounds - State Farm Arena - Atlanta, Georgia - ESPN+
Sat 4/13	2201 Randy Costa	+135
6:15PM	2202 Brandon Davis	-155

**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

loving Israel here , wonder if Kelvin will try and clinch/ press him against the cage here... the reach and distance is going to be all Israel here.. Kelvin has an amazing chin though could see this being a 5 round decision

Gas might try to take him down.. I think Gas has a chance if he can ground Israel... Big if though???

If it goes the distance it's gonna be Israel for sure.. 3 of his last 4 fights have gone to decision.. Gas does have a chin..

Just a moment...

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Israel-Adesanya-56374

The only prop out yet is this.. +145

Kelvin Gastelum vs Israel Adesanya - Middleweight 5 rounds - UFC 236
Sat 4/13	1103 Gastelum / Adesanya goes 5 rd distance	+145
11:59PM	1104 Fight won’t go 5 round distance	-185

**PaperTrail07** · 04-04-19, 12:55 PM

On KG+$ , Anders, Jouban, Preux, Reis+$ at a glance.

**PaperTrail07** · 04-04-19, 12:56 PM

Also big on Holloway---

**firekillex** · 04-04-19, 01:24 PM

Holloway does get hit and Porier has some solid power but i think at 55 Holloways chin will be granite and hell get a late finish or decision win..... dont love betting anything straight -200 or more so probably just sprinkle him into multiple parlays

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 04-04-19, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Also big on Holloway---

hard to go against Max right now...this fight is revenge as well

**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Also big on Holloway---

I think you gotta go with Holloway also in this one. DP is fighting better these days and with confidence though... He's on a nice little win streak right now.

Just a moment...

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dustin-Poirier-50529

**bjpenn85** · 04-04-19, 02:15 PM

Off course you shouldnt bet Holloway, wayy too close fight and you dont get any return on Holloway either, its a no brainer, clear pass. No value on Holloway.

**bjpenn85** · 04-04-19, 02:17 PM

You get better price with Israel who has a million centimeter of reach and wont get taken down, to MUUUUUUUCH cheaper price, how can anyone even risking money on Holloway when you got gold just next to it?

Blown away, get a grip people.

**PaperTrail07** · 04-04-19, 02:36 PM

Its not that crazy....Holloway is an animal LOL......guy should be -250+....his last loss he was 1/2 the size and getting pushed around

Originally posted by bjpenn85

You get better price with Israel who has a million centimeter of reach and wont get taken down, to MUUUUUUUCH cheaper price, how can anyone even risking money on Holloway when you got gold just next to it?

Blown away, get a grip people.

**bjpenn85** · 04-04-19, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Its not that crazy....Holloway is an animal LOL......guy should be -250+....his last loss he was 1/2 the size and getting pushed around

Holloway is the man, but cant bet him at those odds imo. Dustion Poirier is also very tuf, and he has power, so this may be a fakking sweat if youre thinking about going heavy on Holloway. This def has upset potenial. I think Holloway is the better fighter, but i dont think hes that much better that im willing to bet money at this price. Since the odds say that Holloway should win 7/10 times, is there room for a bet here? Do you mean he should win 8/10? Im not convinced.

**PaperTrail07** · 04-04-19, 03:16 PM

ITD -125 will most likely be my play----guessing on the -125 but seems about right...

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Holloway is the man, but cant bet him at those odds imo. Dustion Poirier is also very tuf, and he has power, so this may be a fakking sweat if youre thinking about going heavy on Holloway. This def has upset potenial. I think Holloway is the better fighter, but i dont think hes that much better that im willing to bet money at this price. Since the odds say that Holloway should win 7/10 times, is there room for a bet here? Do you mean he should win 8/10? Im not convinced.

**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 03:18 PM

DP will probably test Blessed's chin that's for sure... If I had to pick a winner though it's Max Holloway, bit of beast standing.. Probably will KO DP if I had to guess..

Very crisp boxing

**bjpenn85** · 04-04-19, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

ITD -125 will most likely be my play----guessing on the -125 but seems about right...

I dont have a clear view of how this will end up, but i think its a 50/50 type scenario so, -125, yeah it pretty close i guess. Ill just lean back and fakking enjoy this fight. My money wont be placed here, but i will enjoy every second. I rather go for people with holes in their game, these gentlemans are the absolute cream of the crop. I dont see any big holes to exploit. But holloway may find it though...over time, he creates shit out of nothing and builds momentum. But the fight doesnt need to play out like that just becauese this is how i envision it,...thats just one out. So clear pass, in my book.

**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 03:43 PM

DP does bring it, he beat the smack out of one other Hawaiian already..

Beat the crap out of my boy Justin

Punished Eddie badly also.

DP does well against brawlers, super skilled boxers not so much..

**Unwritten Law** · 04-04-19, 03:57 PM

Max should deliver with more volume and until he loses, I won't bet against him. I don't see him losing this fight as he will have extra motivation to avenge his loss. Max bet Max.

**JIBBBY** · 04-04-19, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

Max should deliver with more volume and until he loses, I won't bet against him. I don't see him losing this fight as he will have extra motivation to avenge his loss. Max bet Max.

Max needs to keep the fight standing I believe.. He does not want to get caught in something like this again.

**bjpenn85** · 04-05-19, 05:59 AM

That being said, at a better price tag i dont have any issues with taking Holloway. Need more casual fans coming in on the wrong side, most likely on saturday before i pull the trigger.

**Unwritten Law** · 04-05-19, 06:33 AM

Max isn't getting caught on the ground and Dustin knows that. He will have to catch him in the stand up this time around and that's when Max should light him up.

**bjpenn85** · 04-05-19, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

Max isn't getting caught on the ground and Dustin knows that. He will have to catch him in the stand up this time around and that's when Max should light him up.

Max holloway has for many years ago already proved that his ground game is really good, so i dont have any fear he wouldnt fare well on the ground. For me the only problem is the price....because poirier is dangerous, If Dustin inside distance prop is very reasonable and the price on Holloway gets better, i might be able to play Holloway

**Enfuego** · 04-05-19, 10:17 PM

Do we think Poirier is a better fighter than Ortega?

**firekillex** · 04-06-19, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Enfuego

Do we think Poirier is a better fighter than Ortega?

100%

**bjpenn85** · 04-06-19, 10:07 AM

100%