UFC Fight Night: Cejudo vs. Dillashaw - January 19th

**bjpenn85** · 01-01-19, 04:57 PM

Lets talk

**rsynweap84** · 01-01-19, 05:17 PM

ok so fight pass is no use now?

**bjpenn85** · 01-01-19, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by rsynweap84

ok so fight pass is no use now?

I dont know. It may be, but do think that they still will post fights but how often? no clue.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 01-01-19, 07:28 PM

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-01-19, 07:42 PM

Thanks Locky! Much appreciated!

**Thrilla** · 01-02-19, 04:15 AM

Size em up

**bjpenn85** · 01-02-19, 10:05 AM

5 units on my boy Killashaw!

**CasaBonita** · 01-03-19, 11:37 AM

I just put 7units con Dillashaw... and run to this video tbh i dont like it he looks tired and slopy when talking almost like Max cuting to fight Ortega the first time, what do u guys think? Myabe his just tired? Hope SO!

**Thrilla** · 01-03-19, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by CasaBonita

I just put 7units con Dillashaw... and run to this video tbh i dont like it he looks tired and slopy when talking almost like Max cuting to fight Ortega the first time, what do u guys think? Myabe his just tired? Hope SO!

In Holloway's case Bisping started saying shit after a FOX TV interview and the ball got rolling from there. Like Paul Felder said during 231: that's just the way Holloway normally talks. It's just Max being Max.

In TJ's case he seems fine to me + I can see right away the camera isn't recording proper so...Not much to draw conclusions over here either.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-04-19, 12:22 AM

What do people think about Greg Hardy?

**bjpenn85** · 01-04-19, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

What do people think about Greg Hardy?

I havent watched tape, but the odds are so juiced right now that i dont know if breaking fights down is any point. Are you thinking of betting inside distance prop @ -400?

**CasaBonita** · 01-04-19, 03:25 AM

I got Hardy ITD he has power and super athletic, also i think UFC want to make him a star so his gonna get all the good matchups

At the same time, he dosent have that much experience and is HW... but ill gamble a lil bit

**bjpenn85** · 01-04-19, 07:07 AM

But is so much juice is it worth it? Is round 1 to risky?

**CasaBonita** · 01-04-19, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

But is so much juice is it worth it? Is round 1 to risky?

maybe not

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-04-19, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

I havent watched tape, but the odds are so juiced right now that i dont know if breaking fights down is any point. Are you thinking of betting inside distance prop @ -400?

I parlayed some at the opening price of (-280)

**ichiro4thehall** · 01-04-19, 02:02 PM

I think Cejudo has huge value here. I thought the fight was at 135lbs at first but being at flyweight this is a big advantage for Cejudo. If this was bantamweight these odds would be reasonable, but I'd be shocked if Cejudo's odds don't shorten a lot by fight night.

**CasaBonita** · 01-04-19, 03:49 PM

I saw more interview from TJ i think he dosent look good at all i have allready bets on him and ill just roll wiht them, but gonna hedge maybe getting near to fight week if TJ looks unhealthy and slow...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-04-19, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by ichiro4thehall

I think Cejudo has huge value here. I thought the fight was at 135lbs at first but being at flyweight this is a big advantage for Cejudo. If this was bantamweight these odds would be reasonable, but I'd be shocked if Cejudo's odds don't shorten a lot by fight night.

Why did he have huge value aside from the weight class?

**ichiro4thehall** · 01-04-19, 04:58 PM

The weight class is the huge value. At bantamweight Dillishaw is maybe -200, but the lower weight class helps Cejudo so much as he is primarily a wrestler and he's going to have a relative strengh advantage at this weight compared to bantamweight, plus Dillashaw is going to be lighter and easier for him to control on the ground and keep down.

I'm not saying Cejudo is a fav at the lower weight class, simply that Cejudo should be a shorter price fighting at a lower weight class.

If this fight were at bantamweight, are you saying you think the odds would be exactly the same?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-04-19, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by ichiro4thehall

The weight class is the huge value. At bantamweight Dillishaw is maybe -200, but the lower weight class helps Cejudo so much as he is primarily a wrestler and he's going to have a relative strengh advantage at this weight compared to bantamweight, plus Dillashaw is going to be lighter and easier for him to control on the ground and keep down.

I'm not saying Cejudo is a fav at the lower weight class, simply that Cejudo should be a shorter price fighting at a lower weight class.

If this fight were at bantamweight, are you saying you think the odds would be exactly the same?

No I'm not. I think TJ should be an even bigger favorite at Bantamweight. He has a MASSIVE advantage in the striking, excellent Takedown Defense, and great getups for the rare times that he is taken down. This is a very tough style matchup of Cejudo, who in my opinion lost to DJ in their second fight (though it was very close).

**ichiro4thehall** · 01-04-19, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

No I'm not. I think TJ should be an even bigger favorite at Bantamweight. He has a MASSIVE advantage in the striking, excellent Takedown Defense, and great getups for the rare times that he is taken down. This is a very tough style matchup of Cejudo, who in my opinion lost to DJ in their second fight (though it was very close).

We completely agree on almost everything. I agree DJ edged second fight and Cejudo def didn't win clear enough to take belt away from P4P champ and double-digit defending champ. I think Dillishaw should be -200 and -150 ish at 135 and 125 lbs respectively. You think he should be a clearer fav in each.

What happened about plans to get rid of flyweight? When DJ switched organisations the rumour was one of the main reasons Dana allowed it was he planned to abolish flyweight. That, and the fact in his second DJ fight post-fight interview Cejudo called out Dillishaw, and I thought he called him out at bantamweight, made me think this fight was happening at 135.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-05-19, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by ichiro4thehall

We completely agree on almost everything. I agree DJ edged second fight and Cejudo def didn't win clear enough to take belt away from P4P champ and double-digit defending champ. I think Dillishaw should be -200 and -150 ish at 135 and 125 lbs respectively. You think he should be a clearer fav in each.

What happened about plans to get rid of flyweight? When DJ switched organisations the rumour was one of the main reasons Dana allowed it was he planned to abolish flyweight. That, and the fact in his second DJ fight post-fight interview Cejudo called out Dillishaw, and I thought he called him out at bantamweight, made me think this fight was happening at 135.

I think they are still planning to close Flyweight but will reserve judgement until after this fight.

**bjpenn85** · 01-05-19, 04:16 AM

i like Sandhagen a lot, could be a close fight but i think i favour sandhagen. i do think sandhagen has the movement and striking variety mixed with a good enough ground game to dillashaw lineker a bit. I maybe wrong here. i am however not going to bet it as my money is tied up in dillashaw.

Im just throwing it out there...

**Thrilla** · 01-05-19, 08:43 AM

Joe Rogan experience

**Thrilla** · 01-05-19, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by ichiro4thehall

I think Cejudo has huge value here. I thought the fight was at 135lbs at first but being at flyweight this is a big advantage for Cejudo. If this was bantamweight these odds would be reasonable, but I'd be shocked if Cejudo's odds don't shorten a lot by fight night.

According to mr. Rogan: Cejudo is a huge 125er. Struggles alot cutting down weight to 125.

Edit:

Dude watch both JRE videos posted above and hear what they have to say. I think Cejudo fighting at 125 could even be a disadvantage.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-05-19, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Thrilla

According to mr. Rogan: Cejudo is a huge 125er. Struggles alot cutting down weight to 125.

Edit:

Dude watch both JRE videos posted above and hear what they have to say. I think Cejudo fighting at 125 could even be a disadvantage.

Cejudo has struggled to make weight in the past but Dillashaw will definitely have a bigger cut. When they both fought at UFC 227, Dillashaw weighed 150 pounds on fight day while Cejudo weighed 141 pounds.

**CasaBonita** · 01-05-19, 05:04 PM

I guess u guys convince me im all over TJ now lets go Snake!

**firekillex** · 01-06-19, 04:44 PM

am i the only one here who believes TJ Dillashaw has/ is using steroids?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-06-19, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

am i the only one here who believes TJ Dillashaw has/ is using steroids?

"All these motherfuckers are on steroids"
-Nick Diaz

Yeah I think there's a good chance he's using SARMs of something of that sort.

**firekillex** · 01-06-19, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

"All these motherfuckers are on steroids"
-Nick Diaz

Yeah I think there's a good chance he's using SARMs of something of that sort.

i think its 99% chance hes on something tbh...
funny because Diaz called out Mcgregor and everybody for steroids but i think Mcgregor is one of the guys who doesnt use steroids lmao

**JIBBBY** · 01-07-19, 11:39 AM

So much time between UFC events now

...

Not impressed with this card by the way. I'm looking forward to the Prelims more then the Main. Cap it next week..

**UncleChael** · 01-08-19, 09:10 AM

You're crazy if you don't think Henry Cejudo doesn't have a chance.

**firekillex** · 01-08-19, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

You're crazy if you don't think Henry Cejudo doesn't have a chance.

id put his chances at 15% max

**Hugo de Naranja** · 01-08-19, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

You're crazy if you don't think Henry Cejudo doesn't have a chance.

I’m confused by this wording. What do you mean?

Flyweight	Henry Cejudo (c)	vs.	T.J. Dillashaw	^[a]
Heavyweight	Greg Hardy	vs.	Allen Crowder
Lightweight	Gregor Gillespie	vs.	Yancy Medeiros
Flyweight	Joseph Benavidez	vs.	Dustin Ortiz
Women's Flyweight	Paige VanZant	vs.	Rachael Ostovich
Light Heavyweight	Glover Teixeira	vs.	Ion Cuțelaba
Lightweight	Donald Cerrone	vs.	Alexander Hernandez
Women's Flyweight	Joanne Calderwood	vs.	Ariane Lipski
Light Heavyweight	Alonzo Menifield	vs.	Vinicius Moreira
Bantamweight	John Lineker	vs.	Cory Sandhagen
Lightweight	Dennis Bermudez	vs.	Te'Jovan Edwards
Welterweight	Belal Muhammad	vs.	Geoff Neal
Welterweight	Randy Brown	vs.	Chance Rencountre