UFC on Fox: Lawler vs. dos Anjos (December 16, 2017)

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  • firekillex
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    #106
    sidenote tim elliot saying his opponent missed weight by 5lbs and the fight is off?
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    • PaperTrail07
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      #107
      Damn !
      Originally posted by firekillex
      sidenote tim elliot saying his opponent missed weight by 5lbs and the fight is off?
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      • PaperTrail07
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        #108
        Appears to be the case here....penetrate.....He wants PAID...
        Originally posted by firekillex
        sidenote tim elliot saying his opponent missed weight by 5lbs and the fight is off?
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        • PaperTrail07
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          #109
          Said the company offered him (20%) of other fighter's $- to fight the guy over 5 LBS.....that turned out to be 2K LOL LOL LOL LOL....so he said F it...Fight OFF...
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          • firekillex
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            #110
            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
            Said the company offered him (20%) of other fighter's $- to fight the guy over 5 LBS.....that turned out to be 2K LOL LOL LOL LOL....so he said F it...Fight OFF...
            what a joke
            stupid how people make weight and show up for the fight and now he is being punished and doesnt get his full pay because his opponent missed weight and was unprofessional

            sucks was looking forward to seeing tim elliot fighting hes exciting to watch
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
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              #111
              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
              Said the company offered him (20%) of other fighter's $- to fight the guy over 5 LBS.....that turned out to be 2K LOL LOL LOL LOL....so he said F it...Fight OFF...

              Dana White won't like this.. Bad business decision for Timmy.. I think you still gotta take the fight and just man up to please the UFC Gods... Stay in their good graces...
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              • PaperTrail07
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                #112
                100% agree.....Pay the man his $$...... Did his camp , put in his work...
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                • PaperTrail07
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                  #113
                  Coin Flip for me but I see what your saying...D White USUALLY pays and respects people who save cards...BUT.....not much incentive....could lose...outside the division....5 pounds light..extra 2K might as well be an extra ZERO IMO.....that's embarrassing IMO.....
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  Dana White won't like this.. Bad business decision for Timmy.. I think you still gotta take the fight and just man up to please the UFC Gods... Stay in their good graces...
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                  • firekillex
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                    #114
                    jibby trying to make UFC the least professional sport in the sports realm
                    take fights when your opponent misses weight by 5lbs , which at 125lbs is almost a full weight class up

                    would have every judge fired for "bad decisions"

                    and 10 point deduction for counter striking
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                    • firekillex
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                      Coin Flip for me but I see what your saying...D White USUALLY pays and respects people who save cards...BUT.....not much incentive....could lose...outside the division....5 pounds light..extra 2K might as well be an extra ZERO IMO.....that's embarrassing IMO.....
                      agreed... 2k is literally nothing , obviously elliot wants to fight guy kills himself to make 125
                      but that money compared to what happens IF he losses is peanuts, weve seen in past cards people who are overweight win a TON
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        #116
                        I hope FOX mentions the 2,000 amount...... Thats embarrassing to even mention that small amount of $ while also acting like the biggest most badass fight league around....the octagon is surrounded by media covering this fight that make more than 2K a week.. JOKE
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          • 12-10-09
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                          Coin Flip for me but I see what your saying...D White USUALLY pays and respects people who save cards...BUT.....not much incentive....could lose...outside the division....5 pounds light..extra 2K might as well be an extra ZERO IMO.....that's embarrassing IMO.....
                          Well, Dana White remembers when fighters step up to save cards.. They usually get rewarded with an extra fight down the road before they begin to suck and get cut.. Have a little say on things in the future... 5 pounds isn't a game changer either..

                          If it were 10 pounds then I'd say back out, dude probably killed himself during the wieght cut process also before missing the 5 pounds....

                          Tim's a pussy.. Bad move...
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                            This had me ROLLING lol.... Gonna hear about this toe YEARS from now LOL LOL JK
                            for some reason the bunion scene in "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka" comes to mind...

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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                              This had me ROLLING lol.... Gonna hear about this toe YEARS from now LOL LOL JK
                              Dude, this toe break sucked.. I don't care what anyone says.. Was a nasty break even for a middle toe.. I can finally wear a shoe now.. Back to light running.. Jibs is back...

                              A little sympathy please!!! ...
                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-15-17, 03:44 PM.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Dude, this toe break sucked.. I don't care what anyone says.. Was a nasty break even for a middle toe.. I can finally wear a show now.. Back to light running.. Jibs is back...

                                A little sympathy please!!! ...
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                                • ken10
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                                  #121
                                  How is Marquez’s defense? He seems sloppy at times. Risk of getting KOed himself?
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                                  • Shagdogy
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                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                    I don't think Laprise will be that overwhelmed by the spinning attacks ect....weather the storm and after round 1 it SHOULD be all Laprise IMO...
                                    Do you have reason to doubt Bofando's conditioning?
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      #123
                                      Not really the cardio I am doubting...I just think he might take a diff approach and become more selective/less aggressive if his shots don't land like he intends them too....which I DONT think they will....
                                      Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                      Do you have reason to doubt Bofando's conditioning?
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                                      • Shagdogy
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        Not really the cardio I am doubting...I just think he might take a diff approach and become more selective/less aggressive if his shots don't land like he intends them too....which I DONT think they will....
                                        Do you think Laprise will land often on Bofando? He has not had to close the distance at all in his past 3 fights because he has had fighters that were willing to walk right into his range. Bofando will stay very far outside and will only enter on his terms. Laprise will need very fast counters to be able to land on Bofando when he comes forward, BUT Bofando protects his head very well by closing distance behind kicks. That counter right that Laprise landed to put away Gouti rushed in head first. Bofando doesn't do that.

                                        I think we will find out a lot about Bofando in this fight. I think he could potentially outstrike Laprise over 3 rounds, but to get that decision in Canada will be tough.

                                        Who do you guys think holds the advantage in the clinch? Bofando has always looked strong, athletic, and had good balance in the clinch but I admit he's faced some poor competition. Laprise hasn't implemented much of a TD game of late and he did just move up a weight class.
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                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                          #125
                                          Hopefully it does not end up in some odd split decision.....I don't don't see Laprise fearing his striking much and walking forward.....could bofando dance his way to a 3 round decision.....sure....do you think bofando has a chance to end this fight? I don't...but this will easily be the toughest person bofando has ever faced....
                                          Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                          Do you think Laprise will land often on Bofando? He has not had to close the distance at all in his past 3 fights because he has had fighters that were willing to walk right into his range. Bofando will stay very far outside and will only enter on his terms. Laprise will need very fast counters to be able to land on Bofando when he comes forward, BUT Bofando protects his head very well by closing distance behind kicks. That counter right that Laprise landed to put away Gouti rushed in head first. Bofando doesn't do that.

                                          I think we will find out a lot about Bofando in this fight. I think he could potentially outstrike Laprise over 3 rounds, but to get that decision in Canada will be tough.

                                          Who do you guys think holds the advantage in the clinch? Bofando has always looked strong, athletic, and had good balance in the clinch but I admit he's faced some poor competition. Laprise hasn't implemented much of a TD game of late and he did just move up a weight class.
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                                          • Shagdogy
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                            Hopefully it does not end up in some odd split decision.....I don't don't see Laprise fearing his striking much and walking forward.....could bofando dance his way to a 3 round decision.....sure....do you think bofando has a chance to end this fight? I don't...but this will easily be the toughest person bofando has ever faced....
                                            I definitely think he has a chance to get the finish. Laprise got dropped by the left hand of Trinaldo and if Bofando lands one of his kicks or straight punches cleanly I think he packs just as much.

                                            I think that Laprise's path to victory is to constantly march forward and make Bofando move constantly and use so much physical and mental energy reacting that he wears down. To win the striking I think Laprise needs to be in the pocket but to this point in his career Bofando makes sure there literally is no pocket when you fight him. He stays so far outside and if you really force the issue and come forward you end up in the clinch. That's why I think the clinch game could play a large role. That may be Laprise's way to slow down Bofando and wear him out.
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                                            • MMANick
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                              He won me my most recent max bet so giving him props, but I mean, does anyone not named Ngannou have much of a future in the HW division right now?
                                              Man, if the odds get too crazy in favor of Ngannou, I'm betting Stipe. Dude has a well rounded game, crisp striking and a fukking chin.
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                                              • Shagdogy
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by MMANick
                                                Man, if the odds get too crazy in favor of Ngannou, I'm betting Stipe. Dude has a well rounded game, crisp striking and a fukking chin.
                                                Stipe was rocked badly by Overeem.
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                                                • BIGDAY
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                                                  #129
                                                  Getting excited for this card!
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                                                  • Shagdogy
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                    Getting excited for this card!
                                                    What do you like?
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                                                    • MMANick
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                      Stipe was rocked badly by Overeem.
                                                      He survived and won. Reem was scared to get hit by Ngannou, Stipe will have no fear standing with him. Reem is as chinny as they come.
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                                                      • Shagdogy
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by MMANick
                                                        He survived and won. Reem was scared to get hit by Ngannou, Stipe will have no fear standing with him. Reem is as chinny as they come.
                                                        I understand Reem is chinny but you watched that left hook of death by Ngannou and that's your takeaway?

                                                        I bet Overeem in that fight because he was by far the most technical and savvy striker that Ngannou had faced but if you don't give Ngannou's power the credit it deserves after seeing that then I donno what you watched.
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                                                        • firekillex
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                                                          #133
                                                          Ngannou hits any human on planet earth in the chin its night night
                                                          his technique is funky and hes still fairly green which is scary

                                                          stipe will want to stick and move , pepper him with lighter shots and probably bring it into the later rounds for a finish
                                                          but if Ngannou hits you once its done, this isnt a fight you go big on either side
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                                                          • UncleChael
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                                                            #134
                                                            Can I hedge my 100 bp Hugo? They don't like RDA up here and I might wanna cheer for him tomorrow night.
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                                                            • BIGDAY
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                              What do you like?
                                                              Checking last minute sources. But fairly certain a rare 5Unit Max Wager will be on tap.

                                                              Vid tomorrow.
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                Can I hedge my 100 bp Hugo? They don't like RDA up here and I might wanna cheer for him tomorrow night.
                                                                How so?
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Also I loved that you cropped Aljo out of your pic.
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                                                                  • UncleChael
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    How so?
                                                                    They want Robbie to deliver the knockout.
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                                                                    • thewitchinghour
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      everything I own on RDA tomorrow... he is looking like a MONSTER right now
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                                                                      • Shagdogy
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by thewitchinghour
                                                                        everything I own on RDA tomorrow... he is looking like a MONSTER right now
                                                                        I'm gonna spend some time on this one today but I think I agree. Seems like two guys moving in opposite directions. This may be the time to fade Lawlor before he becomes permanent fade material, and get on RDA before everyone admits he's legit here at 170.
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