UFC on Fox: Lawler vs. dos Anjos (December 16, 2017)

[Sato]

[Hugo de Naranja]

Thanks for starting up the thread!

[PaperTrail07]

PON>PERRY GET IT

[PaperTrail07]

Really Love these matchups .....AMAZING CARD top to bottom....Lot of names I am excited to see

[firekillex]

PON>PERRY GET IT

easy win tbh

jouban showed the blue print to beat Perry imo

[MadTiger]

There are going to be some sad, KTFO mofos on this card. I am looking forward to it!

[firekillex]

anybody have a read on Lawler/ RDA very hard fight to cap imo.. the odds are about right, i could see either guy winning this fight
RDA has struggled with super aggressive fighters, but it depends what Lawler we see in this bout, id lean Robbie but RDA has looked good lately and Lawler has taken some damage lately

[JAKEPEAVY21]

PON>PERRY GET IT

hope so, I can't stand Perry and hope to see him get put to sleep

Really Love these matchups .....AMAZING CARD top to bottom....Lot of names I am excited to see

agreed nice card especially the main card..

[JAKEPEAVY21]

why isn't the Lamas vs Emmett fight listed in the copy/paste from Sherdog in the OP?

[UncleChael]

Let's go MIKE PERRY!!

[Sato]

why isn't the Lamas vs Emmett fight listed in the copy/paste from Sherdog in the OP?

Fixed. Sry.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Fixed. Sry.

[strictlypaypal]

Thought Santiago would open up at -220. From a technical standpoint does anyone think perry can beat santiago here in a decision? Perry can catch him for sure but i feel thats the only way. I love Perry too, my top 4 fav fighters i just think this is a bad match up. He actually should be at lightweight. There was videos on his IG this past weekend and he looks very doughy but its because he doesnt have to cut much. I really hope he can win this but i think the woodleys and Tills mop the floor with him

[Shagdogy]

Working my way from bottom up... fight #1, Roberts/Taleb: looks like Roberts should be the tougher, grittier fighter. He gets hit and takes damage but his chin holds up pretty well and he doesn't mind taking one to give one. Can Taleb hang in there in a dirty, dangerous fight? I don't think he matches Roberts's grit. Sure Taleb's striking is neat and clean, but I don't think he has enough fight in him to win this one.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Perry calls him Santiago Pinocchio lol

[Hugo de Naranja]

Thought Santiago would open up at -220. From a technical standpoint does anyone think perry can beat santiago here in a decision? Perry can catch him for sure but i feel thats the only way. I love Perry too, my top 4 fav fighters i just think this is a bad match up. He actually should be at lightweight. There was videos on his IG this past weekend and he looks very doughy but its because he doesnt have to cut much. I really hope he can win this but i think the woodleys and Tills mop the floor with him

I think Perry is super live. Ponz likes to exchange and his stick-and-move out fighting game is overrated. He's also been dropped and finished before (Sean Strickland dropped him for god's sake) and Perry is a knockdown machine. Perry is unlikely to land more volume but he could edge rounds with big moments like he did against Danny Roberts. I think this is actually one of the better top 15 matchups for Perry.

[Hugo de Naranja]

anybody have a read on Lawler/ RDA very hard fight to cap imo.. the odds are about right, i could see either guy winning this fight
RDA has struggled with super aggressive fighters, but it depends what Lawler we see in this bout, id lean Robbie but RDA has looked good lately and Lawler has taken some damage lately

I think RDA is WW Champion within a year. I like his pressure, leg kicks, and TDs to win him a close decision against Lawler. RDA is a real bad matchup for Woodley too if he can get to a title fight.

[Shagdogy]

Working my way from bottom up... fight #1, Roberts/Taleb: looks like Roberts should be the tougher, grittier fighter. He gets hit and takes damage but his chin holds up pretty well and he doesn't mind taking one to give one. Can Taleb hang in there in a dirty, dangerous fight? I don't think he matches Roberts's grit. Sure Taleb's striking is neat and clean, but I don't think he has enough fight in him to win this one.

Just realized we're dealing with CANADIAN JUDGES for this card. Don't underestimate that in your capping!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I think RDA is WW Champion within a year. I like his pressure, leg kicks, and TDs to win him a close decision against Lawler. RDA is a real bad matchup for Woodley too if he can get to a title fight.

I like RDA over Lawler as well. I think at this point in their careers, he has Lawler beat in almost every category except for one punch KO power. I expect RDA to use his movement, speed and timely takedowns to get a decision.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Just realized we're dealing with CANADIAN JUDGES for this card. Don't underestimate that in your capping!

Thanks for the reminder!

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hugo's 100 Point Trivia Question:
Which fighter on this card has over 10 UFC fights but has never fought outside of the United States in his professional career?

First correct response gets 100 BetPoints.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Hugo's 100 Point Trivia Question:
Which fighter on this card has over 10 UFC fights but has never fought outside of the United States in his professional career?

First correct response gets 100 BetPoints.

Robbie Lawler

[Hugo de Naranja]

Robbie Lawler

Mr JakePeavy showing up again. I believe this is the second contest you've won. Congrats!

[Shagdogy]

Fight #2: Mein vs. Silva: Don't have a big, long breakdown for this one. Neither fighter seems like they can be relied on for much. Mein has shown flashes of his dangerous striking early in his fights, but then fades badly. Meanwhile, Silva manages to get rocked constantly even if his chin recovers very quickly. Seems like there are two likely outcomes: 1) Mein has success with powerful combos early and manages to land hard enough to really hurt Silva. If he comes out pumped up and excited to perform for the Canadian crowd, I could see the relatively early finish for Mein. 2) If Mein can't get the finish, then Silva has a good chance of out working Mein as he fades and most likely winning the decision or maybe getting the late stoppage.

Like I said, I don't find either guy reliable so I wouldn't commit much to this fight. If Mein TKO/KO is good plus money it may be worth a stab. Silva tends to cover up in a shell when guys string together multiple punch combos and Mein can do just that in round 1. Plus, Silva gets rocked all the time, even if he recovers quickly. Probably won't be betting this fight at all, but maybe Mein TKO/KO if it's good value.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Mr JakePeavy showing up again. I believe this is the second contest you've won. Congrats!

thank you, OJ

[Hugo de Naranja]

Fight #2: Mein vs. Silva: Don't have a big, long breakdown for this one. Neither fighter seems like they can be relied on for much. Mein has shown flashes of his dangerous striking early in his fights, but then fades badly. Meanwhile, Silva manages to get rocked constantly even if his chin recovers very quickly. Seems like there are two likely outcomes: 1) Mein has success with powerful combos early and manages to land hard enough to really hurt Silva. If he comes out pumped up and excited to perform for the Canadian crowd, I could see the relatively early finish for Mein. 2) If Mein can't get the finish, then Silva has a good chance of out working Mein as he fades and most likely winning the decision or maybe getting the late stoppage.

Like I said, I don't find either guy reliable so I wouldn't commit much to this fight. If Mein TKO/KO is good plus money it may be worth a stab. Silva tends to cover up in a shell when guys string together multiple punch combos and Mein can do just that in round 1. Plus, Silva gets rocked all the time, even if he recovers quickly. Probably won't be betting this fight at all, but maybe Mein TKO/KO if it's good value.

I think Mein is totally shot. Hasn't done anything past R1 in his past couple fights after his long hiatus. Also Silva has underrated BJJ. I do agree that KO/TKO is Mein's most likely path to victory.

[Hugo de Naranja]

thank you, OJ

Did you know that one straight off or did you check out Tapology? I just stumbled on that factoid today.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Did you know that one straight off or did you check out Tapology? I just stumbled on that factoid today.

looked on Wikipedia and was surprised it was Lawler.

[firekillex]

I think RDA is WW Champion within a year. I like his pressure, leg kicks, and TDs to win him a close decision against Lawler. RDA is a real bad matchup for Woodley too if he can get to a title fight.

hmmm, i cant see him beating some of the guys in the top 5 . but i agree him vs woodley would be a great matchup for him to win
would all depend how UFC wants to match him up, be honestly if he beats Lawler convincingly i could see him already getting the next shot

[Hugo de Naranja]

looked on Wikipedia and was surprised it was Lawler.

Me too. He's been around forever. Would have thought he would have fought in Brazil or Japan or something.

[Hugo de Naranja]

hmmm, i cant see him beating some of the guys in the top 5 . but i agree him vs woodley would be a great matchup for him to win
would all depend how UFC wants to match him up, be honestly if he beats Lawler convincingly i could see him already getting the next shot

Who would you say are the toughest top 5 matchups?

[Shagdogy]

I think Mein is totally shot. Hasn't done anything past R1 in his past couple fights after his long hiatus. Also Silva has underrated BJJ. I do agree that KO/TKO is Mein's most likely path to victory.

Yeah he has looked pretty bad, and his most recent fight with Muhammad he looked even worse than normal by trying to conserve his energy and fight more measured. That didn't work out for him at all. He needs to come out early when he's fresh and look to land on Silva's chin right away or he is going to gas and get beat up and maybe stopped. Honestly, I don't really wanna bet on either guy, and prob won't.

[UncleChael]

Countdown for this card is up.

https://youtu.be/dSCQFjuLAz0

[Hugo de Naranja]

Yeah he has looked pretty bad, and his most recent fight with Muhammad he looked even worse than normal by trying to conserve his energy and fight more measured. That didn't work out for him at all. He needs to come out early when he's fresh and look to land on Silva's chin right away or he is going to gas and get beat up and maybe stopped. Honestly, I don't really wanna bet on either guy, and prob won't.

Btw I like the new Justin Willis avatar. What do you think his ceiling in the HW Division is?

[Hugo de Naranja]

For those that like Lawler here, I think Lawler Scorecards = No Action (+106) is far superior to Lawler ML (-105). To me, Lawler is the more likely finisher (especially by KO) and RDA is the more likely roundwinner. Lawler has been known to take entire rounds off. In his recent fights, he was down 3-1 against MacDonald in their rematch, many scored the Condit fight against him, and the Cowboy fight was close (Lawler did nothing in R2). I wouldn't say that Lawler needs a finish to win but I think KO/TKO (+254) is definitely his best path to victory because he will probably have a negative strike differential and could spend time on his back throughout the fight.