UFC on FOX: Weidman vs. Gastelum (July 22, 2017)

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Agreed. Both were interesting but you really couldn't see enough of Kelleher and Albini to have a complete picture of what they can do. While Albini's hands did look smooth, he got a hit a bunch of times by Johnson when he rushed forward. It didn't seem to bother Albini but if Timothy Johnson can get hands on you that easy... he better have a chin.

Johnson doesnt seem to have to much power, probably because he always moving and not settling. I dont think junior was hurt at all. But all of juniors strike that landed had immediate effect on johnson.

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 04:37 PM

OMG Bochniak what a dumbass. He couldn't have made it easier for Kennedy to get that takedown... you know, the one thing he didn't want to have happen.

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Johnson doesnt seem to have to much power, probably because he always moving and not settling. I dont think junior was hurt at all. But all of juniors strike that landed had immediate effect on johnson.

Of course, but someone else Junior fights might have power. Is he still going to be hittable?

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 04:41 PM

Wow. Bochniak's coach says "Now we know what he wants to do. Let's not come forward so aggressively." HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THIS COMING INTO THE FIGHT?? Everyone knows what Kennedy wants to do. If you needed that first round to figure it out then what the hell have you been doing all training camp?? Terrible.

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Of course, but someone else Junior fights might have power. Is he still going to be hittable?

You could absolutely be right, fight was over so quick, it feels hard to conclude at all. It might me a symptom of weak defence, or just that johnson surprised him with a flurry. round 1 in mma, especially first minutes may be very chaotic before fights settle.

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 04:46 PM

I can't remember missing this badly on a fight in a long time. Bochniak looks horrible. Bad preparation and coaching. Bad in fight IQ. No ability to adjust. Out of his league from the beginning. This guy is now on the permanent black list.

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 04:53 PM

Bochniak sucks, i lost respeck for him when he lost to barzola, friggin barzola.

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Bochniak sucks, i lost respeck for him when he lost to barzola, friggin barzola.

He beat Barzola... at least according to the judges. But that 3rd round showed that he should've had the advantage on the feet. His hands are faster and more accurate. He should've been throwing that leg kick to the outside rather than the inside.

I think the problem for him is that he didn't seem to prepare for his opponent at all. Did they watch tape? Did they drill specific skills for matching up with Kennedy? Sure didn't look like it.

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 04:57 PM

Kennedy by Dec works.. Stops the bleeding..

Like BIGDAY said wrestlers do rule in this sport if they don't get knocked out standing before the take downs happens...

**turbozed** · 07-22-17, 05:02 PM

Mental note. NYSAC refs do not stand up fighters even if one is chillin in guard for two minutes without throwing a single punch.

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Mental note. NYSAC refs do not stand up fighters even if one is chillin in guard for two minutes without throwing a single punch.

Looks that way so far...

**Mackballs** · 07-22-17, 05:05 PM

Who we like for the main event?

**spurginobili** · 07-22-17, 05:05 PM

Got under 1.5 next

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 05:07 PM

How bad is grabowski? if you loose to sherman, thats rock bottom!

**brooks85** · 07-22-17, 05:29 PM

who else is parlaying everything with jones next week?

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

How bad is grabowski? if you loose to sherman, thats rock bottom!

Sherman is improving.. Don't sleep on this guy.. Grab was a punching bag that entire fight and couldn't get a take down if his life depended on it..

Grab is suspect though.. Borderline canitis. Agreed BJ...

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

who else is parlaying everything with jones next week?

Betting the house on JJ... I won't be toying around with $50 and $100 bets with that fight... DC is in trouble in the rematch me tinks!!!

**Snowball** · 07-22-17, 05:32 PM

Alex Oliveira VS Ryan LaFlare


	Oliveira		+150

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Alex Oliveira VS Ryan LaFlare


	Oliveira		+150

Laflare has the wrestling.. Just saying... Oli has the striking..

**Shagdogy** · 07-22-17, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Betting the house on JJ... I won't be toying around with $50 and $100 bets with that fight... DC is in trouble in the rematch me tinks!!!

I can't do it. I just don't think we know what we're gonna get with Jones.

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Sherman is improving.. Don't sleep on this guy.. Grab was a punching bag that entire fight and couldn't get a take down if his life depended on it..

Grab is suspect though.. Borderline canitis. Agreed BJ...

Defence is still horrible.

**brooks85** · 07-22-17, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Betting the house on JJ... I won't be toying around with $50 and $100 bets with that fight... DC is in trouble in the rematch me tinks!!!

lets get it, I think jones going to lay a beating on him

**mackave** · 07-22-17, 05:43 PM

bout to fall asleep on this olivera fight

**BIGDAY** · 07-22-17, 05:44 PM

LaFlre so dominate in top possish.

**spurginobili** · 07-22-17, 05:48 PM

Yessir!

**brooks85** · 07-22-17, 05:48 PM

sweeeet

**BIGDAY** · 07-22-17, 05:48 PM

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

**JIBBBY** · 07-22-17, 05:49 PM

Yep, Wrestlers rule but that's what happens when wrestlers can't get the fight to the ground against good strikers.. They get caught standing..

Cowboy Oli with the ko win.. Did have that hedged..

**mackave** · 07-22-17, 05:49 PM

There we go.

**mackave** · 07-22-17, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

Where are your picks pal ?

**Snowball** · 07-22-17, 05:50 PM

Olivera hit enough for me tonight

gl buds

**turbozed** · 07-22-17, 05:50 PM

Wow. What a KO!

Pending

7/22/17 6:30pm Live In-Play Fighting 1601 Alex Oliveira +310* vs Ryan LaFlare

Had a feeling lol. That stops the bleeding for this event

**spurginobili** · 07-22-17, 05:50 PM

Had Oliviera ITD

Pending

7/22/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1605 Oliveira wins inside distance +334* vs Not Oliveira inside distance

Hedged with LaFlare by Dec

Pending

7/22/17 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1611 LaFlare wins by 3 round decision -110* vs Not LaFlare by 3 round decision

Was thinking about the other way around...glad I didn't

**bjpenn85** · 07-22-17, 05:51 PM

Oliveira is still pretty nasty on the feet yes

**rsynweap84** · 07-22-17, 05:52 PM

OMG wtf insurance parlays...first albini tko +520 / vera sub +570 4 leg open parlays...

NOW

x2 Olivera TKO +450 4 leg open parlays...

this is getting interesting...

too drunk to make decisions....