UFC on FOX: Weidman vs. Gastelum (July 22, 2017)

[JIBBBY]

I was joking around a bit but I have to admit that's a pretty enticing bet at +6500. I wonder if NYSAC have their own judges and know how to score a 10-10 round. Although it's possible Villante has a 10-8 first round and then gasses.

I can't remember the last time we've seen a draw? I never bet them personally..

It's a waste of money until one hits, I guess we are due for draw though on one of these cards, it's been a while.. ..

[GoBlue77]

Youre the sbr forums new BIGDAY.

please. i've been crushing it and you've been under that rock of yours coincidentally

heres your BIGDAY play for the card

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma-ufc-betting/3409376-chris-weidman-145-saturday.html#post27098305

[Thor4140]

I don't want to start a new thread but has anyone heard anything about this rumor that Conor got knocked out cold the other day by Brandon Rios in sparring. I can't imagine they would let him still fight if this is true but than again that is a lot of money up for grabs.

[JIBBBY]

I don't want to start a new thread but has anyone heard anything about this rumor that Conor got knocked out cold the other day by Brandon Rios in sparring. I can't imagine they would let him still fight if this is true but than again that is a lot of money up for grabs.

Rumors... No video of it ever happening.. https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/1...oxing-mma-news

[Wohlford]

Rumors... No video of it ever happening.. https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/1...oxing-mma-news

The details in the rumor don't seem to stack up either, eg the guy who supposedly knocked out McG says he's never sparred with McG.

[Sanity Check]

Where ya rafting?

I did it once on a surfing trip down in Costa Rica going down a rain forest river.. We had some time to kill and gave it a go.. The friends with me were experienced rafters and did it before, it was my first time.. We ended up signing up for an advanced Level 5 rafting run and it was very challenging, very intense and nuts..

The raft instructor was yelling High right, high left, for us all to react and quick paddle, you had to be on it and act fast or you all end up slamming into boulders and or hit bad drops, this river was raging fast and rocky... There were 8 of us on this big round heavy duty raft.. Foot hold straps at the bottom of the raft to hold you down.. Everyone on the raft was experienced but again it was my first time white water rafting..

A buddy of mine thought it would be funny and cute while on this Costa Rica surfing trip to bamboozle me.... I said ok book it but make it an easy or medium level rafting run for me please. It's my first time... What do my buddies do, they sign up for the most aggressive rafting trip they offered... I wasn't informed until I got on the raft and strapped in.. I was pissed.. Instructor was saying I should not go.. I was like my friends are dicks but I'm in...

The rafting was very intense, fast, bouncy and about hour long, at the end my back was wrenched but it was fun. There were chill moments where you saw sloths and monkeys in the trees of the rain forrest, very dark in spots because of the tree cover.... Cool stuff and we ended up in some remote village were the villagers lived off the land only, simple and cool people and took us in.. Great times.. Adrenalin rush for sure..

Enjoy buddy... Just thought to share my one and only rafting experience..

I remember it looking alot like this in the picture below, a few more people and just a little bigger thick rounder raft.. Oh and no women only stacked dudes that were very intense..

You must surf a lot of beach breaks.

A lot of the reef breaks I surf aren't that different from rafting with rocks and pieces of reef sticking up all over the place. Rafting might be safer.

I don't want to start a new thread but has anyone heard anything about this rumor that Conor got knocked out cold the other day by Brandon Rios in sparring. I can't imagine they would let him still fight if this is true but than again that is a lot of money up for grabs.

Brandon Rios said he's never even met Conor McGregor.

[JIBBBY]

You must surf a lot of beach breaks.

A lot of the reef breaks I surf aren't that different from rafting with rocks and pieces of reef sticking up all over the place. Rafting might be safer.

I surfed here in Southern California most of my life, some rocky areas but no reefs to cut your feet or get thrashed on... I've surfed Hawaii over the years and never got fully comfortable around thick reefs and coral.. When I forgot to wear booties I'd come out of the ocean with feet bleeding, knees and shins scraped up..

The rafting in Costa Rica was more dangerous, if you paddled the wrong way at the wrong time you could flip the raft, slam the raft and all the people into huge boulders at 20 miles per hour.. If you get thrown from the raft you could become a pin ball against all the bottom rocks and get brutalized... You could die at the advanced levels with the raging fast waters IMO.

Surfing I never had the feeling I was gonna die, more control and I know what I'm doing with surfing.. White water rafting was a different beast for sure..

[Shagdogy]

This card is tough for me to bet.a bunch of favorites I like to win with no value on the line: Burgos, Kelleher, Sherman. Only playable leans I have so far are Bochniak and Anders, both pretty low confidence. Boooooo.

[JIBBBY]

I'm still grid locked on the Main. I think Chris Wiedman is the more skilled fighter but Gas is probably in his MMA prime, on a small win streak.. Tough as nails, stronger mentally and sports the granite chin... Just think this fight could go either way now..

Flip a coin fellas I say.. I'm stuck....

[plekz]

The Weidman that fought Silva and Machida doesn't exist anymore. (plus Weidman gassed out against Machida aswell, caught his 2nd win back late in the third)

[UncleChael]

I'm still grid locked on the Main. I think Chris Wiedman is the more skilled fighter but Gas is probably in his MMA prime, on a small win streak.. Tough as nails, stronger mentally and sports the granite chin... Just think this fight could go either way now..

Flip a coin fellas I say.. I'm stuck....

Always hedge with uncles picks. Weidman is massive. You're on the right side pal.

[JIBBBY]

Always hedge with uncles picks. Weidman is massive. You're on the right side pal.

You could be right on this UNC.. I just really don't trust CW's chin these days especially in a 5 round fight.. I'm on the fence still.. Will be hedging both ways for sure..

[Sanity Check]

Chase Sherman weighed in @ 250.8.

His previous fight he weighed 246. Fight before that was 245.

Sherman took this fight on late notice. Looks like he may not be in prime fighting shape. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference those 4-5 pounds make.

I surfed here in Southern California most of my life, some rocky areas but no reefs to cut your feet or get thrashed on... I've surfed Hawaii over the years and never got fully comfortable around thick reefs and coral.. When I forgot to wear booties I'd come out of the ocean with feet bleeding, knees and shins scraped up..

The rafting in Costa Rica was more dangerous, if you paddled the wrong way at the wrong time you could flip the raft, slam the raft and all the people into huge boulders at 20 miles per hour.. If you get thrown from the raft you could become a pin ball against all the bottom rocks and get brutalized... You could die at the advanced levels with the raging fast waters IMO.

Surfing I never had the feeling I was gonna die, more control and I know what I'm doing with surfing.. White water rafting was a different beast for sure..

Incidentally I'm from hawaii. A lot of places are 6-8+ feet of wave breaking on like 12 inches of water over a reef. There are places with big rocks and coral heads in the water you have to navigate around too. The rafting looks a lot safer to me. But I can't say I've ever gone rafting.

[Shagdogy]

Chase Sherman weighed in @ 250.8.

His previous fight he weighed 246. Fight before that was 245.

Sherman took this fight on late notice. Looks like he may not be in prime fighting shape. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference those 4-5 pounds make.



Incidentally I'm from hawaii. A lot of places are 6-8+ feet of wave breaking on like 12 inches of water over a reef. There are places with big rocks and coral heads in the water you have to navigate around too. The rafting looks a lot safer to me. But I can't say I've ever gone rafting.

I've been to Sandy Beach on Oahu and I remember ambulances lined up just waiting to take people away. Just like you said, 8+ breaking directly onto the beach. I had a blast but it was definitely dangerous.

[firekillex]

nobody talking about Ryan Laflare -110 decision over Alex Oliveria ???

[BIGDAY]

nobody talking about Ryan Laflare -110 decision over Alex Oliveria ???

LaFlare.

Easy.

[turbozed]

Chase Sherman weighed in @ 250.8.

His previous fight he weighed 246. Fight before that was 245.

Sherman took this fight on late notice. Looks like he may not be in prime fighting shape. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference those 4-5 pounds make.



Incidentally I'm from hawaii. A lot of places are 6-8+ feet of wave breaking on like 12 inches of water over a reef. There are places with big rocks and coral heads in the water you have to navigate around too. The rafting looks a lot safer to me. But I can't say I've ever gone rafting.

Yeah Sherman looked ultra soft. He's had cardio issues before. Fast and springy in the 1st round but the drop off is steeeep for him. He'll have to finish Grabowski early. If Grabowski does survive, he might be a good live in-play bet for a late round sub.

[Shagdogy]

Been capping this event all week and I have next to nothing. Gonna make a few small plays here or there. Risk very little on this card. An exercise in discipline for me because I'd be pressing if I put any real confidence behind anything. Gotta just let this card go.

[turbozed]

Been capping this event all week and I have next to nothing. Gonna make a few small plays here or there. Risk very little on this card. An exercise in discipline for me because I'd be pressing if I put any real confidence behind anything. Gotta just let this card go.

No gamble no future.

Just kidding. I also don't have many bets down on this one either. Will still watch and see if there are live betting opportunities. Lot of fighters with small gas tanks in this one. Villante and Sherman are Exhibits A and B.

[Rich Benjamins]

After conducting a bit of research, I think the best bets on the card, without laying too much juice, are Johnson, Kelleher, Sherman, and Kennedy. Followed closely by Gastellum. And the dog pick on the card would be Oliveira. I have a decent sized bet on each of those fighters.

[TPowell]

Liking a quick finish in the Pepey fight

Burgos FASTEST TKO is +525 on a card that I don't see many quick finishes and Pepey is +1200 for FASTEST SUB and +900 in R1

[turbozed]

Liking a quick finish in the Pepey fight

Burgos FASTEST TKO is +525 on a card that I don't see many quick finishes and Pepey is +1200 for FASTEST SUB and +900 in R1

Betting Burgos to win fastest TKO is pretty ballsy considering both Cummins and Grabowski are also fighting on this card. Pepey hasn't been KO'd in 4 years, and has never been TKO'd on his feet. Burgos doesn't seem to follow guys to the ground either.

[UncleChael]

If you have a bet on the Starbucks guy, I feel bad for you, son. Gian Villante Tko +105. 10000x units.

[turbozed]

Villante will have to KO Cummins within a few minutes or he'll be out of gas. Luckily, Cummins' head has some sort of special gravity field that attracts punches from everyone he fights.

[GoBlue77]

Really is crazy to see Weidman, the guy who dethroned Anderson Silva and had a decent title run now the +150 dog against a undersized TUF winner...

Agree... crazy to see Gastelum who beat bums (last 3 fights) favored

Vitor (washed up can)
Kennedy (retired washed up can)
Johnny Cheeseburger Hendricks (nom nom nom)

if you think beating those 3 bums means anything than goof luck

[Shagdogy]

I am super low on confidence going into this card. Watched a ton of fights and I just really don't like the lines... so the result is that I'm on a bunch of plays small that are more like leans than picks I really believe in.

Good -160, 1.6u
Anders -125, 1.25u
LaFlare by decision -110, 1.1u
Almeida +160, .66u
Bochniak +215, .66u

So many fights, but so few good opportunities IMO. Good luck everyone.

[JIBBBY]

Locked and loaded... Going with a bunch of dogs on this card.. I see value and hoping some dogs will bark...

This first fight I'm going with the dog Perez.. I think he's got a shot against Wade and maybe by decision.

$50.00

$135.00

Pending

7/22/17 4:00pm UFC Fighting 2201 Frankie Perez +270* vs Chris Wade

$47.60

$203.30

Pending

7/22/17 4:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2207 Perez wins by 3 round decision +427* vs Not Perez by 3 round decision

UFC Fight Pass Early Prelims



Frankie
Perez
vs
Chris
Wade

UNITED STATES
Country
UNITED STATES

10-3-0
Record
11-3-0

20%
KO/TKO
0%

50%
SUB
36%

30%
DEC
64%

71 in
Height
70 in

155 lbs
Weight
155 lbs

73 in
Reach
70 in

40 in
Leg Reach
40 in

[Shagdogy]

I put Perez in a parlay with Sherman and Weidman at +1100 or so. If Perez wins, I'm hoping Sherman gets it done and then I can hedge out for the final fight.

[JIBBBY]

First half of card and how i'm playing it.. All $50-$100 plays here..

Fight #2 - Burgos ITD/ hedge Pepey sub ins only..

Fight #3 -Timothy Johnson by Dec

Fight #4 - Kelleher Dec

Fight #5 - Kennedy Dec

Fight #6 - Grab ITD/hedge Sherman KO

[JIBBBY]

I put Perez in a parlay with Sherman and Weidman at +1100 or so. If Perez wins, I'm hoping Sherman gets it done and then I can hedge out for the final fight.

Yep this Perez fight should be a close scrap one way or the other, for those odds I had to play Perez.. I think this fight is a coin toss pretty much and could go either way..

[Shagdogy]

Another knock on my stupid book. No props offered for any of the fight pass fights.

[bjpenn85]

Agree... crazy to see Gastelum who beat bums (last 3 fights) favored

Vitor (washed up can)
Kennedy (retired washed up can)
Johnny Cheeseburger Hendricks (nom nom nom)

if you think beating those 3 bums means anything than goof luck

Well, its the way he beats the bums who count. I dont think anybody disagree with those three guys being bums. Especially not you, as you correctly predicted gastelum to win over kennedy at +145.

And, even though he beat those bums, doesnt mean he wont beat chris. Its simply means that he were way better than those guys.

The way gastelum steamrolled those guys were almost pathetic. Its not like he grinded his way to close split dec. He placed pin point accurate punches right on their jaws without breaking a sweat.

But this isnt an easy pick, or a lock at all. But one should favour gastelum on the basis on the last fights imo.

[JIBBBY]

Another knock on my stupid book. No props offered for any of the fight pass fights.

How come you aren't with 5dimes Shag? Anyone betting MMA props should be signed up with 5dimes.. It's a no brainer and the best book out there for MMA betting..

I struggle with prop play on most of my other books also.. Bookmaker, BetDSI, and Bovada have a variety of Props but still not as good as 5dimes..

[Demonata]

Go wade.Lets start this card out right

[Shagdogy]

How come you aren't with 5dimes Shag? Anyone betting MMA props should be signed up with 5dimes.. It's a no brainer and the best book out there for MMA betting..

I struggle with prop play on most of my other books also.. Bookmaker, BetDSI, and Bovada have a variety of Props but still not as good as 5dimes..

The bitcoin... I haven't gotten into that. Also, Since I use a bookie I don't have to tie up any cash to load an account. I like that part.