UFC Fight Night: Chiesa vs. Lee (June 25, 2017)

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  • Shagdogy
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    #141
    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
    BC its tough to call lol...
    Tough to pick a clear winner, sure. But the paths to victory seem decently clear, and both are + money. Means TKO/Ko, Garcia decision. You see any other outcomes likely?
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    • firekillex
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      #142
      garcia has 80% finishes ? he could easily get a finish here lol

      either way im on means tko i think he will get 2/3 round finish once garcia gasses a bit
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      • PaperTrail07
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        #143
        I agree with you ---one thing to note...Garcia was only KO'd by Strickland BC he rolled his ankle....he lost focus after that and was immediately finished....I could see means by decision tho....
        Originally posted by Shagdogy
        Tough to pick a clear winner, sure. But the paths to victory seem decently clear, and both are + money. Means TKO/Ko, Garcia decision. You see any other outcomes likely?
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        • PaperTrail07
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          #144
          just tough to call....could see Garcia winning a round early with a TD then means slowly taking over ...
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          • PaperTrail07
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            #145
            Watch Garcia's ankle around 18:10 ish
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            • PaperTrail07
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              #146
              Means does throw to kill tho....
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              • Shagdogy
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                #147
                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                I agree with you ---one thing to note...Garcia was only KO'd by Strickland BC he rolled his ankle....he lost focus after that and was immediately finished....I could see means by decision tho....
                Yes definitely saw that but he was getting picked apart long before that. Everything Means throws is sharp and painful so if Garcia is stuck on the feet eating strikes from Means it's only a matter of time before he puts him away. Means hurts people.

                Meanwhile, Means has a chin and Garcia has struggled to find success with his power shots against taller, longer fighters. So all that's really left is for him to get top position, and he's not exactly a killer from there. Mostly hangs out in guard, plays it safe with his head buried. Means is good enough to survive even if he can't stuff the takedowns. So Means tko/ko with Garcia decision seems like a deal to me since both props are plus money.

                The most likely outcome to bust that up would be Means decision, but I think if he's good enough at stuffing takedowns he will put Garcia away.
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                • turbozed
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                  #148
                  Johnny Hendricks has missed weight (188 lbs). Some things never change lol

                  OKLAHOMA CITY – MMAjunkie was on scene and reporting live from today's early and official UFC Fight Night 112 fighter weigh-ins, where two fighters, including an ex-champ, came in heavy. The early weigh-ins took place at the UFC host hotel in Oklahoma City, Okla.…
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                  • GoBlue77
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by turbozed
                    Johnny Hendricks has missed weight (188 lbs). Some things never change lol

                    http://mmajunkie.com/2017/06/ufc-fig...ream-10-a-m-et
                    think burger king had a sale this weekend. johnny never had a chance
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                    • firekillex
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by turbozed
                      Johnny Hendricks has missed weight (188 lbs). Some things never change lol

                      http://mmajunkie.com/2017/06/ufc-fig...ream-10-a-m-et
                      Wow...
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                      • firekillex
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                        #151
                        I wonder how much money Hendricks has lost missing weight
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                        • GoBlue77
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                          #152
                          I'm going BIG on Tim Boetsch

                          Was already leaning that way mildly now its a significant play
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                          • Shagdogy
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by GoBlue77
                            I'm going BIG on Tim Boetsch

                            Was already leaning that way mildly now its a significant play
                            Based on Hendrick's last fight with Lombard I felt he would win this fight. Now it's a complete unknown. If Hendricks feels physically OK he's a better fighter. No clue where his mind is at.
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                            • bjpenn85
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by GoBlue77
                              I'm going BIG on Tim Boetsch

                              Was already leaning that way mildly now its a significant play
                              2k on Tim Boetsch?
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                              • GoBlue77
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                2k on Tim Boetsch?
                                lol no never.
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                                • Shagdogy
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                                  #156
                                  I'm sooooooo late with this question, but is Chiesa/Lee a 5 round fight?
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                                  • GoBlue77
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                                    #157
                                    just by going on mood and attitude its NIGHT and day between these two, that isn't everything obviously but you have an underdog with all the motivation and fatboy that missed weight again that isn't on tim's level as far as that goes.
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                                    • Shagdogy
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                                      #158
                                      Seems like Lee's path to victory is to keep the fight standing, but over 5 rounds that's going to be hard to do with a guy who doesn't get tired and who will just run forward through your punches and chase you until he gets you against the cage where he has excellent body lock takedowns. Chiesa is an ugly fighter for sure, but hard to see Lee beating him with a smart, technique based gameplan over 5 whole rounds.

                                      I think this is a five round fight? I'd take Lee in 3rds, but Chiesa in 5rds.
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                                      • GoBlue77
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                        Seems like Lee's path to victory is to keep the fight standing, but over 5 rounds that's going to be hard to do with a guy who doesn't get tired and who will just run forward through your punches and chase you until he gets you against the cage where he has excellent body lock takedowns. Chiesa is an ugly fighter for sure, but hard to see Lee beating him with a smart, technique based gameplan over 5 whole rounds.

                                        I think this is a five round fight? I'd take Lee in 3rds, but Chiesa in 5rds.
                                        i thought only title fights were 5
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                                        • firekillex
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                                          #160
                                          Lol... every main event has been 5 rounds for over a year now
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                                          • Shagdogy
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by firekillex
                                            Lol... every main event has been 5 rounds for over a year now
                                            They came out and said that a long while back and then immediately didn't follow through. All title fights are 5, obviously, but the main events have been some 3, some 5, with no real rhyme or reason.
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                                            • UncleChael
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                                              #162
                                              Chiesa's going to fukk him up.
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                                              • firekillex
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                                                #163
                                                Literally cannot remember the last main event that wasn't 5 rounds
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                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                  #164
                                                  LOL I like Hendricks missed weight......Boetsch was planning to be the bigger buy and push him around...nice work JH lol..
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                                                  • firekillex
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                                                    #165
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                                                    • bjpenn85
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                      lol no never.
                                                      Big have to be more than youre usual stake which is 2K. 4K then?
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                                                      • mdunlap3
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                                                        #167
                                                        Unreal how unprofessional Hendricks has become...the guy is CLEARLY checked out.
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                                                        • mdunlap3
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by NUTSonYAchin
                                                          They should put Penn vs Siver on comedy central. 2 washed up cans even though one is somehow the goat LW.
                                                          BJ i remember best as a WW.
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                                                          • NUTSonYAchin
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                            lol no never.
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                                                            • Ty$
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                                                              #170
                                                              Chiesa by RNC.. Martin by DEC... BJ by RNC
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                                                              • UncleChael
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                                                                #171
                                                                14 months since Chiesa last fight? I think he's still going to fukk him up
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                                                                • NUTSonYAchin
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mkph7tlmM84" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    OK this next up today!!!! Let's get this fellas!!!
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      nice to have an event on Sundays every once in awhile...

                                                                      I'd love to see Chiesa submit that clown Lee and shut his ass up...not going to bet on Chiesa but rooting for him..

                                                                      killex, paper, jibby and hugo give me your best picks on the card
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                                                                      • mdunlap3
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Not a lot of good fights to bet on here IMO, but should be nice card to watch and enjoy. With HUGO and JIBBS on Lee, think he could be the next big thing. Kind of like Boetsch at + money straight or KO prop, haven't pulled the trigger yet. Johny missed weight AGAIN, hard to not read into the lack of professionalism as pure laziness and therefore a lack of preparation. Would be interested in seeing the stats on how favorites perform after missing weight like that? Any insight OGs?
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