9 straight underdogs...
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testosterone-deprived Silva making two fellow "way over the hill HW's" (Arlovski, then Mir) look good...adding several paydays to their kids' pension plans...Last edited by fitguy67; 02-23-15, 01:22 PM.Comment -
lol this stuff might be rigged...
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Manifest I thought correct would of had a Mir Johnson parlay. Heavyweight division is a lil weak confident Mir is right up there top 3 imo.Comment -
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How many bankrolls did Ron Paul lose tonight?
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no...you're talking about anabolic steroids,,,the true PEDrug...TRT is testosterone (the natural hormone responsible for the exact opposite effect to what you joke about) REPLACEMENT THERAPY...it should be monitored and managed, even encouraged for the older guyz...when BigFoot or Vitor or Chael were on TRT it didn't give them high-ER levels of testosterone than their younger opponents...just brought their dwindling levels up to par with the typical late-20's guys they were facing...
TRT is NOT PED...it is PFL (playing-field leveling...but not leveling to opponent's injections of drugs in abnormal amounts...the slippery-slope of PED's...no, TRT is bringing older-athelete's natural male-hormone levels into line with their typical younger opponents)...look at BF vs. Hunt...then just months later vs. Arlovski/MIr....an elite athelete to an old man...
testosterone REPLACEMENT themapy should be allowed and monitored...anabolic steroids should be banned and penalizedLast edited by fitguy67; 02-22-15, 11:29 PM.Comment -
On paper I was 3-8 picking. Jorge, De la Torre and Johnson. I would have straight bet them all besides Alcantara and Khabilov. Probably put those two in a parlay together. This one would have hurt bad.
Glad to see others jumped on the dog bandwagon late. What an unreal night.Comment -
Jibby how much you hit on your long shot parlayComment -
3 out of 11 I hit... A horrible showing...
294165657 2/21/15 11:33pm -$5.00 $5.00 1 Wager(s) Placed 294165657-1 $5.00 $1,109.33 Loss 11 Team Parlay Loss 2/22/15 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1001 Antonio Silva/Frank Mir Over 1½ -135* Loss 2/22/15 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1101 Edson Barboza/Michael Johnson Under 2½ -105* Loss 2/22/15 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Cezar Ferreira -340* <small>vs</small> Sam Alvey Loss 2/22/15 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Rustam Khabilov -550* <small>vs</small> Adriano Martins Loss 2/22/15 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1401 Frankie Saenz/Iuri Alcantara Under 2½ -145* Loss 2/22/15 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Sean Strickland -190* <small>vs</small> Santiago Ponzinibbio Loss 2/22/15 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Jessica Andrade -250* <small>vs</small> Marion Reneau Win 2/22/15 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Matt Dwyer/William Macario Under 1½ -110* Loss 2/22/15 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1801 Tiago Trator -220* <small>vs</small> Mike de la Torre Win 2/22/15 5:30pm UFC Fighting 2001 Douglas Silva de Andrade +200* <small>vs</small> Cody Gibson Win 2/22/15 5:00pm UFC Figh
I recognized the dog streak after 4 hits and cleaned up in the second half of the card with all the dog straight win bets.. Was a good night after all was said and done with the Mir and Johnson wins.. My smart plays did not land tonight though.. I got lucky recognizing the dog streak and started backing up a few of my big bets as the night went on... I normally don't do that..Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-15, 12:57 AM.Comment -
easy pal...all those guyz you hang out with now like to pretend--when it suits them-- that they're offended by homophobic language like that!
i've never had a problem with you sykes...of course i knew you were just slingin' a line for effect (the way SBR handles the terrible "t" word never ceases to amuse) : but i noticed it was driven by a very very common "lumping together" of TRT and PED's, two very different things--got me thinking enough about the distinction to try to lay it out in technicolor...as much for myself as anyone...
there was nothing "gay" nor straight in my reply--altho', i should have started off by acknowledging your joke, before using it to segue into a minor thesis on--you must admit-- a VERY timely topic in our sport (something that turned the last two of Antonio Silva's fights into farces)
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I always remember you as one of the more helpful people over at Hougigo's old boxing thread...hope you don't let the new "company you keep" turn you into a full-on self-absorbed rude prikk...you don't REALLY wanna end up as happy as Mr. Lonely Valentine and the Scandinavian Lover of Man-parts, do you? Cuz lashing out at someone who has no beef with you (aka. me) gets you started on that path, pal.
There are lots of good people at sbr (present company included
)...being rude to them unnecessarily may score points with your douchebag "handlers" over there...but just makes you look like a twat over here.
I've never once slagged you...I'll pretend the same is true in the other direction...and we 100% "right as rain" (remember that from "Boardwalk Empire", lol)...but if you continue the unprovoked snottiness you get "shrouded" by me...just like MyrtleDipschitz and all her pathetic "too hip for SBR" clones. Meaning that I'll never address you directly as a human being again (ie. in the 2nd person, in "lawyer speak")...
tit (lol...hey, doesn't do it anymore)...for tat, capiche?Last edited by fitguy67; 02-23-15, 04:28 AM.Comment -
listen to Frank Mir's eloquently-presented and fascinating take on the what, why, and how of his re-birth as a fighter...it's the very first question taken from the media so won't have to wait too long...one of the most memorable bits from any of these post-event scrums, usually characterized by dumb questions and trite answers
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also note the Zuffa 100% "gag" on any questions regarding the effect (on BigFoot especially) of being forced off TRT...i can't believe that no-one in that room even thought to ask (if anyone did dare to ask...they surely were told they'd be cut off all access going forward...damn, plausible conspiracy theories are so much fun--and so easy--to spin!)
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Uncommon "Common Sense" about TRT vs. PED's in a nutshell
*TRT is not a form of PED-use
*PED-use should be banned and penalized
*TRT should be allowed (even encouraged for aging assets) but monitored and regulated across the board so the playing field (that disadvantages older fighters) is levelledLast edited by fitguy67; 02-23-15, 01:58 PM.Comment -
a concise statement that speaks to the potential of MMA-betting...to create both agony and ecstasy/pain and pleasure
btw: women's tennis will give it a run for the money in this department...where you swear for entire tournaments that the books are playing a practical joke and reversing the plus and minus signs at random, just to drive bettors nutsLast edited by fitguy67; 02-23-15, 05:10 AM.Comment -
the books weren't off last night nearly as much as the bettors were.Comment -
MMA is the toughest sport to bet on because one punch from the other fighter can change a smart bet into a losing bet.. That's why I like betting on the sport of MMA because it's a monster challenge to consistently win...
There is usually a fight or two on a card that is no brainer though... This card didn't have that in my opinion for a straight plays... The Drywer/Macario - "fight won't go the distance" prop was the only bet on the card that I thought was a no brainer and a lock. I even had my doubts about the Mir straight win in the back of my mind prior to the fight starting..
Funky night in Brazil..
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Huh so that Was real..----What a Fuckkn Card---WhiFffff...Comment -
Woaw, in all of the 7 years i have been betting on MMA, this is the most insane card in terms of outcomes i have ever seen. Sam Alvey KO and early line movement on khabilov saved the night( which made me not bet on him). I really felt like hanging up the gloves yesterday, THAT WAS BRUTAL. 9 out of 11 underdogs, that is new ufc/MMA/boxing record ever?Comment -
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It appears Vegas took a hit as more people fun bet dog parlays rather than making big $$ fav parlays...Comment -
On the flipside, did anyone expect silva to brutalize mir? Who thought that ferreiras chin was good? Macarion was on a loosing streak coming into the fight with daywer, how much do really wager on that idiot? Trator, how low is his hands in ring, almost as low as when he walks around the park doing nothing...Many of the outcomes isnt a huge surprise, but that they all occur on the same card..Mamma miaComment -
It's NOT just a case of simply counting the number of minimum-definition dogs....(anything with a "plus sign" in the closing price).. their magnitude (how high the number after the plus sign was) must be taken into account
several months ago, as people rightly pointed out, we did have a similar NUMBER of dog-ML's cashing...what made last night so special was the average price tag on the 9 dogs that hit...since cumulative probabilities (and parlay payouts) are multiplicative...the fact that the average price last night was markedly higher than when roughly the same NUMBER of dogs hit a while back (if only due to Saenz, which will easily be a "top ten of 2015" dog-hit, and another handful of fat-payout specials like Martins and Dwyer...etc.) the multiplicative raw "unlikelihood" of last night
is at another level...
i'll actually work up the numbers to compare the last two remarkably dog-heavy days, but my spidey sense tells me that when prices/implied-probabilities are taken into account for each dog-hit (and not just the simple counting of those hits)...last night will turn out to be an EXTRA-special case...
it's not just lots of lighting strikes...but lots of rather rare (hard to form meteorologically) lightning bolts striking that made last night a super-storm, in my estimation
the "hyperbole police" anxious to pour cold water on my superlatives will have to wait...or do the math themselves...note: for those so inclined, to really handle the "whole card": the return of a complete round-robin of 2-leggers, each risking a unit is the way to go (rather than that mythical single multi-leg parlay that is ubiquitously tweeted about in a most sensational fashion)...doing it with a full set of all possible 2-leg parlays will allow us to truly compare full card with full card (and not merely consecutive or "cherry picked" stretches of a card) on the basis of the dollar-payouts related to the overall distribution of each actual full-card's "dog-richness"Last edited by fitguy67; 02-23-15, 06:01 PM.Comment
Had to take Mir big for the straight win when those odds got really favorable... Next event you get it Karmaphobia...
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