UFC 156: Aldo Vs Edgar (Feb 02. 2013)

[DeFactoCrippler]

Holy fock threads about streams already starting

inb4 this thread gets flooded with ghosts asking for streams when everyone just says firstrow every single focking time

inb4 ghost shills cant figure out where the prop betting section is on 5crimes just so the sbr sofware can put an affiliate link in the sportsbook title when they ask the question

inbt ghosts

[MMAbetMASTA]

tibau is slow and plodding, and not exactly known for his ability to take down and beat on you. he is pretty good in the clinch. I think dunham can win a decision by pitty pattying his way to victory, and I think that is what is going to go down.

He has the best takedown % (its like 85% or something) in the division and has taken down every opponent he's faced outside of the russian (who tibau got robbed against imo). He also has a solid 65 % tdd - his wrestling and top control is prob the most underrated in the divison. He's fought some legit grapplers and outside of shooting in and getting sucked into a guilotine via dumb mistake against joe daddy, I can see him controlling evan on the ground and fending off subs. He fought some pretty solid sub grappelrs. and when looking at his last 3 losses, they were all close very debatle fights. Personally I can't see how any sane person scored the guillard fight anything other than 29-28 tibau, rusky fight was disgusting, and even against Jim miller it was tooth and nail and not what I'd call a clear UD. Considering dunham was taking down more than once against lentz, aurelio, escudero and sherk, I have a hard time imagining tibau not getting him down a couple times. However, if tibua doesn't plan to use a heavy wrestling approach and plans to stand and bang, I agree this fight is more up in the air.

I agree he's slow, but his striking fundamentals are legit and I wouldn't say dunham has an advantage there. I can't call the stand up with confidence, and dunham can dance around and loop around the ring with strikes too quick for tibau, but I'm not sold on that and can't say either guy has the edge there (I do give tibau a power / ko edge).

Dunham is gonna have to excute a pretty incredible gameplan to win - he's gonna have to fend off tds, reverse clinches against the most massive lw in the divison, and outstrike a guy who I don't think anyone can say with certainty is worse than dunham at striking.

I'm not going big on tibau but I like the cheap price and will be taking him. Hopefully no one is going big on either guy cause its a tough nut to crack.

Tibau is the only fav odds guy I like on the card, everythign else is too pricey for me.

[MD]

He has the best takedown % (its like 85% or something) in the division and has taken down every opponent he's faced outside of the russian (who tibau got robbed against imo). He also has a solid 65 % tdd - his wrestling and top control is prob the most underrated in the divison. He's fought some legit grapplers and outside of shooting in and getting sucked into a guilotine via dumb mistake against joe daddy, I can see him controlling evan on the ground and fending off subs. He fought some pretty solid sub grappelrs. and when looking at his last 3 losses, they were all close very debatle fights. Personally I can't see how any sane person scored the guillard fight anything other than 29-28 tibau, rusky fight was disgusting, and even against Jim miller it was tooth and nail and not what I'd call a clear UD. Considering dunham was taking down more than once against lentz, aurelio, escudero and sherk, I have a hard time imagining tibau not getting him down a couple times. However, if tibua doesn't plan to use a heavy wrestling approach and plans to stand and bang, I agree this fight is more up in the air.

I agree he's slow, but his striking fundamentals are legit and I wouldn't say dunham has an advantage there. I can't call the stand up with confidence, and dunham can dance around and loop around the ring with strikes too quick for tibau, but I'm not sold on that and can't say either guy has the edge there (I do give tibau a power / ko edge).

Dunham is gonna have to excute a pretty incredible gameplan to win - he's gonna have to fend off tds, reverse clinches against the most massive lw in the divison, and outstrike a guy who I don't think anyone can say with certainty is worse than dunham at striking.

I'm not going big on tibau but I like the cheap price and will be taking him. Hopefully no one is going big on either guy cause its a tough nut to crack.

It is indeed a tough fight to dissect. I think you're underestimating Dunham's stand up though. His takedown defence isn't great, either, but he's quick enough to avoid the clinch and, most importantly, he's incredibly hard to hold down. He's fantastic at getting to his feet when taken down. He's the better striker by a reasonably wide margin, although you may see Tibau connect somewhat frequently due to Dunham's questionable striking defence. If someone gets KO'd, though, expect it to be Dunham KOing Tibau with a headkick.

[Educ8d Degener8]

I hope we get some of this on the prelim telecast...

[Vaughany]

lol

[DeFactoCrippler]

I hope we get some of this on the prelim telecast...

Who is that old lady next to Michelle Obama?

is that her mom or something?

[Educ8d Degener8]

I wish Dana would make Momma Woodley a guest ring girl for an event.

[MMAbetMASTA]

It is indeed a tough fight to dissect. I think you're underestimating Dunham's stand up though. His takedown defence isn't great, either, but he's quick enough to avoid the clinch and, most importantly, he's incredibly hard to hold down. He's fantastic at getting to his feet when taken down. He's the better striker by a reasonably wide margin, although you may see Tibau connect somewhat frequently due to Dunham's questionable striking defence. If someone gets KO'd, though, expect it to be Dunham KOing Tibau with a headkick.

good points, when evan does get taken down he gets up rather quickly as you said, although I'd say tibau has better top control than prob anyone dunham has faced. Yet you could argue evan is one of the better scramblers tibau has faced so tibau could have trouble keeping him there if he does get him down. I don't know about him having the striking advantage by a wide margin, but then again that is the toughest area of the fight for me to breakdown. Tibau's striking looked real good against rda (another damn close fight) who has developed into what is imo the best darkhorse in the division (stylistically I think RDA is bendo's biggest challenge right now and the way he is evolving is a stylistic nightmare for most fighters in general...).

If tibau gets slow in the latrer rounds, which has happened, or completely gets sucked into a brawl I guess I could give the edge to dunham for his quickness and high volume of punches. Hoping tibau is planning to clinch and wrastle a lot in this fight, will not be happy if this is primarily a stand up match.

If you're on dunham I like the decision prop (I like the deicison prop for both guys, but unfortunately I don't have those options with my local book).

[MMAbetMASTA]

I still thnk its gonna be lopsided win for shad, but man, nog looked shredded at the weigh ins...

He really looks like he's in the best shape of his life.

Out of every dog I'll be rooting for the nog upset most, love lil nog and think he doesn't get enough credit.

Don't think its gonna happen, but nog winning or the reem hype train getting derailed would really make my day

[MMAbetMASTA]

Tibau getting married tonight?!?!?!????

Just saw this on SD forum http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/sho...5#post79222225

Don't know if its true...

IMO, not the best news for us tibau backers, not a smart move me thinks...........

[MMAbetMASTA]

Here we go! This first one should be fun, edwin is durable as hell and could make things interesting if he survives the 1st.

[Vaughany]

damn needed Rivera to stay on top their and steal the round

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

I thought Rivera was going to be much better on the feet, but he's getting the worst of it

[Imsmarterthanu]

badass fight so far

[Vaughany]

hmm never know with judges. 1 or 2 might of given tht round to Rivera

[Libert1ne]

Why was this line so out of whack? Hahaha.

[Vaughany]

shiiit

[Vaughany]

needs to pour it on now

[Libert1ne]

THat is the sight of a -300 undeserving favourite getting done...

[Libert1ne]

He does Vaughany. Agree.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

yeaa, nice come back

[GunShard]

Public money moved on Edgar. Aldo bettors should of waited to bet now.

[Libert1ne]

Wow.

[Vaughany]

fuuuuuuuuck

[Libert1ne]

Nice comeback

[Vaughany]

FOTN is my only hope but Dana will give it to a fight on main card

[MMAbetMASTA]

holy sheeeiiit, crazy fight... thought edwin was looking good for the upset, that 2nd rnd was up for grabs until that end flurry. Great finishing instincts for cisco,

figueroa one tough guy he ate some clean BIG punches.

Excellent first match

[Vaughany]

Edgar is not a "kid" Rogan! He's like 30 or something!

[DeFactoCrippler]

Edgar is not a "kid" Rogan! He's like 30 or something!

anyone under 5 foot 8 is considered to be a "kid" or "boy".

[Beelzebubzy]

IF I knew Kim Winslow was reffing I would have put money on a bad stoppage

[Vaughany]

anyone under 5 foot 8 is considered to be a "kid" or "boy".

ha even if in their 80s?

[Vaughany]

lol the reason Camus is puttin his hands on the mat is because Kimura is locking on to his hands everytime Camus put his hands near his face!

[Beelzebubzy]

stupid Zuckerberg page isnt working for me

How did Rivera look?

[DeFactoCrippler]

what a shit fight

lol at rogan jerking off tae kwon doe

have seen tae kwon doe gooks

get starched in the streets

[MD]

V, what sites have live betting for MMA these days?