UFC 156: Aldo Vs Edgar (Feb 02. 2013)

**Rubber Guard** · 01-31-13, 03:17 PM

Love the +215 FOTN. Sure Aldo could KO him quick. But if he doesn't it is a shoe in. 95%er

Maia by sub +405. I mean I don't see him winning many other ways. Maybe a shotty dec. in a terrible striking exchange. But if he wins it is by sub again 95% of the time. +405 it is.

**Rubber Guard** · 01-31-13, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

Volkmann wins by submission* +365

Volkmann said he predicts sub in the 1st on Helwani's show.

**PunisherIND** · 01-31-13, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Love the +215 FOTN. Sure Aldo could KO him quick. But if he doesn't it is a shoe in. 95%er

Maia by sub +405. I mean I don't see him winning many other ways. Maybe a shotty dec. in a terrible striking exchange. But if he wins it is by sub again 95% of the time. +405 it is.

lol. i think theres value in that maia by sub line, but im banking on fitch getting the decision so i didnt play it. hope i dont regret it.

**PunisherIND** · 01-31-13, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Volkmann said he predicts sub in the 1st on Helwani's show.

nice, lets get it done christmas!

**JKD** · 01-31-13, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

Volkmann wins by submission* +365

Nice. I'll load up on that line if it's released over here,

**Dwil125** · 01-31-13, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Love the +215 FOTN. Sure Aldo could KO him quick. But if he doesn't it is a shoe in. 95%er

Maia by sub +405. I mean I don't see him winning many other ways. Maybe a shotty dec. in a terrible striking exchange. But if he wins it is by sub again 95% of the time. +405 it is.

The only other fight that I think has a chance of it is Creepy/Benavidez

**Thor4140** · 01-31-13, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Dana white's thoughts on Steve Mazzagatti reffing the Aldo/Edgar main event

"I could go off for 45 minutes on officiating over [in Nevada]. Steve Mazzagatti is the ref reffing the Jose Aldo Vs Frankie Edgar superfight. What more can I do? Mazzagatti is reffing the superfight. What more needs to be said than that?... I can't do anything. As a promoter, I can't do anything. The fighters can. The fighters can say, ‘Oh my God.' They can say, ‘I don't want him,' and they gotta go in and give good cause on why they don't want him....I can tell you this, if I was a fighter, the last thing I would want to see when I got in the cage is Mazzagatti. That's the last thing I would want to see."

i think he is a non factor in this fight. Now if one of them was a wrestler that likes to hold ya down then u don't want this fuk in there cause he never breaks ya up and u can get belly fuked for five minutes. He did that Congo against Jordan fight where they laid on the fence for five minutes and this prick Mazzagatti wouldn't pull them off the fence. You bet St Pierre u want him to ref cause George doesn't have to do anything but take ya down and you win your bet lol. Great ref for a boring fight. Frankie doesn't try to lay and pray ya and neither does Aldo.

**Thor4140** · 01-31-13, 07:41 PM

i like these ads that say how Fitch has the best JU jitz defense in MMA. He is something like 25 for 25 getting out of holds. Wouldn't St Pierre be a tad better or Jon Jones or A Silva? Three guys who never get caught in the hold to begin with? Well Jones did one time but that is 24 less times than Fitch.

**JKD** · 01-31-13, 07:45 PM

Or Ebersole. That guy's a freak.

**hobbesITD** · 01-31-13, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

i like these ads that say how Fitch has the best JU jitz defense in MMA. He is something like 25 for 25 getting out of holds. Wouldn't St Pierre be a tad better or Jon Jones or A Silva? Three guys who never get caught in the hold to begin with? Well Jones did one time but that is 24 less times than Fitch.

GSP's been arm-barred and Silva's been heel-hooked. Fitch regularly gives up his back just so he can get back to top position. It's uncanny how hard he is to sub.

**rocky16** · 01-31-13, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by JKD

Or Ebersole. That guy's a freak.

Bendo too.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by GunShard

Lots of live dogs on this fight card.

agree, having a hard time deciding which ones I like most...

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

This event imo betting doesn't really make sense the matchups are really neck and neck in a lot of the fights and the odds aren't worth laying the juice on.

I agree lots of matches should be closer to evens..therefore lots of dogs with value son!

But then again its how you look at it I guess, there was a recent card where it seemed almost every match up had tasty live dogs but only 2 came through on the whole card.

**Sacrelicious** · 01-31-13, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

agree, having a hard time deciding which ones I like most...

Creepy.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Green is an atrocious play, you'd be better off blowing your money on Bigfoot, and thats saying a LOT.

I'm avoiding Woodley/Hieron, and most of the undercard.

If green can stuff volkman, he will seriously out gun volkman on the feet imo...

But considering green was taken down a few times by JZ in a recent match, a much smaller and less skilled takedown artist imo, its hard to imagine him not getting taken down. Volkman has taken down and grinded on some legit mma wrestlers, some who i think are better wrasslers than green. Green did show good tdd against ricehouse tho who's a legit wrestler.

But at -350 that is crazy juice to pay when you're basically hoping volkman can td green with consistency.. if he can't get that td with consistency or get a quick sub, green could very well get a decision doing more damage on the feet. I'm thinking green has the value here. I was hopling volkman would be much cheaper.

Bigfoot is also live especially if he survives the 1st round imo. Reem looked horrible in his one fight against a legit hw in werdum.. outside of brock and werdum, reem has arguably been on a hw can crushing spree. Even in K1 he slows down quick if he doesn't put his man away asap. Bigfoot has better cardio imo and if his chin holds up through the first and reem doesn't conserve himself, I think we'll see an upset and a deserving end to the reem hype train. I'd be playing bigfoot live if I had the options..

Agree with hieron / woodly, real tough to breakdown and I honestly can't call that one for shit, so I'm over it.

**Sacrelicious** · 01-31-13, 09:57 PM

Its crazy juice on Volkmann, sure, I'm using him in some parlays and got a bit of change, though nothing serious.

That, however, does not change the fact that the play on Green is throwing your money away. If anything, just avoid the fight.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 01-31-13, 09:59 PM

Greetings MMAbetMASTA. I got Edgar at plus 200 and Maia at plus 175. I believe Hieron at plus 130 is worthy of consideration. Any picks for tonights Bellator and tomorrows Felix Sturm fight in Germany?

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Creepy.

He's on my dog list, but towards the bottom of it. Will still prob put a sprinkle, but the GF thing is tripping me out...

From the little I know, ian seems like an emotional guy.

He was with that chick for a long time and he was always expressing how madly in love he is with her on his facebook. Not that that facboook drama means anything, but I wouldn't take that breakup with the girl too lightly, that can ruin a man's emotion / mental state and who knows if he's hiding it or just trying not to show it. He was already an emotional rollercoaster tearing up dana point before he got his head and body str8 and moved to Flyweight, but who knows where he is at right now.

YOu never know tho, perhaps this mama drama could light a fire under his ass and give him some extra determination and focus.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Greetings MMAbetMASTA. I got Edgar at plus 200 and Maia at plus 175. I believe Hieron at plus 130 is worthy of consideration. Any picks for tonights Bellator and tomorrows Felix Sturm fight in Germany?

Na man sorry I'm on tirloni small tonight but not what I'd call a serious play.

Edgar is legit against anyone so there's always value imo at dog odds with him, I'll be making play on him too.

You should read through this forum thread, lots of good users have already given their opinions on those matches, I'm sure it will help you out.

GL man.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-31-13, 10:08 PM

too bad your boy ron paul didn't come through... I think he was one of the few candidates who had a realistic understanding of the US in today's world. No one took the old man seriously and wrote his ideas off

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 01-31-13, 10:14 PM

Not touching Ian's fight. Remember both Couture and Dos Santos lost during rough break ups.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 01-31-13, 10:27 PM

I'm staying away from Bellator tonight. I was just curious about your picks though. Tirloni has a tough fight against Brooks. I seen Brooks' last fight against Kitaoka in Japan. I'll be pulling for you though. I hope Tirloni wins. In regards to Ron Paul, I think more and more people are tired of both the Democrat and Republican parties. Ron Paul ran as a Republican but he is really a Libertarian/Populist. Take care and bye for now.

**Mercersux** · 01-31-13, 10:32 PM

UFC 156 staredowns

**Imsmarterthanu** · 01-31-13, 11:31 PM

Frankie looked a little scared aldo is a killer there is nothing behind those eyes just dark empty holes, frankie theres emotion a slight fear / tension.

Bigfoot looked a little nervous after Overeem said he was gonna destroy him, i think silva is disgusted with him i think he's irritated by him, i think he's going to make a mistake.

**Sacrelicious** · 01-31-13, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu

Bigfoot looked a little nervous after Overeem said he was gonna destroy him, i think silva is disgusted with him i think he's irritated by him, i think he's going to make a mistake.

^ This.

**nlin** · 02-01-13, 12:04 AM

JB is +220 right now at 5d reduced

Straight wager 161048941-1 posted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:03AM was deleted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:09AM. Fighting - 1401 Joseph Benavidez +220 for Game Risking $20.00 to win $44.00 Reason: Clear line error, price should have been -240 Contact customer support if you need further clarification regarding this deleted ticket.

Guess i shoudln't have been too excited...

**PunisherIND** · 02-01-13, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by nlin

JB is +220 right now at 5d reduced

Straight wager 161048941-1 posted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:03AM was deleted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:09AM. Fighting - 1401 Joseph Benavidez +220 for Game Risking $20.00 to win $44.00 Reason: Clear line error, price should have been -240 Contact customer support if you need further clarification regarding this deleted ticket.

Guess i shoudln't have been too excited...

lol almost as good as this one

Any other bout is Fight of the Night +1375 vs. Figueroa/Rivera award winner

**sideloaded** · 02-01-13, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by nlin

JB is +220 right now at 5d reduced

Straight wager 161048941-1 posted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:03AM was deleted on Friday, Feb 1 2013 12:09AM. Fighting - 1401 Joseph Benavidez +220 for Game Risking $20.00 to win $44.00 Reason: Clear line error, price should have been -240 Contact customer support if you need further clarification regarding this deleted ticket.

Guess i shoudln't have been too excited...

please dont bet clear line errors. They will label you a shot taker and close your account. Or worse freeroll you. It does no good to do this.

**PunisherIND** · 02-01-13, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by sideloaded

please dont bet clear line errors. They will label you a shot taker and close your account. Or worse freeroll you. It does no good to do this.

the problem is the "not so clear" line errors. hard to resist those.

**The iron sheik** · 02-01-13, 12:19 PM

Fitch talking about purposefully giving positions makes me poo my pants

**Dwil125** · 02-01-13, 12:53 PM

Overeem and not noguiera by decision are going to complete multiple parlays for me, should I hedge with Bigfoot kotn +1500?

**Crassus** · 02-01-13, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

That, however, does not change the fact that the play on Green is throwing your money away. If anything, just avoid the fight.

Green did KO Krazy Horse with like a year of experience.

**DirtyX** · 02-01-13, 03:40 PM

GL Gents. Imo, Aldo is a lock if there ever was such a thing in MMA. You should be pounding Aldo at -220, not Fitch at -200....

Ticket#:85533471 Feb 02 10:15 PM	INTERNET / -1	Jan 29 11:35 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24113] D MAJA +145 (D MAJA vrs J FITCH)	$69 /$100
Ticket#:85687903 Feb 02 11:00 PM	INTERNET / -1	Feb 01 03:26 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24102] J ALDO -220 (F EDGAR vrs J ALDO)	$220 /$100

**Grabaka** · 02-01-13, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

GL Gents. Imo, Aldo is a lock if there ever was such a thing in MMA. You should be pounding Aldo at -220, not Fitch at -200....

Ticket#:85533471 Feb 02 10:15 PM	INTERNET / -1	Jan 29 11:35 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24113] D MAJA +145 (D MAJA vrs J FITCH)	$69 /$100
Ticket#:85687903 Feb 02 11:00 PM	INTERNET / -1	Feb 01 03:26 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24102] J ALDO -220 (F EDGAR vrs J ALDO)	$220 /$100

Not sold

**DirtyX** · 02-01-13, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Not sold

I can't knock you for playing Edgar around +200, but I think Aldo steam rolls Frankie here. If you honestly see Frankie winning this fight amigo, I would love to hear your thoughts of how the fight will go down....

I personally think Aldo is just simply too fast and too skilled. Leg kicks will be key here, and I don't see Frankie avoiding them throughout the duration of a five rounder.. Frankie's boxing and footwork are his strengths and those will be nulified once Aldo starts kicking the shit outta Edgars knobby knees... Aldo ITD / TKO round 2 or 3 is what I predict. Wouldn't be surprised to see Aldo finish him early in the first either. Aldo will make this look easy, watch it happen.