Not really, Garcia/Holloway will probably go distance but I'll wait and see if it improves from -170
MJ vs MJ going distance at +115 may be worth a play as well
MJ vs MJ going distance at +115 may be worth a play as well
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In Las Vegas cornering Jim Miller for UFC 155. Jim has to lose 20 pounds by tomorrow. Maybe David Copperfield can help them disappear... - Martin RooneyComment -
Cariaso now at +160... yes please, I'll take a gamble on that great value over a guy with a lot of hype but lackluster performances in wins over cans (minus moraga's last win, which was indeed brutal and impressive... but grinding decisions over no namers raises questions for me...).
Anyone on moraga? Why you like him over such a well rounded guy in cariaso??
I'll be honest I don't know much about moraga and while I've researched the fight its been hard to find info on him... But cariaso as a decent dog against a guy who has beaten virtually no one and from some footage I've seen isn't too impressive over cans is head scratching to me. From what I've learned I'd cap cariaso at evens if not slightly favored, so +160 is tasty and seems like a gift, but also puzzling to me.. what am I missing here moraga backers???Comment -
Gaberz...check in pal? Have you recouped your losses from the bouncy castles? Not sure if they are a popular purchase at Christmas time
Major lulz from this tweet by Gaberz!....
"I left milk and cookies out for Santa before going to bed last night. He didn't touch them, but he did leave a note calling me a f*g*ot."Comment -
yea I here you V... Moraga is the only D1 / high level collegiate wrestler cariaso has faced, so I guess people think he can grind it out.. But while cariaso seems to get tripped down fairly easily, he has some good scrambling ability and can threaten off his back. I can def see moraga grinding it for 3 rounds, but he did so and dindn't look good doing it against some cans he couldn't finish. If cariaso can stuff him I obviously give him a clear stand up advantage and coupled with his scrambling / grappling off his back I think he should make this competitive. Got him small at +150, might double up depending on what I read and research over the next day.Comment -
And is moraga that much bigger at flyweight? I know cariaso was a small bw, but was moraga a big bw?Comment -
tempted to pay the -350 on holloway as an auto fade against garcia, surprised they didn't put that line at -1000 lol...Comment -
where do you guys see Jmiller's line closing at?? You think he'll get to -200 or better?Comment -
Possibly -175 to -200 range. 10 out of his last 12 fights he's ended up at a better line by fight time than the opening line...for instance opened at -200 against Guillard and could get him at -145 by fight time. Against Olivera he opened at -110 and ended up +145; against Tibau he opened -260 and ended up -120; against Bocek from -430 to -320, against Danzig -215 to -159, against Maynard +137 to +175, against Wiman -115 to -105. Only the Shalorus and Ludwig fights were where his lines got worse by fight time.
So that history combined with fact he is coming off a loss and Lauzon is coming off an impressive win makes me think that Miller's line can only get betterComment -
Dana white claims marihuana consumption makes random drug testing difficult;
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when was the last time garcia legitimately won a fight?...i think it was in 2008 vs a faded jens pulver..it was also his last k.o.......by all accounts,he lost to massouh/roop/jung and phan,winning via bogus split decision or drawing.....that fight he had with huerta was the best thing that ever happened to garcia...or maybe the worst,depending on your p.o.v....totally inflated the guy`s worth way beyond any rational consideration.....
after watching holloway with that length and hand speed,this could get really ugly(although i saw one site where 3 of 4 "experts" picked garcia via decsion) ...just looks like a very bad stylistic match-up(barring a a hail mary) ...unfortunately,the oddsmakers aren`t stupid...somebody needs to step in on garcia`s behalf...the guy`s going to end up sitting in a corner somewhere,a dozen bottles short of a six pack...Last edited by rocky mattioli; 12-28-12, 11:02 AM.Comment -
Okay boy,
On JDS, Miller, Boetsch, Belcher, Wineland.
Anyone else think Duffee might not be bad for a small play?
Good luck everyone.Comment -
ha Guillard lookin and acting like a massive douche in his little tight blue panties!Comment -
yeah I know but still looked like a shwonz acting all big time! Him being fired up could be a good thing but could also mean Guillard rushes in hands down and gets caught early on!
yeah Johnson does come across as a bit of a douche. I think him and Jury were play acting a bit with the mouthing off and Johnson getting in his face. They both used to train with and also live with Lil Heathen (during his camp for Marcus Davis) so unless something went down in training and they fell out but I doubt tht as both seem like pretty laid back guys. Think it was all for the camerasComment -
Wineland looks like he has a slight size advantageComment -
Bro I'm hammered as shit.
Play the percents yo.Comment -
paid too much for my sprinkles on cain and brunson, should have waited got them at +160 and +120 but now they're at +170 and +140 on my book and prob gonna continue to get better. Like the odds I got for cariaso and varner tho.
No lines for holloway / garcia on my book yet
How many of you guys willing to pay that juice on holloway at -400, still think its worthy? Been a long time since I've paid that kind of juice str8 up, but I'm tempted.
Hoping miller gets under -200 and I might take it small, and might play half lines on boetch and/or okami if they get to dog or even odds. But my gut is telling me to stay away from those as they're true coin flips.Comment -
I sprinkled a little Holloway + Patriots. Belichick will go for the throat. Albeit, Holloway on short notice, but whatever, this is just hooker money.
GL allComment -
I am on JDS but I can't pull the trigger at -200.. I like Varner also, but hoping $$$ will come in on Melvin.. I also am tempted to put a sprinkle on Brunson. I know absolutely nothing about him, but Leben is pretty much an auto fade for me. GL fellas...
Open Wagers GameDate User/Phone Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win Ticket#:82609542
Dec 29 10:35 PMINTERNET / -1 Dec 25 10:04 PM MU STRAIGHT BET
[24013] A BELCHER -110
(A BELCHER vrs Y OKAMI)138 / 125 Ticket#:82610842
Dec 29 11:25 PMINTERNET / -1 Dec 25 10:18 PM MU STRAIGHT BET
[24005] J LAUZON +180
(J LAUZON vrs J MILLER)28 / 50 Comment -
All wagers have action if bout takes place in 2012.
(1007) Alan "The Talent" Belcher -105 Sat@8:30p
Competitor1006) Yushin "Thunder" OkamiMixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
UFC 155 - MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
UFC Heavyweight Championship
All wagers have action if bout takes place in 2012.
(1000) Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos -175 Sat@11:00p
Competitor1001) Cain VelasquezRisk CA$ 203.00 to win CA$ 419.81
Both Must Fight For Action.
(6000) Hector "Lightning" Lombard -210 Fri@9:10p
Competitor6001) Rousimar "Toquinho" PalharesMixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
UFC 155 - MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
All wagers have action if bout takes place in 2012.
(1007) Alan "The Talent" Belcher EVEN Sat@8:30p
Competitor1006) Yushin "Thunder" OkamiRisk CA$ 100.00 to win CA$ 195.24
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Why has the line for main event , doesnt go the distance gone from -1200 to -550 at 5dimes....Comment -
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