What do you guys think about the undercard lines that are released? I think Erik Perez shouldnt be that big of a favorite over anyone
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Belcher has great sub defense. As stated, I believe he was letting Cote advance on purpose. He handled Palharris, who I consider one of the most dangerous guys on the ground in MMA period. Granted, he almost got subbed before he TKOed him. I think Belcher is a great bet here. POUND! If Okami is victorious, then it will most likely be by decision, not Sub. Okami by decision or Belcher by KO would be my props, but I would recommend Belcher straight up.Last edited by DirtyX; 12-25-12, 10:16 PM.Comment -
I saw the line locksmith that's why i mentioned it, I was just wondering what everyone else thought.Comment -
I too think Belcher is the better fighter. But it is a tough bet. Would have been nice at + money. But Okami's stock has declined. Okami is still doing what he was doing when he was a perennial top 3-5 MW. He now has a better jab. i'm just worried about Belcher's TDD. If he can match him there he is better in pretty much all other aspects. Punching power, kicks, speed, combos, chin.....overall grappling/subs may be a bit of a wash. One is a very good control fighter. The other is a fairly legit BB with decent sub skills.
That all said, Okami is still a top 5-7 MW. He still usually fights smart and out-grapples most anyone not named Sonnen.
Anyone have a strong opinion on Belcher's TDD and how he may match up with Okami?Last edited by Rubber Guard; 12-25-12, 10:41 PM.Comment -
I put a decent sized bet on Belcher but now I'm getting worried. I re-watched some Belcher fights and I fine he can be inconsistent in the cage and make dumb mistakes. I think there's no doubt that Okami will be able to take Belcher down but I don't think he'll be able to hold him there. Belcher has improved so much though i wouldn't be surprised if he gets a couple take downs on Okami. I think Belcher squeezes by with a split decision.
And plus, Belcher is dangerous everywhere, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the first to submit Okami. Okami has one way to win, Belcher has many.Comment -
I had to go with Belcher as well. After seeing him survive, arguably manhandle, Palhares within Palhares' domain, then go on to finish the fight in the first round...dude has my respect bigtime. There's a lot more to be said about a performance like that than a recent KO over a nobody in Buddy Roberts. I got Belcher early at +110 and he's now up to -115ish. Loving the line movement here.Comment -
Belcher by Decision?????
Belcher by decision is currently at +230. Even though Belcher usually wins by TKO or Sub, I see Okami being tough enough to survive as Okami will try to smother Belcher. I think the fight will go to decision but Belcher will win it.
What do you guys think?Comment -
merry christmas! da menace at -210 right now.Comment -
wow that line jumpedComment -
Where did you find -210 though, I only see -250Comment -
Miller by dec is being insanely undervalued based just on numbers. Lauzon fights most always don't see the cards, but he is due for a dec. Skill wise I don't see where Miller finishes him in a 3 round fight, unless Joe L gasses hard. Which he is capable of doing. But if you like Miller we are talking -220 straight to +258 by dec. Unless you think there is a giant gap between Miller and Lauzon I don't see how by dec. isn't value.Comment -
I'm throwing miller via decision in a parlay in addition to my other bets on miller. Even with lauzon tired later in the fight, I dont see miller finishing him. I think hes going to end up on bottom for most of the third until the rounds over.Comment -
Velasquez wins by TKO/KO* +310
Dos Santos wins by submission* +2850
Boetsch wins by 3 round decision* +246
Varner wins inside distance* +246Comment -
Stann -205
hendricks same
hunt +120 might as well wait for ko propComment -
like cariaso at + or even money...Comment -
wow, Cain getting near +200 at some booksComment -
All joking aside, if Hunt is +120, his KO/TKO line will likely be, what, +125 or +130... iirc, based on the prop pricings of his last couple fights.
Absolutely no value in waiting for the prop, as +120 is basically the same as +130.
Ok, that last bit was meant intentionally to provoke Nunya and the other cerebrals...Comment -
Also, the TKO/KO line might end up worse than the current moneyline. In this case probably not as I expect Struve will action up to -200 range due to his recent runComment -
I'll wait and see how that Thor dude reacts who goes crazy whenever somebody posts some news and doesn't put in the relevant "news" thread!Comment -
JDS bulked up a little bit.Comment -
if gsot can finish lauzon, so can miller. i am picking miller by decision though.Comment -
I like miller by decision too. I think he plays it somewhat safe compared to other fights.Comment
