UFC 155: Dos Santos vs Velasquez (Dec 29)

**Crassus** · 12-18-12, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

you can get Okami at -115 now, its still a dumb play! Guess why?

Enlighten me.

**PunisherIND** · 12-18-12, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

you can get Okami at -115 now, its still a dumb play! Guess why?

three possible answers
1) you can get okami by decision at better odds
2) he is going to lose
3) he has a tiny rooster

**bjpenn85** · 12-18-12, 07:14 PM

I will have to agree with alternative 1. Okami wont submit or KO Alan Belcher. Its more likely that Alan Belcher will KO Okami if the fight ends by KO. I dont think either fighter is capable to submit the other unless anything very weird happens.

**Crassus** · 12-18-12, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

I will have to agree with alternative 1. Okami wont submit or KO Alan Belcher. Its more likely that Alan Belcher will KO Okami if the fight ends by KO. I dont think either fighter is capable to submit the other unless anything very weird happens.

Belcher almost got submitted by Patrick Cote and only got out because Cote made an amateur mistake from the top. His TDD is...sub-par, Okami could definitely get the sub or TKO if I can get Okami ITD at more than +350 I'd grab it.

**Vrakas** · 12-18-12, 08:33 PM

cain will give jds a spanking.this will a similar beating that lesnar received and never forgot.

**PunisherIND** · 12-18-12, 08:53 PM

Karlos Vemola out at UFC 155, Strikeforce vet Derek Brunson meets Chris Leben

**Mercersux** · 12-19-12, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

Karlos Vemola out at UFC 155, Strikeforce vet Derek Brunson meets Chris Leben

Like Brunson a lot in that fight. Especially with how long of a layoff Leben is coming off of. Looking forward to seeing the prices on this one.

**Dwil125** · 12-19-12, 01:16 AM

Wow I missed all these openers, Miller was -160

**Dwil125** · 12-19-12, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

Karlos Vemola out at UFC 155, Strikeforce vet Derek Brunson meets Chris Leben

Thanks man, I was considering fading vemola again now i can move on to some other fights

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 04:33 AM

I think Vemola had a better chance than Brunson!

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

three possible answers
1) you can get okami by decision at better odds
2) he is going to lose
3) he has a tiny rooster

Number 3 far outweighs the other two

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

Belcher almost got submitted by Patrick Cote and only got out because Cote made an amateur mistake from the top. His TDD is...sub-par, Okami could definitely get the sub or TKO if I can get Okami ITD at more than +350 I'd grab it.

I'd have to watch that fight but I thought it was more of Belcher letting Cote advance to an armbar position knowing that he could use it to end up on top (which he did).

**bjpenn85** · 12-19-12, 05:16 AM

Well last time belcher met Okami it went to a decision. Okami didnt hurt Belcher if i remember correctly, but he controlled him. This is 6 years ago. Who do you think has developed the most? And do you really think belcher will get finished by a man he seeks revenge to? It may happen, but its like....not happening at all. And most rematches ends with 1-1 (based on observation). Okami is a bit chinny, but belcher....belcher has a foooocking good chin. So crassus, reconsider this Okami ITD <-- its bullshit.

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 06:12 AM

I'd be really surprised if Belcher gets finished....obviously it could happen...he's only been outside of the 1st round once since July 2009 and not past 3rd round in any of those 4 fights. Maybe he gasses and Okami finishes him but Belcher has never really had cardio issues and he is a lot more scientific with how he trains and cuts weight now. And I agree with BJ, since their last fight over 6 years ago I believe Belcher has evolved more as a fighter is probably reaching his peak now whilst I'd lean towards thinking that Okami is perhaps at the start of a decline. Okami by decision is probably still the most likely scenario though. One thing with Belcher that concerns me is that he doesnt have the highest level of sparring partners during majority of his camp in Biloxi...seems to be a big fish in a small pond out there. He flew out to Milwaukee to train with Askren and co last week but that is only 2 weeks max of camp spent with them.

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 07:33 AM

Cody also out... http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/1...leonard-garcia

**Rubber Guard** · 12-19-12, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Cody also out... http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/1...leonard-garcia

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-19-12, 12:35 PM

And besides mr Sonnen what world class" athlete does Okami spar with?

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

And besides mr Sonnen what world class" athlete does Okami spar with?

True, really depends on how much time he spends at Team Quest.

Some re-assuring things in this interview...Belcher talks about being in great shape and having brought guys in like an elite wrestler that he hasnt shown on the blog...

Exclusive: Belcher On injuries, Okami And UFC 155

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/12/8/3727604/alan-belcher-ufc-155-interview-exclusive-yushin-okami-mmamania-pt1

Mike Bohn of MMAmania.com talks to UFC middleweight contender Alan Belcher about his the string of injuries that have plagued his career in recent years, his rematch with Yushin Okami at UFC 155 and his desire to fight more often in 2013.

Exclusive: Belcher Analyzes Upcoming 185lb. Fights

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/12/11/3727632/alan-belcher-ufc-155-interview-exclusive-yushin-okami-middleweight-predictions-mma

Mike Bohn of MMAmania.com talks to UFC middleweight Alan Belcher about being an active member of the online MMA community, a future career in broadcasting, his goals for 2013 and a breakdown of some critical middleweight fights on the horizon.

**Mercersux** · 12-19-12, 02:35 PM

**Sacrelicious** · 12-19-12, 02:50 PM

Mercersux, are you Rick?

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 02:56 PM

I didnt think Poirier looked sharp at all on the feet...was throwin wild punches and was off balance a lot

**Mercersux** · 12-19-12, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

Mercersux, are you Rick?

Is Rick the guy making the picks in the vid? If so no I'm not. I'm much more attractive and knowledgeable about mma.

Originally posted by Vaughany

I didnt think Poirier looked sharp at all on the feet...was throwin wild punches and was off balance a lot

Poirier did look pretty sloppy out of the gate. Was shocked Brookins was so open to slugging it out with him for a bit there. Dustin's talent got him through tho.

**Sacrelicious** · 12-19-12, 03:06 PM

Ok, good. Rick is terrible, I listen to the MMA hour regularly.

**PunisherIND** · 12-19-12, 03:28 PM

barn burner Max Holloway replaces injured Cody McKenzie, faces Leonard Garcia at UFC 155

**Rubber Guard** · 12-19-12, 03:34 PM

I was really looking forward to Garcia/Cody.

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

barn burner Max Holloway replaces injured Cody McKenzie, faces Leonard Garcia at UFC 155

damnn son

**Mercersux** · 12-19-12, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

barn burner Max Holloway replaces injured Cody McKenzie, faces Leonard Garcia at UFC 155

Love it !!! Holloway rolls in that one.

**v1y** · 12-19-12, 04:45 PM

thank god mckenzie pulled out. my brain was short circuiting with two auto-fades fighting each other.

**Rubber Guard** · 12-19-12, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by v1y

thank god mckenzie pulled out. my brain was short circuiting with two auto-fades fighting each other.

I just wanted to watch the brilliance and beauty in the cage. Would of been a fun fight.

**PunisherIND** · 12-19-12, 05:15 PM

here you go fellas, good ole tony stark here to save the day

**Vaughany** · 12-19-12, 05:24 PM

**DeFactoCrippler** · 12-19-12, 06:59 PM

holy shit doesn't this twink have to celebrate chanukah or something

watching it now released in my pantaloons when he said dossss sssantosssssss

why in the fock is he talking about chuck and tito

MD · 12-19-12, 07:24 PM

Welp, looks like it'll be Wannabet's House of Winnerz by the end of the month.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 12-19-12, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by MD

Welp, looks like it'll be Wannabet's House of Winnerz by the end of the month.

you had the gimp mask on crooked the whole time pal

**Vaughany** · 12-20-12, 04:17 AM

lol