UFC 154: St-Pierre Vs Condit(Nov 17th, 2012)
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PunisherINDSBR MVP
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NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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Seriously, if you guys liked it, check out his new film, Seven Psychopaths, just as good, plus it has Tom Waits, the greatest human being in existance.Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
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#109Riddle -150
shadow boxing for the winComment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#110
Ditto on both counts.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#111Yeap give me a shout next time bud...always ready to help out a fellow SBR bredren
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rocky16SBR MVP
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#112I've seen this fight several times. I remember both fighters being equally fast on the feet. I walked away with the conclusion that Garza is the faster one, because he was fast enough to catch a fast guy in a FLYING TRIANGLE, which is one of the hardest submissions to pull off.
Let's agree to disagree, you always find lame argumentsComment -
brokenbrainSBR High Roller
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#113Griggs/Diabate - what weight will this be at? 205?Comment -
PunisherINDSBR MVP
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#114
Seven psychopaths is going on my short list.Comment -
Rubber GuardSBR MVP
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#117Carmont by Dec. +341 seems like it is worth a play.Comment -
PunisherINDSBR MVP
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#119
adding a little bit on condit KOTN +1000 at bovada
bovada has some exotic props for this event
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How Many Canadians will win at UFC 154? o/u 4.5 -- i played the over on this one. gsp, hominick, cote, carvalho should all win, and the winner of makdessi/stout will necessarily be canadian. then you have bocek (slight dog) and ring.Comment -
omalley21SBR Wise Guy
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#120adding a little bit on condit KOTN +1000 at bovada
bovada has some exotic props for this event
How many PPV Buys will UFC 154 Have? o/u 800k
Will UFC 154 Sellout?
How Many Canadians will win at UFC 154? o/u 4.5 -- i played the over on this one. gsp, hominick, cote, carvalho should all win, and the winner of makdessi/stout will necessarily be canadian. then you have bocek (slight dog) and ring.Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
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#123I am playing
Hominick 3 round decision +175
Kampmann 3 round decision +304
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MercersuxSBR MVP
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#124adding a little bit on condit KOTN +1000 at bovada
bovada has some exotic props for this event
How many PPV Buys will UFC 154 Have? o/u 800k
Will UFC 154 Sellout?
How Many Canadians will win at UFC 154? o/u 4.5 -- i played the over on this one. gsp, hominick, cote, carvalho should all win, and the winner of makdessi/stout will necessarily be canadian. then you have bocek (slight dog) and ring.Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
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#125-170Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#126I'm on griggsComment -
ImsmarterthanuSBR MVP
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#127Azamat Gashimov is worth a play at that valueComment -
suicidekingsSBR Hall of Famer
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#128Really? I mean I can see GSP wanting to come out and make an impression but I just see this type of game plan playing right into how Condit would want it to play out. I See GSP being able to implement his usual gameplan of getting the takedowns, control from on top, and just staying on the defensive to not allow Condit to make anything happen from bottom. I mean personally, I'd love to see Condit knockout GSP and shake up the welterweight division but GSP is champ and has been champ for so long for a reason. Guy is top flight when it comes to implementing a gameplan. Even if it is boring as hell. I just cannot see GSP finishing Condit via strikes. I'd lean more towards a submission if GSP is going to finish the fight within the distance but i still see a decision victory from gsp if anything.
GSP will be more than happy to keep the fight standing up and should be able to feed Condit a steady diet of leg kicks while keeping the hands moving to keep him honest. The only reason this line is so short is because of the long layoff GSP has had, but this is not a good matchup for Condit, and both fighters know it. Don't be surprised if we see this fight end inside three rounds, with an authoritative TKO from GSP.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#130I'll be on Griggs if his line improves some more. He is pretty shitty but he's a grinder and gritty which may be enough to drag Diabate to the mat and work some ground and pound. Diabate should in theory light him up on the feet thoComment -
MercersuxSBR MVP
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#131How do you think GSP would be doing this? I don't think he is a better striker than Condit. I'd say on par with Condit, but that's stretching it. I do agree that GSP's takedowns will be available to him most of the fight because He's that good at it and Condit takedown defense is poor. I think if GSP goes this route he really has no choice but to be conservative. If he tries to open up with GnP he'll open himself up to Condit who can be very active from the bottom. I think that's up to GSP. I think George is skilled enough from top control and implementing his defense to just smother Condit. Even if GSP wanted to finish him, I don't think he could standing, i don't think he could tko Condit on the ground, and the only possible way i see GSP finishing inside the distance is submission. I just see Condit being skilled enough in his submission defense to not allow this to happen. If GSP takes Condit down continuously, controls him from top, and this constitutes GSP proving w/o a shadow of a doubt he is truly back, then you sir couldn't be more right. I for one don't.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#132I have no doubt that GSP's gameplan is going to be based on jabbing, throwing the odd leg kick and then getting the takedown to steal rounds and end up on top. Zahabi has said in numerous interviews that Condit's only weakness is wrestling so I think it's pretty clear that the main strategy is going to be takedowns and top-control. There is very little chance IMO that GSP comes back from a serious injury, long layoff and against a top fighter and takes any chances. Only way he finishes IMO is a late stoppage due to cuts from gnp or from a rear-naked choke or armbar during a scramble. GSP is saying he wants to finish more fights and all that jazz...be interesting to see if he does take any chances during a scramble which will inevitably happen at times as Carlos wont just lie there on his back like a turtle, or whether he just focuses on control and position (I'd lean towards the latter).Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#133I have no doubt that GSP's gameplan is going to be based on jabbing, throwing the odd leg kick and then getting the takedown to steal rounds and end up on top. Zahabi has said in numerous interviews that Condit's only weakness is wrestling so I think it's pretty clear that the main strategy is going to be takedowns and top-control. There is very little chance IMO that GSP comes back from a serious injury, long layoff and against a top fighter and takes any chances. Only way he finishes IMO is a late stoppage due to cuts from gnp or from a rear-naked choke or armbar during a scramble. GSP is saying he wants to finish more fights and all that jazz...be interesting to see if he does take any chances during a scramble which will inevitably happen at times as Carlos wont just lie there on his back like a turtle, or whether he just focuses on control and position (I'd lean towards the latter).Comment -
CrassusSBR MVP
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#135Sakara at +230? I know Cote hits hard and is iron-chinned but Sakara is a beast so long as he isn't wrestled too bad.Comment -
Rubber GuardSBR MVP
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#136
I think the line is set as is because they just expect Cote's iron chin to outlast Sakara's terrible chin.Comment -
CrassusSBR MVP
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#137
Do you think Sakara has the BJJ game to compete to Cote?
Also, gonna be in Montreal for the day on friday, worth going to the weigh-in?Comment -
Rubber GuardSBR MVP
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#138I think Sakara's BJJ game is much better than Cote's. Not sure if it is good enough to actually pull off a sub from bottom or anything.
Sakara has good hands as well.
But I've always considered his chin to be pretty bad and only getting worse...Cote is one of those guys that it isn't embarrassing to get KO'd by. He hits fairly hard, even if he is an average fighter at best.
Maybe the fight will go differently, but most of Sakara's fights are exchanges in the middle of the cage. I think it is only a matter of time until he gets hit too hard and falls down.
Never been to an event let alone a weigh in. I bet it will be packed. I love watching them on TV. Not sure what sort of things they have? Autograph session? I know they usually have a good Q&A session beforehand with a fighter not on the card. I'd go to weigh ins unless it was a hassle.Comment -
Rubber GuardSBR MVP
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#139Not that the line is correct. That is a fairly big line. But I think it is due to the stylistic matchup of hard hitter/great chin vs. good hands/bad chin. Might be worth a play but Sakara's chin is always an iffy bet.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#140I don't think Sakara has a "terrible" chin. It's not a particularly great chin, but i mean he's got good heart and reflexes. He's only been knocked out by dudes where it's not really THAT embarrassing to be knocked out by them.
Do you think Sakara has the BJJ game to compete to Cote?
Also, gonna be in Montreal for the day on friday, worth going to the weigh-in?Comment
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