UFC 154: St-Pierre Vs Condit(Nov 17th, 2012)

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  • Vaughany
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    #36
    Let me bang bro!
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    • MD
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      #37
      Originally posted by Thor4140
      GSP by KO? That to me is the worst bet to make. If anyone is KOing anyone it is the other way around.
      "Don't see this going well for Condit. Play the KO prop if anything, I think."

      I meant Condit by KO. I think that's just about the only way he wins; I'm playing the GSP by decision prop, as I said earlier.

      Also, I agree that the Condit/Diaz fight was close. I don't agree that only "Diaz nuthuggers" thought he won, though. I thought he took two very clear rounds, lost two very clear rounds, and won a reasonably close round. Everyone has an opinion on that fight, though, so it doesn't really matter what I think.
      Last edited by MD; 11-13-12, 12:25 PM.
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      • gabe
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        #38
        Originally posted by Thor4140
        another horrible robbery only in your eyes. Anyone sane knows it was a close fight or Condits beside you or other Diaz nut huggers.
        I'd call you stupid, but I've beaten that horse to death.

        The fact that Twitter and the entire MMA community was in uproar over the robbery makes it pretty clear that it was not only in my eyes... idiot.

        And if I were such a Diaz nuthugger, I wouldn't have bet Cerrone over Nate. Fool.
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        • Thor4140
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          #39
          Originally posted by MD
          "Don't see this going well for Condit. Play the KO prop if anything, I think."

          I meant Condit by KO. I think that's just about the only way he wins; I'm playing the GSP by decision prop, as I said earlier.

          Also, I agree that the Condit/Diaz fight was close. I don't agree that only "Diaz nuthuggers" thought he won, though. I thought he took two very clear rounds, lost two very clear rounds, and won a reasonably close round. Everyone has an opinion on that fight, though, so it doesn't really matter what I think.
          Gabe makes it sound like an out and out robbery. Nobody with a lick of sense believes that. He says the same thing about other close fights. I swear he just does it for a reaction and if not, he would be the worst judge in MMA history.
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          • Thor4140
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            #40
            Originally posted by gabe
            I'd call you stupid, but I've beaten that horse to death.

            The fact that Twitter and the entire MMA community was in uproar over the robbery makes it pretty clear that it was not only in my eyes... idiot.

            And if I were such a Diaz nuthugger, I wouldn't have bet Cerrone over Nate. Fool.
            Show us all at least three post that say's this was a robbery. This should be easy since as u say "the whole mma community was in an uproar" Dude stop letting ur losing wagers dictate your thoughts.
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            • gabe
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              #41
              Originally posted by Thor4140
              Show us all at least three post that say's this was a robbery. This should be easy since as u say "the whole mma community was in an uproar" Dude stop letting ur losing wagers dictate your thoughts.
              lol every mma website had an article that listed tweets from everybody... lol you're such a character. incredibly low IQ, I would bet.
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              • Beelzebubzy
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                #42
                I love lamp
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                • gabe
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                  Gabe makes it sound like an out and out robbery. Nobody with a lick of sense believes that. He says the same thing about other close fights. I swear he just does it for a reaction and if not, he would be the worst judge in MMA history.
                  Close fights can be robberies, too. A lot of fights are close with one fighter clearly winning. When that decision goes to the fighter that didn't do as much, it's a robbery.

                  You never know what you're talking about, so I don't know why I continue to talk to you
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                  • PunisherIND
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                    #44
                    makes me laugh how they try to make gsp look taller than condit in the event poster



                    actual height

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                    • Vaughany
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                      #45
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                      • PunisherIND
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                        haha he threw a fockin hadoukin?!? lol didnt catch that live.
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                        • Vaughany
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by PunisherIND
                          haha he threw a fockin hadoukin?!? lol didnt catch that live.
                          Probably because FLorian and Anik didnt say anything. If Rogan had of been there he'd of jizzed in his pants and gone on a tirade about how unpredictable and creative Bruce Leroy is!
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                          • PunisherIND
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Probably because FLorian and Anik didnt say anything. If Rogan had of been there he'd of jizzed in his pants and gone on a tirade about how unpredictable and creative Bruce Leroy is!
                            hahaha rogan would have exploded of sure.
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                            • GunShard
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                              makes me laugh how they try to make gsp look taller than condit in the event poster



                              actual height

                              Thanks for pointing this out, lol. Definitely false advertisement.
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                              • bogbat
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                Probably because FLorian and Anik didnt say anything. If Rogan had of been there he'd of jizzed in his pants and gone on a tirade about how unpredictable and creative Bruce Leroy is!
                                Haha, Florian commented on it briefly but didn't make a huge deal out of it.
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                                • bogbat
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                  I'd call you stupid, but I've beaten that horse to death.

                                  The fact that Twitter and the entire MMA community was in uproar over the robbery makes it pretty clear that it was not only in my eyes... idiot.

                                  And if I were such a Diaz nuthugger, I wouldn't have bet Cerrone over Nate. Fool.
                                  I thought Diaz edged it myself but this was one of those fights where people were more mad about Condit's approach to the fight. Sherdog had it for Condit http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...aybyPlay-39067
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                                  • Thor4140
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by bogbat
                                    I thought Diaz edged it myself but this was one of those fights where people were more mad about Condit's approach to the fight. Sherdog had it for Condit http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...aybyPlay-39067
                                    Of course. Most people thought it went either way. This double jackass has it a robbery. Nobody takes him serious i hope.
                                    Last edited by Thor4140; 11-13-12, 06:20 PM.
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                                    • Thor4140
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                      lol every mma website had an article that listed tweets from everybody... lol you're such a character. incredibly low IQ, I would bet.
                                      U calling anyone stupid is comedy relief at its finest. In your warped word of reality u actually believe if you call someone stupid than u must be brighter. I better watch what i say to you. U might be one of those guys that runs to the moderator when your feelings get hurt. I don't see Defact here anymore so it looks like I may be right.
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                                      • PunisherIND
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by GunShard
                                        Thanks for pointing this out, lol. Definitely false advertisement.
                                        gsp looks like hes standing on a stack of phone books haha
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                                        • suicidekings
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Mercersux
                                          Absolutely love this bet. Can definitely see St. Pierre taking his usual conservative route, especially the situation he's in. I'm floored at how much value your getting out of Condit by decision. Is it really that far fetched that e could win in that fashion? I for one don't think it should be valued like that. I'll take it though.
                                          I see this fight differently. I think it's very much in GSP's best interest to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's truly back. Maybe he won't press for an early finish, but I expect him to try to make an impression.
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                                          • Mercersux
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by suicidekings
                                            I see this fight differently. I think it's very much in GSP's best interest to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's truly back. Maybe he won't press for an early finish, but I expect him to try to make an impression.
                                            Really? I mean I can see GSP wanting to come out and make an impression but I just see this type of game plan playing right into how Condit would want it to play out. I See GSP being able to implement his usual gameplan of getting the takedowns, control from on top, and just staying on the defensive to not allow Condit to make anything happen from bottom. I mean personally, I'd love to see Condit knockout GSP and shake up the welterweight division but GSP is champ and has been champ for so long for a reason. Guy is top flight when it comes to implementing a gameplan. Even if it is boring as hell. I just cannot see GSP finishing Condit via strikes. I'd lean more towards a submission if GSP is going to finish the fight within the distance but i still see a decision victory from gsp if anything.
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                                            • MD
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                              haha he threw a fockin hadoukin?!? lol didnt catch that live.
                                              For some background, it's a karate technique called "yamazuki". It's more traditional karate than anything, so you won't see it very often, because modern karate is more intended for sport; even the guys who use "serious" karate (Gunnar Nelson, for example), don't use styles that integrate this kind of technique; it's used in kata a lot.
                                              Last edited by MD; 11-13-12, 07:27 PM.
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                                              • Mercersux
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                                                #58
                                                Figured this might be a decent watch for anyone who doesn't check out mmahour reg...
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                                                • bogbat
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                  I see this fight differently. I think it's very much in GSP's best interest to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he's truly back. Maybe he won't press for an early finish, but I expect him to try to make an impression.
                                                  There's no way GSP is going to go out there and attempt to knock Condit's head off. We all saw how he responded to his first knock out by being much more conservative on the feet from that point forward. With his past considered, I think he will most likely incorporate protecting his knee into his game plan and take Condit down at every calculated opportunity, either by keeping his distance using his jab and shooting in when Condit makes a mistake, or by pushing him up against the fence and attempting take downs from the clinch.

                                                  Even though at times GSP appears to take offense to some criticisms during interviews, come fight time he will always do what he, and his coaches think is the safest route to getting his hand raised. If he attempts to finish Condit at all it will be via submission.
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                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Mercersux
                                                    Guy is top flight when it comes to implementing a gameplan. Even if it is boring as hell. I just cannot see GSP finishing Condit via strikes. I'd lean more towards a submission if GSP is going to finish the fight within the distance but i still see a decision victory from gsp if anything.
                                                    Couldn't agree more.
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                                                    • bogbat
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                      Couldn't agree more.
                                                      Not only that, he also takes mid fight, even mid round directions well; even when its to his detriment. An example of this was when he took Greg Jackson's mid round advice to not pass Hardy's guard, and instead stay in guard to ground and pound.
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                                                      • gabe
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        Probably because FLorian and Anik didnt say anything. If Rogan had of been there he'd of jizzed in his pants and gone on a tirade about how unpredictable and creative Bruce Leroy is!
                                                        I think they did mention it
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                                                        • gabe
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          U calling anyone stupid is comedy relief at its finest. In your warped word of reality u actually believe if you call someone stupid than u must be brighter. I better watch what i say to you. U might be one of those guys that runs to the moderator when your feelings get hurt. I don't see Defact here anymore so it looks like I may be right.
                                                          Im too lazy to report anyone... I don't call you dumb for no reason lol
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                                                          • Thor4140
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by gabe
                                                            Im too lazy to report anyone... I don't call you dumb for no reason lol
                                                            lets get back on track okay. I started it this time i will end it here.
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                                                            • Thor4140
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by bogbat
                                                              Not only that, he also takes mid fight, even mid round directions well; even when its to his detriment. An example of this was when he took Greg Jackson's mid round advice to not pass Hardy's guard, and instead stay in guard to ground and pound.
                                                              It is incredible how most of the fighters haven't learn from this. Than we have other guys who fall into that trap Dana lay's out there where they just want to make him happy while getting brain damage in the process. Another thing is the way GSP feeds into that home town crowd advantage. Lots of fighters choke up and crumble but with him you can actually tell how well he feeds into it. That crowd will be in a frenzy Saturday night when they announce his name. He is carrying this card. I think the next two free ones are much better than this one.
                                                              Last edited by Thor4140; 11-14-12, 07:43 AM.
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                                                              • Thor4140
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                                                                #66
                                                                what do you guys think of the Riddle Mcguire fight? I think Riddle is a stiff but i think Mcquire should be fighting at 155. Mcguire looked awful his last fight but Riddle is a whole different caliber of a fighter than Hathaway was. Interested to see this line. Maybe 120 Riddle.
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                                                                • Thor4140
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                  MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)
                                                                  • Champ Georges St-Pierre vs. interim champ Carlos Condit (welterweight-title unification)
                                                                  • Johny Hendricks vs. Martin Kampmann
                                                                  • Tom Lawlor vs. Francis Carmont
                                                                  • Constantinos Philippou vs. Nick Ring
                                                                  • Mark Hominick vs. Pablo Garza

                                                                  PRELIMINARY CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET)
                                                                  • Patrick Cote vs. Alessio Sakara
                                                                  • Cyrille Diabate vs. Chad Griggs
                                                                  • John Makdessi vs. Sam Stout
                                                                  • Mark Bocek vs. Rafael dos Anjos

                                                                  PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6 p.m. ET)
                                                                  • Antonio Carvalho vs. Rodrigo Damm
                                                                  • Azamat Gashimov vs. Ivan Menjivar
                                                                  • Darren Elkins vs. Steven Siler
                                                                  • John Maguire vs. Matt Riddle



                                                                  Nice set up of the card Locky
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                                                                  • ShotgunRua
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Guys Paddy Power will refund any losing bet on the GSP fight if the fight ends in submission. I know that's probably the least likely method of victory but still it eliminates 1 variable.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                      what do you guys think of the Riddle Mcguire fight? I think Riddle is a stiff but i think Mcquire should be fighting at 155. Mcguire looked awful his last fight but Riddle is a whole different caliber of a fighter than Hathaway was. Interested to see this line. Maybe 120 Riddle.
                                                                      Had to laugh at Leeroy Barnes' tweet to Maguire...
                                                                      Spotted in Canada @MaguireTheOne and his team on the way to Tristar gym for a workout

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                                                                      • Vaughany
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Unless MAguire is dog I won't even consider playing him even though he's facing a dope like Riddle. If it was anybody other than Riddle (like even Yousef) I'd of probably faded Maguire here. Maguire is not one of these fighters who stays in amazing shape all year round, shall we say he likes to "indulge" after fights, and even more so after the last one as he was very depressed about how he performed in tht fight. Riddle on other hand is already close to the weight (he was 176 a week or 2 ago). Obviously that poor performance is also what has motivated Maguire to take this fight on short notice as he wants to make up for that performance. He's also got to deal with the jetlag for first time, furthest he's fought from home before was Russia. I'll probably stay away from this one and just cheer on my fellow butter-toothed Brit!
                                                                        Last edited by Vaughany; 11-14-12, 09:01 AM.
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