MLB System Strategies

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 08:47 AM

H/A Plays went 0-0 YDA
YTD 23-18 +1.70u
No Plays

P/T Plays went 2-0 YDA +1.33u
YTD 49-37 +13.93u
SEA ½ u W
OAK ½ u W

Today’s H/A Plays
No plays if > -150
DET
FLA

Today’s P/T Plays
No plays if > -150
DET
BAL
PIT ½ u
STL
KC N/P MIN W-3
ARZ N/P COL W-2

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 08:54 AM

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**joeytunes** · 06-05-12, 10:30 AM

SA 6/5

Det,-150
Nyy<-150
Lad<-181
Bal
Cin<-132
Mia<-135
stl<-150
Cws<-150
Col
Oak

Filtered

Cubs L4
KC minny W3
Sd L4

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

May 15 - Current
Overall
(53-45) +10.20Units

June 5
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-105) 10.00
CWS (-105) 3.67
StL (-135) 2.94
Yanks (-120) 2.69
Brew (-145) 2.65
Cincy (-145) 2.48
LAD (+165) 2.24

No Play
Det np>-150 5.57
KC npMinnyW3 2.03
LAA npL2 1.81
Atl npMiaW2 1.80
Wash np>-150 1.72
TX np>-150 1.67

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Overall
(49-54) -13.65Units

TPR
Yanks (-120) 1.5
Cincy (-145) 1.5
StL (-135) 1.4
Colo (+130) 1.1
Bos (-150) 1.0

No Play
TX np>-150 3.0

TX: you have a no play filter on, if any play is > -150 right?
CIN N/P If > -150
DET If < -150 is a play Or TEX If <-150 is a play
Thanks

**HoulihansTX** · 06-05-12, 10:38 AM

The odds I have listed are from 6am pacific. If they have changed then I'm unaware.

I employ posters to watch lines as they change, up to 15 minutes B4 first pitch. If something changes into, or out of range of filters it will be updated as always the next morning.

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

The odds I have listed are from 6am pacific. If they have changed then I'm unaware.

I employ posters to watch lines as they change, up to 15 minutes B4 first pitch. If something changes into, or out of range of filters it will be updated as always the next morning.

Since we don't control the lines I think we should just post them as a play.
And post your filter of no play if > - 150
early lines don't mean anything
all that matters is 15 minutes before game start, take a look at Cincinnati now it's over 150 and you have as a play
Just because it's not a play at 6 AM doesn't mean it can't be a play at 7 PM or vice verse
Okay thanks it's just a little confusing.
No big deal thanks

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by joeytunes

SA 6/5

Det,-150
Nyy<-150
Lad<-181
Bal If
Cin<-132
Mia<-135
stl<-150
Cws<-150
Col
Oak

Filtered

Cubs L4
KC minny W3
Sd L4

DET If < -150
NYY If < -150
LAD If > +171
BAL If<-150
CIN If < -132
MIA If < -135
STL If < -150
CWS If < -150
COL If < -104 or > +
OAK N/P IP < -20

**Tommygunn** · 06-05-12, 01:18 PM

Moneyline System

(4/06/12) - 0-2 -2.72 units (Oak did not qualify)
YTD April 24-Current - 52-57 for -12.58 units

L2W2 - NP's Yestereday
YTD(May 21 start) 5-4, +1 unit

Today's Plays (5/06/12)

Det if -105 to -150

NYY if -115 to -150

Bos if +110 to -150

Cinn if -150 exactly

Mia if -125 to -150

Stl if Hou +115 or >

CWS if -115 to -150

W2L2

Ari if -105 to -150

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 11:48 PM

Holy Christ what a horrible night I cannot believe how bad s/a is doing
Is is it too late to fade it now?
I think not but what the hell I know.

**ShivaBowl** · 06-05-12, 11:51 PM

H/A Plays went 0-1 YDA –1.27
YTD 23-19 +0.43
DET No Play > -150
FLA L

P/T Plays went 2-1 YDA +1.00u
YTD 51-38 +14.93u
DET No Play > -150
BAL W
PIT ½ u W
STL L
KC N/P MIN W-3 W
ARZ N/P COL W-2 W

**BrewMaster** · 06-06-12, 07:40 AM

Shiva, for what it's worth, SA system started off terribly last year too. It wasn't until about 2/3 through the season until it really picked up.

**HoulihansTX** · 06-06-12, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

May 15 - Current
Overall
(53-45) +10.20Units

June 5
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-105) 10.00 W
CWS (-105) 3.67 L
StL (-135) 2.94 L
Yanks (-120) 2.69 W
Brew (-155) 2.65 NP>-150
Cincy (-145) 2.48 L
LAD (+165) 2.24 W

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Overall
(49-54) -13.65Units

TPR
Yanks (-120) 1.5 W
Cincy (-145) 1.5 L
StL (-135) 1.4 L
Colo (+130) 1.1 L
Bos (-160) 1.0 NP>-150

No Play
TX np>-150 3.0

May 15 - Current
Overall
(56-48) +10.00Units

June 6
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-130) 10.00
Yanks (-140) 2.69
LAD (+100) 2.24
Atl (+140) 1.80
Wash (-150) 1.72
TX (-150) 1.67

No Play
Det npL2 5.57
CWS npTorW2 3.67
StL npHouW2 2.94
Brew npL2 2.65
Cincy npL2 2.48
KC np>-150 2.03
LAA np>-150 1.81

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Overall
(50-57) -16.45Units

TPR
TX (-150) 3.0
Yanks (-140) 1.5
Colo (+125) 1.1

No Play
Cincy npL2 1.5
StL npHouW2 1.4
Bos npL2 1.0

**ShivaBowl** · 06-06-12, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by BrewMaster

Shiva, for what it's worth, SA system started off terribly last year too. It wasn't until about 2/3 through the season until it really picked up.

It's good to hear from you BrewMaster.
I may have overreacted on s/a last night, they did pick up on a few dogs last night.
I'm just frustrated with baseball right now, we have teams that can't bunt can't hit and can't catch, and are just plain stupid, unbelievable.

**ShivaBowl** · 06-06-12, 09:02 AM

Today’s H/A Plays
No plays if > -150
I’m fading H/A when + on home team and H/A-PP <-100
SFO
BAL
ATL
MIN
LAA
TEX
MLW N/P L-2
DET N/P L-2

Today’s P/T Plays
No plays if > -150
SFO
LAD
KC
LAA
MLW N/P L-2

**joeytunes** · 06-06-12, 12:20 PM

Shiva..ur telling me i been getting killed i havent foloowed anything det looked solid last night..but it got out of range dogs i bet are losing and favs i bet are losing i took a step back the worst year i ever had so far..

**joeytunes** · 06-06-12, 02:07 PM

Sa yesterday 6/5
3-5 - 1.0 units
YTD 64- 103 _33.50

DET If < -150 np
NYY If < -150 W 1.0
LAD If > +171 W 1.7
BAL If<-150 W 1.6
CIN If < -132 L -1.5
MIA If < -135 L -1.3
STL If < -150 L-1.4
CWS If < -150 l - 1.1
COL If < -104 or > + L -1.1

Toiday 6/6

Sf <-150
Clev<-145
Lad
Bal < -171
Pit < -136
Laa < -144
Atl < -125
Hou < -136
Kc < -150
Tex < -150

Filter

Mil L2
Tb yanks W2
Ariz IP
wash IP

**Tommygunn** · 06-06-12, 02:41 PM

Moneyline System

(4/06/12) - 1-2 -1.57 units (Det, Bos, Cinn and CWS did not qualify)
YTD April 24-Current - 53-59 for -14.15 units

L2W2 - NP's (Ari did not qualify)
YTD(May 21 start) 5-4, +1 unit

Today's Plays (6/06/12)

SD if +110 to -150

KC if -120 to -150

W2L2

Mia if -110 to -150

Stl if Hou -120 or <

**joeytunes** · 06-06-12, 03:20 PM

looks like ml disagrees? thats it

**ShivaBowl** · 06-07-12, 07:32 AM

H/A Plays went 4-0 yesterday +5.58u
YTD 27-19 +6.01u
SFO –117 W
BAL +165 W
ATL +138 W
MIN +155 W
LAA No Play > -150
TEX No Play > -150

P/T Plays went 2-0 YDA +2.00u
YTD 53-38 +16.93u
SFO –117 W
LAD –105 W
KC No Play > -150
LAA No Play > -150

Today’s H/A Plays
No plays if > -150
LAD ½ u
BAL ½ u
PIT ½ u
ATL ½ u

Today’s P/T Plays
No plays if > -150
CHC
BAL
STL
PHI N/P L-5
MIA N/P L-2
CWS N/P L-2

**HoulihansTX** · 06-07-12, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

May 15 - Current
Overall
(56-48) +10.00Units

June 6
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-130) 10.00 W
Yanks (-140) 2.69 W
LAD (+100) 2.24 W
Atl (+140) 1.80 W
Wash (-150) 1.72 W
TX (-160) 1.67 NP>-150

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Overall
(50-57) -16.45Units

TPR
TX (-160) 3.0 NP>-150
Yanks (-140) 1.5 W
Colo (+125) 1.1 L

May 15 - Current
Overall
(61-48) +15.40Units

June 7
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-135) 6.24
Balty (+135) 3.78
Wash (+115) 3.05
Oak (+150) 2.64

No Play
Mia npL2 5.66
CWS npL2 5.54
Cincy np>-150 4.65
Det npL3 2.81

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Overall
(51-58) -16.45Units

TPR
Yanks (-150) 1.6

No Play
TX np>-150 2.8
Cincy np>-150 1.4
StL np>-150 1.3
Bos npL3 1.0

**Tommygunn** · 06-07-12, 11:04 AM

Moneyline System

(7/06/12) - 0-1 -1.00 units (KC did not qualify)
YTD April 24-Current - 53-60 for -15.15 units

L2W2 - 1-1 -0.47
YTD(May 21 start) 6-5, +0.53 unit

Today's Plays (7/06/12)

NYY if -150 exactly

Stl if Hou +125 or > (NP if Stl -150 or >)

**joeytunes** · 06-07-12, 11:31 AM

Can anyone pick me up on sa?? Or I can do it later

**joeytunes** · 06-07-12, 05:44 PM

Yesterday 6/6

6-3 +3.0units
Ytd 70-106 -30.50
Sf <-150 W +1.0
Clev<-145 W +1.5
Lad W +1.0
Bal < -171 W +1.6
Pit < -136 L -1.0
Laa < -144 Np
Atl < -125 W +1.4
Hou < -136 L -1.0
Kc < -150 NP
Tex < -150 L -1.5

Today 6/7

Lad
Mil <-142
Bal
Pit< -165
Stl<-150

Filters

Cws L2
Tb L2
Nym L3

**HoulihansTX** · 06-08-12, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

May 15 - Current Overall(61-48) +15.40UnitsJune 7Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-135) 6.24 W
Balty (+135) 3.78 L
Wash (+115) 3.05 L
Oak (+150) 2.64 W

___________________________Overall(51-59) -17.85UnitsTPR
Yanks (-140) 1.6 L

May 15 - Current
Overall
(63-50) +15.90Units

June 8
Bullpen Proj Sys
NYY (-130) 6.14
SF (+125) 5.91
Cincy (-140) 3.61
KC (+120) 3.58
Wash (-105) 3.22
Balty (-120) 2.46
CWS (-140) 1.85

No Play
Zona npOakW2 4.22
Brew np>-150 3.01
Cubs npL2 2.43
Sea npLADW4 1.87
Cleve npStLW2 1.40
Colo npL2 1.03

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Overall
(51-59) -17.85Units

TPR
Bos (-105) 1.5
KC (+120) 1.2
StL (-140) 1.2

No Play
Zona npOakW2 1.6
TX npL2 1.5
Colo npL2 1.2

**ShivaBowl** · 06-08-12, 09:54 AM

H/A Plays went 3-1 yesterday +1.75u
YTD 30-20 +7.76u
LAD ½ u W
BAL ½ u L
PIT ½ u W
ATL ½ u W

P/T Plays went 1-2 yesterday -1.00u
YTD 54-40 +15.93u
CHC L
BAL L
STL W

Today’s H/A Plays
Filter no play if > -150
WAS
TAM
ATL

Today’s P/T Plays
Filter no play if > -150
NYM
WAS
ATL

**Tommygunn** · 06-08-12, 01:30 PM

Moneyline System

(7/06/12) - 1-0 +1.00 units (NYY did not qualify)
YTD April 24-Current - 54-60 for -14.15 units

L2W2 - NP's
YTD(May 21 start) 6-5, +0.53 unit

Today's Plays (8/06/12)

Balt if -110 to -150

NYY if -125 to -150

Pitt if -130 to -150

Bos if -110 to -150

Cinn if -145 to -150

Stl if +100 to -150

LAA if Col +135 or > (NP if LAA >-150)

W2L2

Arz if -120 to -150

Tex if SF +120 or >

**joeytunes** · 06-08-12, 02:04 PM

Sa yesterday 6/7
Lad W +1.8
Mil <-142 W +1.0
Bal L 1.0
Pit< -165 W + 1.5
Stl<-150 W +1.0

4-1 +4.3 units
YTD 68- 104 -29.20

Today 6/8

Bal <-150
Pit<-121
Wash < -101
Tb <-150
Min <-150
Stl < -150
Laa <-150
Sf <-107
Lad < -105

Filters
Atl Np -150
Hou Np L2
Oak Np ariz W2

**Tommygunn** · 06-08-12, 02:21 PM

Just a heads up, for the last week I have been combining the H/A, P/T and BPR with the fastball software. So far it's worked out pretty well. I have stayed away from all the other systems including the ML. I'm sure the ML system will turn around but for right now I'm just tracking it until we see some better results.

**djprimem** · 06-08-12, 06:11 PM

What is fastball software?

Tommy, what is fastball software?

Does anyone post it ?

Thx, DJPrimeM

**ShivaBowl** · 06-09-12, 05:24 AM

H/A Plays went 3-0 yesterday +3.00u
YTD 33-20 +10.76u
TAM W
WAS W
ATL W

P/T Plays went 2-1 yesterday +1.00u
YTD 56-41 +17.93u
NYM L
WAS W
ATL W

**ShivaBowl** · 06-09-12, 08:19 AM

Today’s H/A Plays
CLE
TAM

Today’s P/T Plays
PHI
LAD
STL

**HoulihansTX** · 06-09-12, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

May 15 - Current
Overall
(63-50) +15.90Units

June 8
Bullpen Proj Sys
NYY (-130) 6.14 W
SF (+125) 5.91 L
Cincy (-140) 3.61 W
KC (+120) 3.58 L
Wash (-105) 3.22 W
Balty (-120) 2.46 L
CWS (-160) 1.85 NP>-150

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Overall
(51-59) -17.85Units

TPR
Bos (-105) 1.5 L
KC (+120) 1.2 L
StL (-130) 1.2 L

May 15 - Current
Overall
(66-53) +15.70Units

June 9
Bullpen Proj Sys
SF (-105) 5.48
NYY (-150) 5.35
Brew (-140) 4.55
Cleve (+125) 3.24
Cincy (+130) 3.10
Sea (+120) 2.02
AtL (-140) 1.44
Wash (-110) 1.39

No Play
CWS np>-150 1.50
KC npL2 1.49
Balty npL2 1.70

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Overall
(51-62) -21.30Units

TPR
TX (-105) 1.7
Zona (-140) 1.6
Bos (+100) 1.3
NYY (-150) 1.2

No Play
KC npL2 1.2
StL (-135) 1.1
Colo npL3 1.1

**ShivaBowl** · 06-09-12, 08:53 AM

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**ShivaBowl** · 06-09-12, 10:09 AM

FYI:
Take a look at the discrepancy in innings pitched, when there's a differential of over 15 to 20 innings pitched
I have found the numbers os stats, on a play not to be true.
If you look up P/T today on ST... with TEX and SFO the numbers are good
on SFO but I have them as a no play due to IP DIF of > -43 on Feldman
compered to Vogelsong..
So I am throwing the stats on this play, out the window?
All of you, should be doing the same thing.

**Tommygunn** · 06-09-12, 10:22 AM

Moneyline System

(8/06/12) - 1-2 -1.50 units (Pitt, Bos, Cinn did not qualify)
YTD April 24-Current - 55-62 for -15.65 units

L2W2 - NP's (Both Arz and Tex did not qualify)
YTD(May 21 start) 6-5, +0.53 unit

Today's Plays (9/06/12)

Atl if -130 to -150

Det if Cinn +100 or > (np if >-150)

NYY if -140 to -150

Stl if -135 to -150