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  • Formulawiz
    Restricted User
    • 01-12-09
    • 1589

    #1506
    It looks like only 2 systems are performing pretty well. We should concentrate on those. Any thoughts.
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    • str8sNUTZ
      SBR Rookie
      • 03-27-10
      • 30

      #1507
      Has anyone paid attention to picks that met more than 1 of the systems? Figure someone out there has kept stats on picks that have met 2 or more of the systems and how they fared.
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      • ShivaBowl
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-09-10
        • 5133

        #1508
        07/29/11
        H/A System Plays
        CWS
        SDP
        TEX 1/2Unit
        OAK
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        • jacktheknife
          SBR MVP
          • 09-25-10
          • 1217

          #1509
          Originally posted by Formulawiz
          ML plays went 1-0, +1 unit

          YTD 105-60, +32.85 units

          NO ML plays today
          ML plays went 1-0, + 1 unit

          YTD 106-60, +33.85 units
          Sorry, but where did that extra win come from again?
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          • Tommygunn
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-26-09
            • 669

            #1510
            I posted today and my posts disappeared? Can someone tell me what happened? Did SBR remove them?

            There wasn't really any plays for PT but I put up three half unit plays that had over 20 innings pitched differential.
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            • Formulawiz
              Restricted User
              • 01-12-09
              • 1589

              #1511
              ML plays went 2-0, +2.2 units. SD and SEA dropped out.

              YTD 108-60, 36.05 units

              Plays later today
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              • Formulawiz
                Restricted User
                • 01-12-09
                • 1589

                #1512
                Originally posted by jacktheknife
                Sorry, but where did that extra win come from again?
                You need to do your homework. CWS
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #1513
                  Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140

                  ATL < -140, CIN < -125, LAD
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                  • ShivaBowl
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-09-10
                    • 5133

                    #1514
                    07/28/11
                    H/A System Plays Went 0-3
                    BOS 1/2Unit –145 L
                    OAK –122 L
                    STL 1/2Unit - .97 L
                    Start Date 06/01
                    77-63 +5.58u

                    07/29/11
                    H/A System Plays
                    CWS –114 W
                    SDP –116 L
                    TEX 1/2Unit -.66 L
                    OAK –146 L
                    78-66 +3.30u

                    07/30/11
                    H/A System Plays
                    SFO
                    COL
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                    • ShivaBowl
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-09-10
                      • 5133

                      #1515
                      Originally posted by Tommygunn
                      I posted today and my posts disappeared? Can someone tell me what happened? Did SBR remove them? There wasn't really any plays for PT but I put up three half unit plays that had over 20 innings pitched differential.
                      Originally posted by Tommygunn
                      P/T Plays July.28.11 Arz 1/2 Minn 1/2 Tor ? ( np if >-150) Filtered: Bos >-150 NP if >-150
                      I dont see anything for 07/29/11 BOL
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                      • HoulihansTX
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 02-12-09
                        • 30566

                        #1516
                        July 30
                        Bullpen Projection System
                        KC
                        5.21
                        Minny 2.92
                        Pitt 2.76
                        Dodgers 2.57
                        CWS 2.20
                        SF 1.92
                        Angels 1.23

                        No Play
                        Yanks np>-150 7.35
                        SD np(Colo W2) 3.34
                        TX np(Toronto W2) 2.42
                        Wash np L2 2.28
                        Seattle np(Tampa W2) 1.66

                        TPR
                        Colo
                        1.5
                        Tampa 1.4
                        Mets 1.1
                        Cincy 1.0

                        No Play
                        Boston np L2 2.2
                        Zona np L2 1.0
                        Yanks np>-150 1.0
                        Last edited by HoulihansTX; 07-30-11, 02:40 PM.
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                        • SportBettingKing
                          Restricted User
                          • 07-24-11
                          • 16

                          #1517
                          Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                          Source: Sportrends
                          You would be hard pressed to find any successful professional handicapper who does not have a definable bankroll, a season game plan to achieve profits and a clear understanding of finding an edge and getting value. To get an edge you need to develop a system or method for guiding you.

                          One of the reasons baseball is so profitable to an experienced sports handicapper, is that it’s filled with numerous statistics not found in any other sport. No other sport breaks it down with such detail indicating which teams struggle with offensive and defensive inconsistencies. Our system analysis will pinpoint when a team is starting to produce at a higher rate.

                          Baseball is terrific for the number of statistics that are tracked during each game and they can paint a detailed picture of what to expect from teams offensively and defensively nearly every game.

                          Here you will be getting the Key advice and Handicapping Insights you Need to Win?
                          Our systems provide alternative strategies strictly based on statistics.
                          There are No Hunches, No Guesswork, No Opinions, Just Facts.

                          BOL
                          I don't think the value for baseball betting is in the stats, its in the money line. You can profit when the books have to pay a lot just to get people to bet on teams that are not bad at all.

                          Case in point today, 7-30-2011, is the Pirates at +230. Get real, a good team, .500 plus team on the road, getting +230???

                          You can keep on spending all of your time trying to analyze stats, but I will leave that up to the books and instead try to figure out when they are having to pay too much to balance things out.

                          Parity in the league makes the stats, even though there are more of them, less valuable than they are in sports with less parity.

                          IMHO
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                          • Tommygunn
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-26-09
                            • 669

                            #1518
                            Complimentary Selection for 7/30/2011
                            Take NY Mets W/Dickey over Washington W/Marquis NO PLAY if > -105
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                            • Tommygunn
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-26-09
                              • 669

                              #1519
                              P/T Plays July.30.11

                              Mil


                              NP if >-150
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #1520
                                Covering for BM.
                                07/30/11
                                S/A System Plays
                                LAA, no play if LAA > -134
                                TAM, no play if TAM > -150
                                NYM, no play if NYM > -105
                                CIN, no play if CIN > -150


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                                • BrewMaster
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 12-03-10
                                  • 555

                                  #1521
                                  Thanks Shiva, I had a prior commitment today. Will update tomorrow.

                                  BM
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                                  • Formulawiz
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 1589

                                    #1522
                                    Originally posted by SportBettingKing
                                    I don't think the value for baseball betting is in the stats, its in the money line. You can profit when the books have to pay a lot just to get people to bet on teams that are not bad at all.

                                    Case in point today, 7-30-2011, is the Pirates at +230. Get real, a good team, .500 plus team on the road, getting +230???

                                    You can keep on spending all of your time trying to analyze stats, but I will leave that up to the books and instead try to figure out when they are having to pay too much to balance things out.

                                    Parity in the league makes the stats, even though there are more of them, less valuable than they are in sports with less parity.

                                    IMHO
                                    I would agree with you in all sports except for baseball. This sport is the only game in town where you can have a losing win/loss record and still make money. I agree with sportrends in that stats are very important if you know what you are looking at. Sportsbooks DO NOT make as much money in baseball as other sports and if they had a choice, they would get rid of it all together.
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                                    • Tommygunn
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-26-09
                                      • 669

                                      #1523
                                      Originally posted by Tommygunn
                                      P/T Plays July.30.11

                                      Mil


                                      NP if >-150
                                      Sorry guys Mil's not a play. Line way over -150 limit
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                                      • ShivaBowl
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 03-09-10
                                        • 5133

                                        #1524


                                        Originally posted by Tommygunn
                                        Sorry guys Mil's not a play. Line way over -150 limit
                                        Hey TG, lets make these no play if >-150 filters plays, a 1/2 Unit play.
                                        Think about it?
                                        Thanks

                                        Also, I think we should do the same for TPR, TX:?
                                        We have to try to come up with something new with TPR to help stop the bleeding?
                                        BOL
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                                        • ShivaBowl
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 5133

                                          #1525
                                          Originally posted by SportBettingKing
                                          I don't think the value for baseball betting is in the stats, its in the money line. You can profit when the books have to pay a lot just to get people to bet on teams that are not bad at all. Case in point today, 7-30-2011, is the Pirates at +230. Get real, a good team, .500 plus team on the road, getting +230??? You can keep on spending all of your time trying to analyze stats, but I will leave that up to the books and instead try to figure out when they are having to pay too much to balance things out. Parity in the league makes the stats, even though there are more of them, less valuable than they are in sports with less parity. IMHO
                                          Hey SportBettingKing, It is the odds maker’s job to confuse the general public into thinking he is getting a good team at a cheap price, when in fact the public has been duped into playing a team where the ML is way out of line.

                                          Case in point your Pirates today, were a loser, if you took the time to look up all the stats
                                          on this game, you would have found that Pit had no chance of winning today.

                                          It's also not surprising that 95% of the betting public has no clue how Vegas arrives at their lines. The ability to win requires a unique understanding of all of the processes involved rather than implementing one specific strategy.

                                          I have full confidence in our system tools and that they will be profitable by year-end.

                                          I do agree with you on one point the M/L System and S/A System
                                          should go back to the old spreadsheet thread next year, because they’re
                                          systems are based on line moment.
                                          BOL
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                                          • ShivaBowl
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-09-10
                                            • 5133

                                            #1526
                                            Originally posted by SportBettingKing
                                            I don't think the value for baseball betting is in the stats, its in the money line. Parity in the league makes the stats, even though there are more of them, less valuable than they are in sports with less parity. IMHO
                                            I'm doing just fine this year using stats, also, I could not disagree more, with your parity analysis, when it comes to MLB.
                                            If you stay on your current path using only the M/L the books will eventually cash you out.
                                            BOL
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                                            • ShivaBowl
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-09-10
                                              • 5133

                                              #1527
                                              07/30/11
                                              H/A System Plays Went 1-1
                                              SFO +102 L
                                              COL +112 W
                                              Start Date 06/01
                                              79-67 +3.40u

                                              07/31/11
                                              H/A System Plays
                                              ALL PLAYS ½ UNIT
                                              CIN
                                              ATL
                                              PHI
                                              MLW
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                                              • Formulawiz
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 1589

                                                #1528
                                                ML plays went 2-1, +0.6 units

                                                YTD 110-61, +36.65 units

                                                Todays plays

                                                WAS, LAD, DET, CWS
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                                                • HoulihansTX
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-12-09
                                                  • 30566

                                                  #1529
                                                  July 31
                                                  Bullpen Projection System
                                                  KC
                                                  6.18
                                                  Minny 3.55
                                                  Wash 3.31
                                                  TX 1.84
                                                  Dodgers 1.82
                                                  Tampa 1.15

                                                  No Play
                                                  SD np L2 3.08
                                                  Yanks np>-150 2.23
                                                  Hou np L2 1.46

                                                  TPR
                                                  Boston
                                                  2.2
                                                  Colo 1.6
                                                  Tampa 1.4
                                                  Cincy 1.0
                                                  Mets 1.0
                                                  Zona1.0

                                                  No Plays
                                                  Yanks np>-150 1.1
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                                                  • Tommygunn
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-26-09
                                                    • 669

                                                    #1530
                                                    P/T Plays July.31.11

                                                    Atl
                                                    Wash
                                                    Mil

                                                    Filtered:

                                                    CHC L5
                                                    NYY >-150


                                                    NP if >-150
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                                                    • Tommygunn
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-26-09
                                                      • 669

                                                      #1531
                                                      Complimentary Selection for 7/31/2011
                                                      Take Chi W Sox W/Buehrle over Boston W/Miller NO PLAY if > -115
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                                                      • ShivaBowl
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-09-10
                                                        • 5133

                                                        #1532
                                                        Covering for BM.
                                                        07/30/11
                                                        S/A System Plays
                                                        LAA, no play if LAA > -134, -115 W
                                                        TAM, no play if TAM > -150, +107 L
                                                        NYM, no play if NYM > -105, No Play
                                                        CIN, no play if CIN > -150, -112 W
                                                        2-1 +1.00u

                                                        07/31/11
                                                        S/A System Plays

                                                        CLE if < -131
                                                        CIN if < -150
                                                        BOS if >+105
                                                        OAK if < -150
                                                        TAM if <-149
                                                        ARZ if <-124
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #1533
                                                          ML plays went 1-2, -1.35

                                                          YTD 111-63, +35.3

                                                          Plays later today
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                                                          • Formulawiz
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 1589

                                                            #1534
                                                            NO ML plays today
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                                                            • BrewMaster
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 12-03-10
                                                              • 555

                                                              #1535
                                                              Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                              Covering for BM.
                                                              07/30/11
                                                              S/A System Plays
                                                              LAA, no play if LAA > -134, -115 W
                                                              TAM, no play if TAM > -150, +107 L
                                                              NYM, no play if NYM > -105, No Play
                                                              CIN, no play if CIN > -150, -112 W
                                                              2-1 +1.00u

                                                              07/31/11
                                                              S/A System Plays

                                                              CLE if < -131
                                                              CIN if < -150
                                                              BOS if >+105
                                                              OAK if < -150
                                                              TAM if <-149
                                                              ARZ if <-124

                                                              Guys, there have been issues at work that I've been managing. I am travelling the next 3 days so Shiva if you wouldn't mind tracking SA until I return that would be a great help.
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #1536
                                                                07/31/11
                                                                H/A System Plays Went 3-1
                                                                Start Date 06/01
                                                                82-68 +4.17u

                                                                08/01/11
                                                                H/A System Plays
                                                                MLW
                                                                PHI
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                                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 5133

                                                                  #1537
                                                                  07/31/11
                                                                  S/A System Plays

                                                                  CLE –123 L

                                                                  CIN No Play
                                                                  BOS +108 W
                                                                  OAK –144 W
                                                                  TAM –126 W
                                                                  ARZ +110 W

                                                                  4-1 +2.95

                                                                  08/01/11
                                                                  S/A System Plays
                                                                  CIN
                                                                  STL
                                                                  PHI
                                                                  ARZ
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                                                                  • HoulihansTX
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                                    • 30566

                                                                    #1538
                                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                    Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                    Overall (194-201) -2.53Units
                                                                    ___________________
                                                                    Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                    July 29
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System
                                                                    KC 7.59 W (+115)
                                                                    Pitt 3.85 L (+220)
                                                                    CWS 2.84 W (-115)
                                                                    Florida 2.68 L (+140)
                                                                    Seattle 2.36 L (-105)
                                                                    Mets 2.24 W (-115)
                                                                    Minny 1.93 W (+130)
                                                                    Hou 1.89 L (+???)
                                                                    SF 1.72 L (-110)
                                                                    Angels 1.34 L (+120)
                                                                    ________________
                                                                    TPR
                                                                    (80-93)19.33Units

                                                                    Boston 2.2 L (+105)
                                                                    Tampa 1.4 W (-105)
                                                                    Mets 1.1 W (-115)
                                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                    July 30
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System
                                                                    KC 5.21 L (+140)
                                                                    Minny 2.92 L (+120)
                                                                    Pitt 2.76 L (+220)
                                                                    Dodgers 2.57 L (-140)
                                                                    CWS 2.20 L (+140)
                                                                    SF 1.92 L (+100)
                                                                    Angels 1.23 W (-115)
                                                                    ___________
                                                                    TPR
                                                                    Colo 1.5 W (-130)
                                                                    Tampa 1.4 L (+110)
                                                                    Mets 1.1 L (-120)
                                                                    Cincy 1.0 W (-110)
                                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                    July 31
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System
                                                                    KC 6.18 W (+110)
                                                                    Minny 3.55 L (+130)
                                                                    Wash 3.31 W (-120)
                                                                    TX 1.84 L (-105)
                                                                    Dodgers 1.82 L (-120)
                                                                    Tampa 1.15 W (-125)
                                                                    _______________
                                                                    TPR
                                                                    Boston 2.2 W (+105)
                                                                    Colo 1.6 L (-110)
                                                                    Tampa 1.4 W (-125)
                                                                    Cincy 1.0 Np>-150
                                                                    Mets 1.0 L (+110)
                                                                    Zona1.0 W (+115)
                                                                    March 26 to May 14
                                                                    Overall
                                                                    (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                                    Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                    Overall
                                                                    (202-216) -9.78Units
                                                                    ___________________
                                                                    Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                    Aug 1
                                                                    Bullpen Projection System
                                                                    Philly 5.34
                                                                    Florida 2.83
                                                                    Oak 2.67

                                                                    No Plays
                                                                    SF np L2 2.69
                                                                    Pitt np L2 1.14
                                                                    ________________
                                                                    TPR
                                                                    (87-98)17.47Units

                                                                    Zona 1.2

                                                                    No Plays
                                                                    Boston np>-150 1.9
                                                                    Yanks np>-150 1.7
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                                                                    • Tommygunn
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-26-09
                                                                      • 669

                                                                      #1539
                                                                      Yesterday P/T System Went 1-1 = -0.46 Units
                                                                      Start Date 06/12
                                                                      46-35 +6.66u
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                                                                      • Tommygunn
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 02-26-09
                                                                        • 669

                                                                        #1540
                                                                        Complimentary Selection for 8/1/2011
                                                                        Take Florida W/Vazquez over NY Mets W/Pelfrey NO PLAY if NYM < -120
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