Shut Out System

[Grinder12000]

ebbearsfb1 - I'm just asking a question - why are you being so chest poundy!

ghislaine - I am asking nicely - all I want to see is the money trail for this! Hey - I'm working the numbers but am confused on the $$ side. If anyone is doing this with real money I would love to see a series from start to finish! You can see below I'm confused - I LOVE progressions! I have whole notebooks filled with progressions!

see below!

If done correctly this is rather a complicated system actually! Certainly can not do it in your head!

for instance - let's say there is a shitout so the next game you bet $13 to win $10 at -130 and you lose. You can't just add $13 to the next $10 wager. If the next game is -160 you have to a 20.80 to get your $13 you lost in the previous game. So you are betting 36.80 to win $10. $20.80 to get the original bet BACK and $16 to win today's $10.

Correct?

I think IF this is the case you are missing a TON of plays!

[mitchp]

Hey Guys,

Yes I'm still alive and playing the system, just haven't had much time to post ( but that is changing). I've been trying to keep up and thrilled to see that the thread is still alive and making units. Wondering is you can help me out though, I noticed that there are teams that are being omitted, can you let me know which teams those are, I can't seem to find when that was brought up. Also are we omitting them for the season or just a point in time?

Thanks
Mitch

[cappinthepigs]

I would like to look into this system too. Nice work guys

[ebbearsfb1]

ebbearsfb1 - I'm just asking a question - why are you being so chest poundy!

ghislaine - I am asking nicely - all I want to see is the money trail for this! Hey - I'm working the numbers but am confused on the $$ side. If anyone is doing this with real money I would love to see a series from start to finish! You can see below I'm confused - I LOVE progressions! I have whole notebooks filled with progressions!

see below!

If done correctly this is rather a complicated system actually! Certainly can not do it in your head!

for instance - let's say there is a shitout so the next game you bet $13 to win $10 at -130 and you lose. You can't just add $13 to the next $10 wager. If the next game is -160 you have to a 20.80 to get your $13 you lost in the previous game. So you are betting 36.80 to win $10. $20.80 to get the original bet BACK and $16 to win today's $10.

Correct?

I think IF this is the case you are missing a TON of plays!

Look at your first post in here,(saying this doesn't work) a lot of stuff ur asking is in this thread

[knugen]

ebbears, any update for tonights game?

[Grinder12000]

Heck - I have read the entire thread and still do not understand exactly - only vagueness. why not just post what you have?? How one series works - I started with the Boston NY BoSox were shut out - bet AGAINST them
Series #1

Bet Yankees +125 10 to win 12.50 LOSE
Bet Yankees +137 20 to win 27.4 WIN Series over

1-0 + 0.74 units Right?

HECK - I'll put up real money for this - no else will come forth!

So tonight we are betting on the Brewers - which is a good bet anyway -121
The tricky part comes when you are constantly betting the favorites!

[ebbearsfb1]

ebbears, any update for tonights game?

Yes by 630, no day games today at work now but will update later

[incomeraise]

So did the system have 2 series lost yesterday or am lost? Am talkijng about the angels (fade boston) and the san diego one, they were all on game 5t yesterday right? Just making sure I am following it crrectly?

[floridagolfer]

So, someone explain what you do in tonight's Oakland-Angels game. You'd be betting against the Angels because they got shut out yesterday, but you'd also be betting against Oakland because it got shut out Friday and then won its next two games. How is a situation like this handled?

[stevex]

Don't make it so confusing. ebbears will be updating which teams to tail or fade later today. Whatever he posts every day is what you follow.

[playr101]

Hey Guys, Yes I'm still alive and playing the system, just haven't had much time to post ( but that is changing). I've been trying to keep up and thrilled to see that the thread is still alive and making units. Wondering is you can help me out though, I noticed that there are teams that are being omitted, can you let me know which teams those are, I can't seem to find when that was brought up. Also are we omitting them for the season or just a point in time? Thanks Mitch

here ya go mitch

SYSTEM 1:

Bet Against a team off scoring 0 runs (Getting shutout). This is a 6gm Chase. We will OMIT the following teams. (LAD , OAK , C.SOX).. Everyone else is a go. I like this system the best due to the fact it has only had 3 losses in 3 yrs and we only omit 3 teams.

SYSTEM 2:

Bet On a team off allowing 0 runs (Shuting the other out). This is a 5gm Chase. We will OMIT the following teams. (LAD , BALT, KC, CLEV, WASH).. Everyone else is a go. As you can ses, the teams we are omitting are mostly lower tier teams.. There are not many wins generated from these teams and alot of risk for a loss.

-playr101

[playr101]

floridagolfer.. OAK is on the OMIT list.. so they are a no bet

-playr101

[mitchp]

Thanks playr, I know I started this but I'm still confused by the who thing - are most people playing both system at the same time?

[floridagolfer]

floridagolfer.. OAK is on the OMIT list.. so they are a no bet

-playr101

I'm just trying to learn how and why a team is placed on the "omit" list.

[stevex]

mitch, I'm playing both at the same time, yes.

[playr101]

i am playing both systems... if there is a tail and fade in the same game.. I still play both... 1 will win, 1 will carry over to the next game... (and hopefully win the next one)...

The OMIT list was posted by ebbears.. I think its teams that lost to many times in previous years using this system, wait till he replies...

I have 3 fade games today... fade: TOR, LAA, CIN...
I would expect ebbears to post all the plays later today

-playr101

[soldier1047]

Last year, there was no omit teams.

[knugen]

philly are a game 6 fade game also

[Grinder12000]

I like this system the best due to the fact it has only had 3 losses in 3 yrs and we only omit 3 teams.

LOL winning games is meaningless - how much MONEY did it make?? I've still only seen the winning games part of the system and not the actual money management part (the important part).

I mean if you started betting $10 against Philly when the Brewers shut them out! tonight bet will be ABOUT $300 to win $10 right? Of course you could continue and bet $610 tomorrow to win $10, but this is conservative as you are betting favorites so you actually have to bet more then that. The flaw in the system is that you stop at 6 games!

No worries - I won't bother the thread again! Unless there is part of the system I'm missing but no one really seems to want to fill in where I'm wrong here! They just get upset that I feel it's flawed and tell me to read the thread - which I have and I have yet to see how this works UNLESS you have a huge bankroll.

[ebbearsfb1]

what you win, is going to be different from what playa or krugen wins, unless your playing to win the same amount of dollars as everyone else, so the amount of money it wins, is different for anyone

[stevex]

I don't see where the confusion is here. To be honest we really shouldn't even be trying to help you out considering your FIRST post in this thread was bashing the system. So why would we help you? It's pretty simple, you can either use a conventional chase if you have a bigger bankroll or you can implement a labby for money management. If you don't know what a labby is then do some research as there are plenty of posts that explain it. In fact there was someone in this very thread that showed you exactly what money amounts they where betting a couple of posts ago. So either you can follow the system or just leave....

Thanks.

And to ask the question, "how much money did it make?" is just ridiculous. So what are you saying, EVERYONE has the same bankroll? Such a joke.

[ghislaine]

Labby, it`s great fun !!
Concentrate on clearing lines and You grow Your bank without even noticing
I made Friday my payday, that`s when I withdraw

[stevex]

Labby, it`s great fun !!
Concentrate on clearing lines and You grow Your bank without even noticing
I made Friday my payday, that`s when I withdraw

[ebbearsfb1]

Thank you stevex, every year the amount won will be different you should probably stop gambling grinder(if you don't get that every year is different)..... no one needs the annoyance of you saying the system does or doesn't suck, I don't play many games of the system so I could easily stop posting if people or persons are gonna bitch and can't figure out simple things themselves, or are too lazy too flip through pages to find them, I get very few points and 0 dollars for keep track of this so I don't an annoyance on here

[stevex]

ebbears don't mind that crap man. We all appreciate you posting everyday man. Where going to make bank with the system this year!

[ghislaine]

spent mine...
will flip points Your way tomorrow and days to come
please give the man some points fellas
we really do appreciate it !!
IGNORE him, we heart You man !!

[ebbearsfb1]

Thanks g, I really do appericate when you guys spend me some points, we got a good group in here of some nice guys

[ebbearsfb1]

? Are you guys starting all chases from game 1 or how you guys doing it, think I'm gonna start tonight following playas 4 labby line system

[stevex]

ebbears, best way to do it with this system man. Labby is the way to go!

[stevex]

Update?

[ebbearsfb1]

Update?

no plays for no runs allowed




no runs scored
fade phillies game 6

fade angels game 1
fade bluejays game 1
fade reds game 1

[stevex]

My brother, appreciate it kid. Lets make some money tonight, big bet tonight no the Diamondbacks!

[ebbearsfb1]

System 1
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
System 2
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5

[Grinder12000]

Didn't mean to spoil any fun guys! Go for it and good luck!!

[honeyeater]

SO I have BOS as a fade #6- AND in theory it can be a tail #1 (I'm just playing the fade)