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  • stevex
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-02-10
    • 5122

    #246
    playr you got it down man. That's what it's all about, making profit in the long term.
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    • playr101
      SBR MVP
      • 01-16-10
      • 2029

      #247
      I just noticed.. 46) Fade White Sox chase 20 (game 1)

      I already bet the game..... but isn't that one of the OMIT teams?

      -playr101
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      • atari5200
        Restricted User
        • 09-15-10
        • 464

        #248
        LABBY LINES

        I definitely use a 1 line labby for all other systems but i'm finding it a bit tricky here.
        I've been trying to ask stevex about it but there's some sort of miscommunication going on there. Stevex i'd still very much appreciate your response but i'll invite playr and the rest of you here to share your thoughts on this.

        Unless you run a separate labby for each team, its gonna be too difficult to throw these 5 and 6 game chases into a 1 line labby.

        or

        only run a labby on the game 1 bets since they hit so high

        and...

        coming back in on a game 5 and game 6 chase if they go that far.

        or..

        do separate 1 line labbys for each game #.
        game 1 could be 25-25-25-25
        game 2 could be 15-15-15-15
        game 3 could be 10-10-10-10
        game 4 could be 5-5-5-5
        game 5 could be 15-15-15-15
        game 6 could be 25-25-25-25

        please reply if you have other suggestions.
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        • cancan
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-11-10
          • 128

          #249
          Bol , I will be following you, lets make some money
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          • playr101
            SBR MVP
            • 01-16-10
            • 2029

            #250
            I am playing a labby for system 1 and a chase for system 2...

            for system 1 .. i started w/ 4 lines..

            10-10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10-10

            if there are 4 games.. 1 is played on each line to win 20.. if more then 4 games.. then I split off for the 5th game.. so...

            10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10
            10-10-10-10

            I redistribute the lines if needed.. it makes clearing the lines take longer, but it does not hit the bankroll too hard on those chases
            Everytime I clear a line.. it clears 50

            I dont know if this is the best way to do it... It keeps me interested though... I am open to suggestions myself

            -playr101
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            • incomeraise
              SBR MVP
              • 11-28-09
              • 1136

              #251
              You know what....having 4 lines labby are the best thing to do!! It might take longer to clear the line ...but the chase are not that crazy...and evrytime you clear a line...you can increase the amoint of that line!!!
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              • stevex
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-02-10
                • 5122

                #252
                Update on plays tonight?
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                • ebbearsfb1
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-07-08
                  • 18815

                  #253
                  April 18th, 2011
                  42) Anaheim Angels vs. Texas Rangers chase 9 (game 6)
                  43) Seattle Mariners vs. Detroit Tigers chase 18 (game 2)
                  Overall: 17-24-2 System 17-0


                  April 19th, 2011
                  44)fade Washington Nationals vs. chase 16 (game 4)
                  45)fade New York Mets vs. chase 19 (game 2)
                  46) fade padres chase 21 (game 1) PPD


                  as always points are appericated
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                  • ebbearsfb1
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-07-08
                    • 18815

                    #254
                    April 19th, 2011
                    31) tail Chicago Cubs chase 16 (game 1)
                    32) tail Tampa Bay Rays chase 17 (game 1)
                    33) tail Braves chase 15 (game 2)
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                    • stevex
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-10
                      • 5122

                      #255
                      Thanks brother.
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                      • stevex
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-02-10
                        • 5122

                        #256
                        Lets make some money tonight boys and girls!
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                        • shinnman
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-25-11
                          • 282

                          #257
                          hey i respect your opinion guys so tell me what you think, its a little twist to the shutout sys: if a team is at or above .500 when they get shut out(including that loss) chase them to win for a 3 game chase( if they are favored, play them -1)
                          also i will be running it on 3 seperate labby lines, one line for game 1,2, and 3, so far this season it would be 8-0 and looking like this
                          A 6-3
                          B 2-1
                          C 1-0
                          like i said i am new to the system betting and would love some input
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                          • Paintdog1rst
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 4

                            #258
                            Will see if it works ...
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                            • atari5200
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-15-10
                              • 464

                              #259
                              Thanks to those who've replied about their labby lines.

                              i'm sure many people are asking you questions stevex, but you've posted three times after mine and won't bother to answer the one basic question I've been asking you for a week.

                              playr's got 4 lines
                              shinmann's got 3 lines with games 1,2,3 on the first line

                              i'm gonna figure things out and get back to you guys about my strategy. Good luck everyone
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                              • shinnman
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 02-25-11
                                • 282

                                #260
                                atari i like the idea of each game # having its own line, even a 3 game loss in my system would only get you for 3 units, i may have explained wrong this is what i meant
                                game 1- 10 10 10 10
                                game 2- 10 10 10 10
                                game 3- 10 10 10 10

                                by the wat atari, you have the coolest name on sbr
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                                • stevex
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-02-10
                                  • 5122

                                  #261
                                  How about the Astros taking care of business...

                                  Damn the Mets have some issues.

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                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 18815

                                    #262
                                    April 19th, 2011
                                    44)fade Washington Nationals vs. St Louis Cardinals chase 16 (game 4)
                                    45)fade New York Mets vs. Houston Astros chase 19 (game 2)
                                    Overall: 18-24-2 System 18-0
                                    April 20th, 2011
                                    46) fade San Diego Padres vs. Chicago Cubs chase 21 (game 1)
                                    47) fade Philadelphia Phillies vs. Milwaukee Brewers chase 22 (game 1)
                                    48)fade Pittsburgh Pirates vs. Florida Marlins chase 23 (game 1)
                                    49) fade Minnesota Twins vs. Baltimore Orioles chase 24 (game 1)







                                    also possibly the nationals game 5

                                    idk how much longer im gonna be awake so this is for tomorrow
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                                    • ebbearsfb1
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-07-08
                                      • 18815

                                      #263




                                      April 19th, 2011
                                      31) tail Tampa Bay Rays vs. Chicago White Sox chase 17 (game 1)
                                      32) tail Atlanta Braves vs. Los Angeles Dodgers chase 15 (game 2)
                                      Overall: 15-15-1 System 15-0

                                      April 20th, 2011
                                      34) tail Chicago Cubs vs. San Diego Padres chase 16 (game 1)
                                      35) tail Milwaukee Brewers vs. Philadelphia Phillies chase 18 (game 1)
                                      36) tail Florida Marlins vs. Pittsburgh Pirates chase 19 (game 1)








                                      points are appericated
                                      (i have barely been playing any of the games in this system just posting for you guys)
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                                      • ebbearsfb1
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 18815

                                        #264
                                        i havent tailed this system yet cause i still havent figured out the best way to play the labby lines with out them getting messy
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                                        • stevex
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-02-10
                                          • 5122

                                          #265
                                          How come your not using the system?
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                                          • atari5200
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 09-15-10
                                            • 464

                                            #266
                                            thanks, shinnman,

                                            stevex still posting, still ignoring a simple 1 line 5-8 word reply i've been waiting a week for. Joke's on me I guess.
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                                            • stevex
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 05-02-10
                                              • 5122

                                              #267
                                              Ok, ebbears this is what I would recommend on how to implement the labby for each system.

                                              Say for example you have 4 games in one day for the system and don't want to risk that much for each game. Just split your base amount that you're risking for ONE GAME into 4. So say your base amount is 50. Just break that into 4 games so say instead of risking 55 to win 50 for each of the 4 games, now your only going to risk 15 to win 13 for each game.
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                                              • atari5200
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 09-15-10
                                                • 464

                                                #268
                                                thanks stevex! oh wait you're replying to ebbears
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                                                • ebbearsfb1
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                  • 18815

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by stevex
                                                  Ok, ebbears this is what I would recommend on how to implement the labby for each system. Say for example you have 4 games in one day for the system and don't want to risk that much for each game. Just split your base amount that you're risking for ONE GAME into 4. So say your base amount is 50. Just break that into 4 games so say instead of risking 55 to win 50 for each of the 4 games, now your only going to risk 15 to win 13 for each game.

                                                  this is how im going to do it
                                                  System 1
                                                  5-5-5-5 fade san diego
                                                  5-5-5-5 fade philadelphia possibly nationals
                                                  5-5-5-5 fade pirates
                                                  5-5-5-5 fade twins


                                                  System 2
                                                  5-5-5-5 tail cubs
                                                  5-5-5-5 tail brewers
                                                  5-5-5-5 tail marlins
                                                  5-5-5-5 tail braves????
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                                                  • shinnman
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-25-11
                                                    • 282

                                                    #270
                                                    ok ok why you fellas ignoring my buddy atari, no hate up in here
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                                                    • atari5200
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 09-15-10
                                                      • 464

                                                      #271
                                                      theres's no hate. We're trying to figure something out together to make this system profitable without too much risk. Everyone can implement their own style of labby. Stevex ran some great labbys this year and his opinion mattered. At this point guys, i'm really enjoying this system and the thread and looking forward to a great season.
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                                                      • playr101
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-16-10
                                                        • 2029

                                                        #272
                                                        maybe he has you on his ignore list and does not even see your posts.. :P

                                                        I think I am skipping the PHIL/MIL fade/tail... just me.. got plenty of others to play for now

                                                        -playr101
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                                                        • atari5200
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 09-15-10
                                                          • 464

                                                          #273
                                                          maybe, playr, maybe....

                                                          i here you on the philly situation. C bet on philly for system integrity and G's system. Whatever you do, don't go too large either way.
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                                                          • shinnman
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 02-25-11
                                                            • 282

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by shinnman
                                                            hey i respect your opinion guys so tell me what you think, its a little twist to the shutout sys: if a team is at or above .500 when they get shut out(including that loss) chase them to win for a 3 game chase( if they are favored, play them -1)
                                                            also i will be running it on 3 seperate labby lines, one line for game 1,2, and 3, so far this season it would be 8-0 and looking like this
                                                            A 6-3
                                                            B 2-1
                                                            C 1-0
                                                            like i said i am new to the system betting and would love some input
                                                            well here gos fellas,
                                                            philly -1 15-10
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                                                            • playr101
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-16-10
                                                              • 2029

                                                              #275
                                                              hope it works for ya...

                                                              -playr101
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                                                              • cancan
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-11-10
                                                                • 128

                                                                #276
                                                                Thanks for the picks, good luck today.
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                                                                • ebbearsfb1
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                                  • 18815

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Add boston to the fade and a's to the tail
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                                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                                    • 18815

                                                                    #278
                                                                    R u guys double fading boston and phillies or double tailing a's and brewers or only betting each once?
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                                                                    • atari5200
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 09-15-10
                                                                      • 464

                                                                      #279
                                                                      alright gentlemen, i've been crunching numbers with all sorts of labby variations. I've double and triple checked and I keep seeing the same spotlight shining on one particular method.

                                                                      game 1 + game 2
                                                                      5-5-5-5
                                                                      5-5-5-5
                                                                      5-5-5-5

                                                                      game 3 + game 4
                                                                      15-15-15-15

                                                                      game 5 + game 6
                                                                      20-20-20-20

                                                                      the numbers can obviously be adjusted to your bankroll limits. The rise in number as you progress to G3/4 to G5/6 is natural since they simply win more and make more profit.

                                                                      game 1 and 2 is taking more time to clear right now but it will improve through the season by looking at the previous years results posted a few pages ago.

                                                                      If the lines clear twice for any of the game groups, I will increase each number on the line by 5.

                                                                      I may also play the game 1 and game 2 more aggressively. If they get too long by simply distributing the next game's loss into the numbers already on the line to prevent it from getting too long. The other 2 lines I got (G3/G4 and the G5/G6) are looking quite comfortable and easy to clear so far this season so I won't be too aggressive there and just keep adding to the end of the line.

                                                                      my final point: (I've made this mistake a few times in the past) ALWAYS bet to cross off 2 numbers on your line. When you lose, always add only 1 number to the end of the line.

                                                                      This is what I got. It took a few hours to go over all the games so far this season and it's all chicken scratches in my betting book (i'm old school like that) so please forgive me if I can't offer online spreadsheets.

                                                                      Take this info and do what you wish.
                                                                      BOL
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                                                                      • ebbearsfb1
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-07-08
                                                                        • 18815

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Genius really really like it, great work
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