MLB Regressing vs. Increasing Odds System

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  • jooshoowa
    SBR Hustler
    • 10-31-12
    • 56

    #386
    Hey TT, is the ML performance for games greater than -180 also at a positive ROI in that same time span?
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    • TechnicalTrader
      SBR MVP
      • 05-09-16
      • 1434

      #387
      Ytd +7.3%
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      • Mackballs
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-01-16
        • 5810

        #388
        Guys I don't mean to clog the thread with posts but I just want to get some confirmation that I'm wagering correctly.

        Starting roll $4000 and starting to follow system today.

        So for today's RIOF play on Washington as an example:

        Washington -170 = 38 to win 20 (.05%)
        Washington RL +115 = 17 to win 20 (.05%) - combined to win 40 which is 1%.

        Assuming that is correct, Washington also qualifies as an RIOF4 play. Now I know TT said he is taking these to win 1.5%. Now is that 1.5% split between SU and RL equally to win .075% on each? And would that be added to the RIOF play to make it combined to win 2.5% total? So to win 1.25% on moneyline and to win 1.25% on runline.

        So for Washington today I bet the following:

        -170 - 38/20
        -1.5 +115 - 17/20

        Then added the RIOF4 amounts:

        -170 - 57/30
        -1.5 +115 - 26/30

        Total to win 2.5% which is $100.

        I hope I did it right lol thanks guys.
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        • TechnicalTrader
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-16
          • 1434

          #389
          Originally posted by Mackballs
          Guys I don't mean to clog the thread with posts but I just want to get some confirmation that I'm wagering correctly.

          Starting roll $4000 and starting to follow system today.

          So for today's RIOF play on Washington as an example:

          Washington -170 = 38 to win 20 (.05%)
          Washington RL +115 = 17 to win 20 (.05%) - combined to win 40 which is 1%.

          Assuming that is correct, Washington also qualifies as an RIOF4 play. Now I know TT said he is taking these to win 1.5%. Now is that 1.5% split between SU and RL equally to win .075% on each? And would that be added to the RIOF play to make it combined to win 2.5% total? So to win 1.25% on moneyline and to win 1.25% on runline.

          So for Washington today I bet the following:

          -170 - 38/20
          -1.5 +115 - 17/20

          Then added the RIOF4 amounts:

          -170 - 57/30
          -1.5 +115 - 26/30

          Total to win 2.5% which is $100.

          I hope I did it right lol thanks guys.
          Correct, other than a typo: *(0.5%) not (.05%)
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          • TechnicalTrader
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-16
            • 1434

            #390
            CLE at -190, looks like it will be a play!
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            • Mackballs
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-01-16
              • 5810

              #391
              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
              Correct, other than a typo: *(0.5%) not (.05%)
              Ha, Indeed. Also wash -190 not -170. Thanks.
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              • teecee
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-09
                • 6298

                #392
                I got Washington at -174, Mack.
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                • teecee
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-18-09
                  • 6298

                  #393
                  Also, from post #390, I would just like to know how you insert btwn -180 and -400 in the query box at KillerSports.
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                  • Mackballs
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-01-16
                    • 5810

                    #394
                    Originally posted by teecee
                    I got Washington at -174, Mack.
                    Good line there.

                    Cleveland a RIOF4?
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                    • TechnicalTrader
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-09-16
                      • 1434

                      #395
                      CLE is not RIOF4
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                      • TechnicalTrader
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-16
                        • 1434

                        #396
                        Originally posted by teecee
                        Also, from post #390, I would just like to know how you insert btwn -180 and -400 in the query box at KillerSports.
                        I didn't, I just queried <-180. if I would've said "with odds smaller than -180" we would've started all back over again and questions would've poured in if "smaller than" means <-180 or >-180...

                        Anyway the query is line>=-400 and line <=-180
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                        • Mackballs
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-01-16
                          • 5810

                          #397
                          Idk why I thought that it was. It was the dodgers who were listed in your initial post today as possible RIOF4.

                          Locking in Cleveland now.
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                          • Dano85
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-06-11
                            • 240

                            #398
                            I dont see Cleveland at -190 anywhere at covers opened at -190 now at -172
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                            • TechnicalTrader
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-09-16
                              • 1434

                              #399
                              in deed. As long as that above link shows -190, CLE is a play
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                              • TechnicalTrader
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-09-16
                                • 1434

                                #400
                                nope, closed at -170. If anyone did take it and can hedge out or cash out in game, I recommend to do it!
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                                • Dano85
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-06-11
                                  • 240

                                  #401
                                  Mackballs says he locked it in at 2:39, which was the only reason i posted. Does killer have an actual live odds page?

                                  Also regarding the system for cleveland today they would of been -190 yesterday -190 today had it stuck, should that be counted as "increasing"?
                                  Last edited by Dano85; 04-29-17, 03:24 PM.
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                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-09-16
                                    • 1434

                                    #402
                                    nope. The system is tricky to play. These plays were the lines are close are real hard to play. Feel free to lay off of them if it's too much of a hassle! It's a headache for me too
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                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-09-16
                                      • 1434

                                      #403
                                      Just copy paste in to excel if you need to view it cleaner
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                                      • Mackballs
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-01-16
                                        • 5810

                                        #404
                                        What line do we need on the dodgers?
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                                        • Mackballs
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-01-16
                                          • 5810

                                          #405
                                          Ok... would be RIOF4 right?
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                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-16
                                            • 1434

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                            CLE loss, both the RIOF and RIOF4 plays.

                                            Today's pending RIOF plays:
                                            NYY
                                            WAS
                                            LAD

                                            RIOF4:
                                            NYY
                                            WAS
                                            LAD
                                            ...
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                                            • Scrivero
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-30-17
                                              • 673

                                              #407
                                              I like the style of putting the results and the pending plays and the link to keep an eye on the lines all in one and same post! Makes it easy and fun and fast to follow the progress of everything.
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                                              • barryt
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-23-13
                                                • 237

                                                #408
                                                It's about 11 am..little early but going racing this pm
                                                DAY
                                                Rays just have to be the FAV now at -110 PLAY
                                                Braves just have to be the FAV now at -113 PLAY
                                                Marlins need -126 now at - 132 PLAY
                                                im playing those 3 now and passing on the next 2.
                                                LAD need -216 now at -200 NO PLAY 4 pm game so should recheck around then.
                                                NIGHT
                                                Cubs need -116 presently the DOG at +107 hence NO PLAY
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                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                  • 1434

                                                  #409
                                                  TB, ATL and MIA all looking like RIOF plays. If MIA and ATL qualify, they would be both RIOF4 plays.
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                                                  • Dano85
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-06-11
                                                    • 240

                                                    #410
                                                    Would watch the Marlins, dont think they will close at the required line...
                                                    Last edited by Dano85; 04-30-17, 11:55 AM.
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                      • 1434

                                                      #411
                                                      TB and MIA both still qualify
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                                                      • Dano85
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 10-06-11
                                                        • 240

                                                        #412
                                                        at 1:14 Miami drops to -120
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                                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-16
                                                          • 1434

                                                          #413
                                                          Nope, MIA did not make it!
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                                                          • Mackballs
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-01-16
                                                            • 5810

                                                            #414
                                                            So do we hedge on Pitt now if we already put in Miami?
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                                                            • Dano85
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-06-11
                                                              • 240

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by Mackballs
                                                              So do we hedge on Pitt now if we already put in Miami?
                                                              might be tough to hedge them now
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                                                              • GoodBadUgly
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 03-25-12
                                                                • 19

                                                                #416
                                                                TechnicalTrader, would St. Louis today fall within a favorite with increasing odds (implied odds getting stronger) against a dog with increasing odds (implied odds getting weaker)? If the below were the actual odds, would St. Louis be a play today?
                                                                4/28/17 St. Louis -147 Cinci +125
                                                                4/29/17 St. Louis -172 Cinci +150
                                                                4/30/17 St. Louis -173 Cinci +155

                                                                I just want to make sure I understand the logic. Thank you.
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                                                                • TechnicalTrader
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-09-16
                                                                  • 1434

                                                                  #417
                                                                  STL didn't play yesterday
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                                                                  • GoodBadUgly
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-25-12
                                                                    • 19

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Yes, you're right. But if those were the actual odds, and St. Louis and Cinci both played the previous two days, would St. Louis be a play today? Thanks.
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                                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                                      • 1434

                                                                      #419
                                                                      yes
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                                                                      • Dano85
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 10-06-11
                                                                        • 240

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Glad to see Miami hit for those who got it...didnt watch the game why did they pull Kuhl after 4?
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