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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #71
    [QUOTE=LT Profits;26149568]
    Originally posted by No coincidences
    You said the exact opposite recently -- that both this year and last year, you've been losing the plays consistently when you handily BTCL.

    How am I saying the opposite, they are two different things. I have losing record on game with extreme BTCL of 30+. But I am still in good shape because I limited the damage by getting those great lines (i.e., lost less), and I was over +100 units last year on games where I beat closers by < 30.
    You are way too linear and robotic in your thinking when it comes to BTCL in this day and age. You just basically chalk up your blind spots as some sort of inevitability. Whatever, man. You could be so much better than you already are with just a few minor adjustments.
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    • CanuckG
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-23-10
      • 21978

      #72
      Reds doing what was expected. Now lets go Angels.
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #73
        Originally posted by funnyb25
        8 starts doesn't matter either man...it's all about what happened first 3 months of the season
        NOT first 3 months, but FULL season more important then recency unless there is a reason for change in form. No Coin keeps talking about injury, which may very well be true, but I never assume an injury without one being reported. Quite the contrary, I assume all is well as long as teams keep sending pitcher out every five days.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #74
          [QUOTE=No coincidences;26149590]
          Originally posted by LT Profits

          You are way too linear and robotic in your thinking when it comes to BTCL in this day and age. You just basically chalk up your blind spots as some sort of inevitability. Whatever, man. You could be so much better than you already are with just a few minor adjustments.
          I LIKE linear and robotic. I think that is a recipe for success actually. Emotion and betting do not mix well.
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #75
            While all this chattering was going on, nobody has scored so keep it up.
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            • HeeluvaGuy
              SBR MVP
              • 02-15-14
              • 3449

              #76
              Originally posted by LT Profits
              While all this chattering was going on, nobody has scored so keep it up.
              Lol. I noticed that. Go get 'em!
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              • funnyb25
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-09-09
                • 39663

                #77
                Ya, your royals under looks good. That one should hit pretty easily
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #78
                  Originally posted by funnyb25
                  Ya, your royals under looks good. That one should hit pretty easily
                  Are you on your period?
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                  • funnyb25
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-09-09
                    • 39663

                    #79
                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                    Are you on your period?
                    that was impressive!
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #80
                      On a side note, NFL Preseason plays looking good early
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #81
                        [QUOTE=LT Profits;26149616]
                        Originally posted by No coincidences

                        I LIKE linear and robotic. I think that is a recipe for success actually. Emotion and betting do not mix well.
                        Being rigid and unwilling to change betting styles/patterns is not a recipe for success, especially in today's market, which is saturated with information like never before.

                        Think of the resources the average gambler has at their finger tips today vs., say, 10-15 years ago. Do you honestly think the books haven't recognized that and been forced to adjust accordingly, rendering concepts like BTCL and RLM irrelevant?
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #82
                          BTCL and RLM will never be irrelevant simply because of what they mean. Beating closing line is never a bad thing for reasons already discussed, a "sharper" market does nothing to change that. In other words, a better line is a better line no matter what. And RLM will always be an indication of sharp money, and a case can be made that it is actually MORE relevant in a sharper market.
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                          • innovation
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-27-12
                            • 6218

                            #83
                            someone's getting run lined at the big A tonight
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                            • funnyb25
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-09-09
                              • 39663

                              #84
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              On a side note, NFL Preseason plays looking good early
                              yup...1-1 eagles were easy
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                              • funnyb25
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-09-09
                                • 39663

                                #85
                                Indians Over, Twins Under
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  BTCL and RLM will never be irrelevant simply because of what they mean. Beating closing line is never a bad thing for reasons already discussed, a "sharper" market does nothing to change that. In other words, a better line is a better line no matter what. And RLM will always be an indication of sharp money, and a case can be made that it is actually MORE relevant in a sharper market.
                                  You are operating under the assumption that all line movement is true/based on money coming in, and there is no manipulation of lines by certain books.

                                  In sports gambling.

                                  In 2016.

                                  Do me a favor: track "RLM." I dare you.
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                                  • tecmoslayer
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-07-14
                                    • 528

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    Twins / Royals OVER 9 -115 (Heritage)
                                    Cant seem to ever win following your plays
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                                    • paco
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-07-09
                                      • 62873

                                      #88
                                      Gl lt
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by tecmoslayer
                                        Cant seem to ever win following your plays
                                        So cap your own games?
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                                        • survive
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-08-11
                                          • 2388

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                          You are operating under the assumption that all line movement is true/based on money coming in, and there is no manipulation of lines by certain books.

                                          In sports gambling.

                                          In 2016.

                                          Do me a favor: track "RLM." I dare you.
                                          Pretty good debate here. Agree with LT on beating the closer, agree with coiner on rlm.
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by survive
                                            Pretty good debate here. Agree with LT on beating the closer, agree with coiner on rlm.
                                            I'm not going to dispute the idea that BTCL is profitable from a "losing less" standpoint. That's about the only point I'll concede on it these days, though. "Losing less" doesn't = winning more.
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                              I'm not going to dispute the idea that BTCL is profitable from a "losing less" standpoint. That's about the only point I'll concede on it these days, though. "Losing less" doesn't = winning more.
                                              honestly, it's been a strange year in mlb. moves that were money for several years are just not working this year. do you think books caught on? juiced balls?
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                                              • mohye1980
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-25-14
                                                • 2363

                                                #93
                                                Does this guy ever win?
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by tecmoslayer
                                                  Cant seem to ever win following your plays
                                                  Didn't lose either.
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                    "Losing less" doesn't = winning more.
                                                    Yes it does if you finish the year in the black. You will have won more by "losing less" on your losses OR you may not have won at all without the good BTCL rate.
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                                                    • LT Profits
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                      • 90963

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by mohye1980
                                                      Does this guy ever win?
                                                      Down peanuts after 700+ plays, I'd say I had many winning nights this year.
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