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  • doubledime
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-22-09
    • 9751

    #1471
    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
    I actually doubled up with the KC tt o5. Nice little Labor Day so far.
    Looking back at this game, I wish I would have played the KC TT. You had a crap pitcher for Min who only averages 82 pitches per game, Min's relievers pitched 263 pitches the last 3 days and the wind blowing out.
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    • HeeluvaGuy
      SBR MVP
      • 02-15-14
      • 3449

      #1472
      Originally posted by doubledime
      Looking back at this game, I wish I would have played the KC TT. You had a crap pitcher for Min who only averages 82 pitches per game, Min's relievers pitched 263 pitches the last 3 days and the wind blowing out.
      I should have said something earlier. I don't often make multiple plays in the same game. Can't complain about hitting the game over so easily though.
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      • juicername
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-14-15
        • 6906

        #1473
        Thanks for another great day with the reliever plays DD! If you're thinking about shutting it down, I think you should wait until you have at least 3-4 consecutive losing days rather than just 2!
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        • Fabiodog
          SBR Sharp
          • 03-17-13
          • 319

          #1474
          True that
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          • doubledime
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-22-09
            • 9751

            #1475
            Originally posted by juicername
            Thanks for another great day with the reliever plays DD! If you're thinking about shutting it down, I think you should wait until you have at least 3-4 consecutive losing days rather than just 2!
            Thanks juice We will be looking at it day to day.
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            • doubledime
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-22-09
              • 9751

              #1476
              Good morning,

              Yesterday

              Regular Plays: No Plays
              YTD: 118-78 +27.60 units

              Reliever Plays: 5-1
              YTD 346-247

              Back later with today's card

              Good luck
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              • doubledime
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-22-09
                • 9751

                #1477
                Good morning,

                Today we have 10 Reliever Plays, the most we have ever had. I tried adding filters to eliminate some and the best I could do was to drop only one play. Remember, these plays ONLY take into account the work/rest/ERA of the bullpen, along with the starting pitcher's average pitch count. Weather, umpire, starters ERA etc. are NOT figured in to the play. My advice is to look at some of those factors before you blindly play so many plays.

                The Reliever Plays for Tuesday:

                Card/Pit over 8.5
                NYM/Reds over 9
                Phils/Mia over 8
                Cubs/Milw over 9
                AZ/LAD over 8
                Hou/Clev over 7.5
                Det/WS over 9.5
                KC/Min over 9
                LAA/Oak over 8.5
                TX/Sea over 8


                Good luck
                Last edited by doubledime; 09-06-16, 10:45 AM.
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                • TechnicalTrader
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-09-16
                  • 1434

                  #1478
                  Originally posted by doubledime
                  Good morning,

                  Today we have 10 Reliever Plays, the most we have ever had. I tried adding filters to eliminate some and the best I could do was to drop only one play. Remember, these plays ONLY take into account the work/rest/ERA of the bullpen, along with the starting pitcher's average pitch count. Weather, umpire, starters ERA etc. are NOT figured in to the play. My advice is to look at some of those factors before you blindly play so many plays.

                  The Reliever Plays for Tuesday:

                  Card/Pit over 8.5
                  NYY/Reds over 9
                  Phils/Mia over 8
                  Cubs/Milw over 9
                  AZ/LAD over 8
                  Hou/Clev over 7.5
                  Det/WS over 9.5
                  KC/Min over 9
                  LAA/Oak over 8.5
                  TX/Sea over 8


                  Good luck
                  Thanks! Typo; NYM/CIN
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                  • Capybara
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-17-08
                    • 11803

                    #1479
                    Originally posted by doubledime
                    Good morning,

                    Yesterday

                    Regular Plays: No Plays
                    YTD: 118-78 +27.60 units

                    Reliever Plays: 5-1
                    YTD 346-247

                    Back later with today's card

                    Good luck
                    I thought I saw eight reliever plays yesterday though. Sorry, I'd check on their record myself but too busy for that. Great job though, whatever the record was.
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                    • doubledime
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 04-22-09
                      • 9751

                      #1480
                      Originally posted by Capybara
                      I thought I saw eight reliever plays yesterday though. Sorry, I'd check on their record myself but too busy for that. Great job though, whatever the record was.
                      You did, two were pushes
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                      • doubledime
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-22-09
                        • 9751

                        #1481
                        Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                        Thanks! Typo; NYM/CIN
                        Thanks, changed it
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                        • thekoreanmang
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-17-14
                          • 1422

                          #1482
                          The Reliever Plays for Tuesday with ump info. Feel free to correct any mistakes. Got the O/U records from Covers (http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/umpires/umpires.html%20).

                          For noobs, the numbers next to each ump represents how many times the ump called a game going over or under the total for the game with the first number representing OVERS and the second number representing UNDERS. The numbers in the parentheses represent the over-under record for the number that doubledime has listed.

                          I bolded the games that seemed favorable to our proposed outcome.

                          I took a quick look at the weather and while I did see some games with wind blowing in/out at certain speeds, I wasn't sure how fast wind should be blowing to make an impact on the game. If anyone can add a layer of weather info to the below that'd be awesome.

                          Card/Pit over 8.5 - Tim Timmons 15-11 (6-0)
                          NYM/Reds over 9 - Nic Lentz 10-11 (0-1)
                          Phils/Mia over 8 - Lance Barrett 11-11 (1-2)
                          Cubs/Milw over 9 - Will Little 10-11 (0-2)
                          AZ/LAD over 8 - Doug Eddings 12-7 (1-2)
                          Hou/Clev over 7.5 - James Hoye 11-6 (1-0 @ 7.5; 2-3 @ 8.5) --> Total moved up from 7.5 to 8.5
                          Det/WS over 9.5 - Tom Hallion 9-14 (0-2)
                          KC/Min over 9 - Chris Segal 2-1 (0-1)
                          LAA/Oak over 8.5 - Ryan Blakney 12-17 (3-4)
                          TX/Sea over 8 - Bob Davidson 12-10 (2-1)


                          Last edited by thekoreanmang; 09-06-16, 02:48 PM.
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                          • doubledime
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-22-09
                            • 9751

                            #1483
                            Originally posted by thekoreanmang
                            The Reliever Plays for Tuesday with ump info. Feel free to correct any mistakes. Got the O/U records from Covers (http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/umpires/umpires.html%20).

                            For noobs, the numbers next to each ump represents how many times the ump called a game going over or under the total for the game with the first number representing OVERS and the second number representing UNDERS. The numbers in the parentheses represent the over-under record for the number that doubledime has listed.

                            I bolded the games that seemed favorable to our proposed outcome.

                            I took a quick look at the weather and while I did see some games with wind blowing in/out at certain speeds, I wasn't sure how fast wind should be blowing to make an impact on the game. If anyone can add a layer of weather info to the below that'd be awesome.

                            Card/Pit over 8.5 - Tim Timmons 15-11 (6-0)
                            NYM/Reds over 9 - Nic Lentz 10-11 (0-1)
                            Phils/Mia over 8 - Lance Barrett 11-11 (1-2)
                            Cubs/Milw over 9 - Will Little 10-11 (0-2)
                            AZ/LAD over 8 - Doug Eddings 12-7 (1-2)
                            Hou/Clev over 7.5 - James Hoye 11-6 (1-0 @ 7.5; 2-3 @ 8.5) --> Total moved up from 7.5 to 8.5
                            Det/WS over 9.5 - Tom Hallion 9-14 (0-2)
                            KC/Min over 9 - Chris Segal 2-1 (0-1)
                            LAA/Oak over 8.5 - Ryan Blakney 12-17 (3-4)
                            TX/Sea over 8 - Bob Davidson 12-10 (2-1)


                            First of all, thanks for your input. Always appreciate it. To drill down even further on umps go to covers and go to MLB and drop down to "scores and matchups" then you'll see a section called trends and if you click that you'll scroll down to the umpire section. Much more detailed.

                            Best place for weather: http://dailybaseballdata.com/cgi-bin/weather.pl
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                            • thekoreanmang
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-17-14
                              • 1422

                              #1484
                              Awesome! Thanks for that! The more you know. I'm still a noob, as well, it seems.

                              DD, would be nice to know which of the reliever plays you decide to play personally. If you don't have time to, no worries. Thanks for all the great info!
                              Last edited by thekoreanmang; 09-06-16, 03:10 PM.
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                              • doubledime
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-22-09
                                • 9751

                                #1485
                                Originally posted by thekoreanmang
                                Awesome! Thanks for that! The more you know. I'm still a noob, as well, it seems.

                                DD, would be nice to know which of the reliever plays you decide to play personally. If you don't have time to, no worries. Thanks for all the great info!
                                Lately I have been pressed for time, at least during the week. I really don't have time to devote to looking at all the factors that I normally would look at. That's one of the reasons I do not have my Regular Plays any more. Normally I would never play this many games in a day, but everyone has to decide for themselves how much per game and how many games, if any, they want to play. DD
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                                • doubledime
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-22-09
                                  • 9751

                                  #1486
                                  Good morning,

                                  Yesterday

                                  Regular Plays: No Plays
                                  YTD: 118-78 +27.60 units

                                  Reliever Plays: 4-6
                                  YTD 350-253

                                  Back later with today's card

                                  Good luck
                                  Last edited by doubledime; 09-07-16, 10:36 AM.
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                                  • doubledime
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-22-09
                                    • 9751

                                    #1487
                                    Good morning,

                                    The Reliever Plays for Wednesday:

                                    Mets/Reds over 8
                                    Cards/Pit over 8
                                    Atl/Was over 8
                                    Phils/Mia over 8
                                    Balt/TB over 7.5
                                    LAA/Oak over 8.5
                                    Hou/Clev over 8.5
                                    KC/Min over 8.5
                                    TX/Seat over 8.5


                                    Good luck
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                                    • jrjay93
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-06-16
                                      • 133

                                      #1488
                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                      Good morning,

                                      Yesterday

                                      Regular Plays: No Plays
                                      YTD: 118-78 +27.60 units

                                      Reliever Plays: 3-7
                                      YTD 349-254

                                      Back later with today's card

                                      Good luck
                                      Don't short yourself DD you actually went 4-6 yesterday
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                                      • doubledime
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-22-09
                                        • 9751

                                        #1489
                                        Originally posted by jrjay93
                                        Don't short yourself DD you actually went 4-6 yesterday
                                        Thanks JJ Senior moment
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                                        • thekoreanmang
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-17-14
                                          • 1422

                                          #1490
                                          The Reliever Plays for Wednesday with ump info. More detailed ump info here (http://www.covers.com/sports/mlb/matchups). Just click on trends for each game. Just wanted to include general ump info for O/U. First number is over and second is for under next to each umps names. Record in parentheses is the O/U record at the actual number doubledime provided.

                                          Based on yesterday's plays and looking at the ump info, I went 2-1. The loss was from a play that I bet blindly without looking at ump info. The two wins were from an over and under play after considering ump info. I'm considering playing the bolded plays below: 1 over and 3 unders.

                                          Mets/Reds over 8 - Mark Ripperger 12-14 (4-3) - OVER WON
                                          Cards/Pit over 8 - Chris Conroy 13-12 (4-1) - Over? - UNDER WON
                                          Atl/Was over 8 - Rob Drake 9-14 (3-3) - Under?
                                          - OVER WON
                                          Phils/Mia over 8 - Pat Hoberg 13-15 (2-1) - UNDER WON
                                          Balt/TB over 7.5 - Fieldin Culbreth 10-12 (2-1) - What a name though! - OVER WON
                                          LAA/Oak over 8.5 - DJ Reyburn 10-13 (2-6) - Under? - UNDER WON
                                          Hou/Clev over 8.5 - Marvin Hudson 11-13 (3-3) - OVER WON
                                          KC/Min over 8.5 - Lance Barksdale 10-16 (2-4) - Under? - OVER WON
                                          TX/Seat over 8.5 - Mike Muchlinkski 13-12 (3-1) - OVER WON

                                          6-3!
                                          Last edited by thekoreanmang; 09-07-16, 11:47 PM.
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                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-15-14
                                            • 3449

                                            #1491
                                            Fellas, we're gonna need a filter for moronic baserunning next year. The Reds have 3 caught stealing already and it's just the 4th inning. Should have had bases loaded with 0 and 1 out the last two innings but pissed it all away.
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                                            • doubledime
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-22-09
                                              • 9751

                                              #1492
                                              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                              Fellas, we're gonna need a filter for moronic baserunning next year. The Reds have 3 caught stealing already and it's just the 4th inning. Should have had bases loaded with 0 and 1 out the last two innings but pissed it all away.
                                              Maybe they should just take more juice so they run faster.
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #1493
                                                Well we finally got there, but not until the Reds had 15 base runners and zero runs. That was crazy. I believe the record is 19 base runners in a shutout. They had a runner on in every inning but only scored 3 runs.
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                                                • doubledime
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-22-09
                                                  • 9751

                                                  #1494
                                                  Good morning,

                                                  Yesterday

                                                  Regular Plays: No Plays
                                                  YTD: 118-78 +27.60 units

                                                  Reliever Plays: 6-3
                                                  YTD 356-256

                                                  Back later with today's card

                                                  Good luck
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                                                  • doubledime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-22-09
                                                    • 9751

                                                    #1495
                                                    Good morning

                                                    The Reliever Plays for Thursday:

                                                    Phils/Wash over 8.5
                                                    Reds/Pit over 8
                                                    Hou/Clev over 8
                                                    TB/NYY over 8.5
                                                    TX/Sea over 8.5


                                                    Good luck
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                      • 1434

                                                      #1496
                                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                                      Good morning

                                                      The Reliever Plays for Thursday:

                                                      Phils/Wash over 8.5
                                                      Reds/Pit over 8
                                                      Hou/Clev over 8
                                                      TB/NYY over 8.5
                                                      TX/Sea over 8.5


                                                      Good luck
                                                      Keep up the great work boss! Way to bounce back yesterday.
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                                                      • doubledime
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-22-09
                                                        • 9751

                                                        #1497
                                                        Good morning,

                                                        Last night we achieved what I never thought possible by using just one angle in handicapping, we have 100 more wins than losses over 612 games. (58.17%) I only wish I would have discovered this 40 years ago.

                                                        DD
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                                                        • juicername
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 10-14-15
                                                          • 6906

                                                          #1498
                                                          Originally posted by doubledime
                                                          Good morning

                                                          The Reliever Plays for Thursday:

                                                          Phils/Wash over 8.5
                                                          Reds/Pit over 8
                                                          Hou/Clev over 8
                                                          TB/NYY over 8.5
                                                          TX/Sea over 8.5


                                                          Good luck
                                                          Wee, managed to nail them all before you posted. Some nice wind blowing out in Cleveland and Pittsburgh as well.
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                                                          • doubledime
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 04-22-09
                                                            • 9751

                                                            #1499
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                                                            TechnicalTrader gave doubledime 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.
                                                            juicername gave doubledime 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.
                                                            Thank you
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                                                            • doubledime
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 04-22-09
                                                              • 9751

                                                              #1500
                                                              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                              Keep up the great work boss! Way to bounce back yesterday.
                                                              Thanks TT Always appreciate your support.
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                                                              • doubledime
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-22-09
                                                                • 9751

                                                                #1501
                                                                Originally posted by juicername
                                                                Wee, managed to nail them all before you posted. Some nice wind blowing out in Cleveland and Pittsburgh as well.
                                                                That's good, now do you know the one that just missed the cut?
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                                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                                  • 3449

                                                                  #1502
                                                                  Originally posted by doubledime
                                                                  Good morning,

                                                                  Last night we achieved what I never thought possible by using just one angle in handicapping, we have 100 more wins than losses over 612 games. (58.17%) I only wish I would have discovered this 40 years ago.

                                                                  DD
                                                                  Awesome and congrats. Funny thing is, this angle wouldn't have worked until relatively recently. 40 years ago, starting pitchers actually pitched!

                                                                  On a side note, I do think there is some potential risk here with expanded rosters. Last night, for example, the Dodgers used 4 different pitchers against 4 consecutive Arizona batters. I could see this situation becoming more common for teams in tight playoff races. Just a thought.
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                                                                  • doubledime
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-22-09
                                                                    • 9751

                                                                    #1503
                                                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    Awesome and congrats. Funny thing is, this angle wouldn't have worked until relatively recently. 40 years ago, starting pitchers actually pitched!

                                                                    On a side note, I do think there is some potential risk here with expanded rosters. Last night, for example, the Dodgers used 4 different pitchers against 4 consecutive Arizona batters. I could see this situation becoming more common for teams in tight playoff races. Just a thought.
                                                                    Good points. "Back in the day" starters would go 8 or 9 unless they got rocked early. Those were the days when you capped a game based almost solely on the starter.

                                                                    TT brought the expanded roster up earlier. Also a good point. On the other side of the coin, some managers (like the Cubs) are not going to use their ace relievers as much so they are rested for the playoffs. It's certainly something to keep in mind, however.
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                                                                    • juicername
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-14-15
                                                                      • 6906

                                                                      #1504
                                                                      Originally posted by doubledime
                                                                      That's good, now do you know the one that just missed the cut?
                                                                      That ones easy, TB/NYY! Actually, looking closer I'm surprised it's not a play now. Guess one reason is Sabathia's capability to throw a lot of pitches?

                                                                      EDIT: Lol that is a play ... Only two games to choose from then, I'm gonna go with MIL/STL .
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                                                                      • Capybara
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 08-17-08
                                                                        • 11803

                                                                        #1505
                                                                        So has anyone been playing (or tracking) the 2H's in Bookmaker with DD's reliever plays??? I only played a few myself, but I'm dying to know how they've done -- I mean they must be crushing at either the same or a better percentage, right, how could they not?! Anyone?
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