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  • Formulawiz
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    • 01-12-09
    • 1589

    #736
    Originally posted by ButtoMcFarty
    Horrendous day for the PT picks yesterday
    PT45 1-10
    PT60 2-9

    Overall since AllStar break with no filters:
    FB30 229-188
    BB30 76-56 (went 1-6 yesterday)
    FB99 231-194
    PT45 189-141
    PT60 179-127
    Home PT60 138-94
    Home PT60+PT45 123-84

    Nothing running above .6 win% at this point....a bit disappointing....
    Lots of season left though so we'll see how it finishes up.
    Butto, I dont have the slightest idea as to what your doing with the PT system.
    If you used 30 days and went with all the plays no matter what the ML was, then you would have gone 5-2, picking up 2.1 units. This is the way the PT system should be used and you would have a nice winning day. LAD, ARI, CLE, DET, NYY, BOS and SEA were all the plays.

    As far as BB that went 4-2 and you would have made 1.1 units.
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    • peterpan19
      Restricted User
      • 11-02-08
      • 3377

      #737
      today we have
      NYY and MIN

      GL
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      • ButtoMcFarty
        SBR Rookie
        • 07-14-09
        • 27

        #738
        Originally posted by Formulawiz
        Butto, I dont have the slightest idea as to what your doing with the PT system.
        If you used 30 days and went with all the plays no matter what the ML was, then you would have gone 5-2, picking up 2.1 units. This is the way the PT system should be used and you would have a nice winning day. LAD, ARI, CLE, DET, NYY, BOS and SEA were all the plays.

        As far as BB that went 4-2 and you would have made 1.1 units.
        Those are the plays you have for 8/27?
        I went and ran PT(30Day) for 8/27...
        I got:

        FLA
        CIN
        STL
        COL
        PHI
        SF
        NYY
        CLE
        BOS
        SEA
        AA

        for 8/26:
        PHI
        FLA
        STL
        COL
        SF
        CLE
        NYY
        BOS
        MIN
        SEA

        These picks are from the Pythagorem Theorem System on the FB software.

        Obviously there is a difference.
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        • ButtoMcFarty
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-14-09
          • 27

          #739
          Every day I download the fb-pitch.dat and fastball.dat file from the sportrends website.

          Then I overwrite the previous day's data files with the new ones and run the FB software.

          Am I doing something incorrect?
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          • Formulawiz
            Restricted User
            • 01-12-09
            • 1589

            #740
            Originally posted by ButtoMcFarty
            Every day I download the fb-pitch.dat and fastball.dat file from the sportrends website.

            Then I overwrite the previous day's data files with the new ones and run the FB software.

            Am I doing something incorrect?
            Little mix up I was talking about yesterday's records. Also are you using the filters in place. There seems to be too many plays. I think you need to go back and check, most of those games are dropped out.
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            • Joe Dogs
              SBR MVP
              • 07-20-09
              • 1931

              #741
              Does anyone have the best bet number's for unit's won with this system.
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              • Formulawiz
                Restricted User
                • 01-12-09
                • 1589

                #742
                Originally posted by ButtoMcFarty
                Every day I download the fb-pitch.dat and fastball.dat file from the sportrends website.

                Then I overwrite the previous day's data files with the new ones and run the FB software.

                Am I doing something incorrect?
                Butto without flters did you get 8-1 PT and 3-0 BB yesterday
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #743
                  Originally posted by Joe Dogs
                  Does anyone have the best bet number's for unit's won with this system.
                  Joe, BB is the only system I have kept a record of since May 15.
                  Win/Loss record YTD is 150-99, 60.24%, +28.95 Units and ROI 8.02

                  I have the record also on a monthly bases.

                  May- 23-11, 67.65%, +4.25 units
                  June- 34-27, 55.74%, +3.25 units
                  July- 49-29, 62.82%, +15.8 units
                  Aug- 44-32, 57.9%, -0.05 units
                  Aug is always a tough month with the ML's so high and we have no idea of team strategies. Sometimes they lose to certain teams so they dont have to face teams they don't match up well with.
                  Thats the story
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                  • peterpan19
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-02-08
                    • 3377

                    #744
                    todays plays
                    PHI and SF
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                    • Joe Dogs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-20-09
                      • 1931

                      #745
                      [quote=Formulawiz;2173320]Joe, BB is the only system I have kept a record of since May 15.
                      Win/Loss record YTD is 150-99, 60.24%, +28.95 Units


                      Thanks Formulawiz

                      +28.95 units


                      Definitely going to look into fastball package next your.
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                      • ButtoMcFarty
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 07-14-09
                        • 27

                        #746
                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                        Butto without flters did you get 8-1 PT and 3-0 BB yesterday
                        That matches exactly to my results.

                        I'm not using any filters on the #s I've been posting. I'm simply tracking the raw output of the software.

                        Obviously if there was real $$ involved I wouldn't be playing all the sw picks.
                        Blind faith is a fool's game imho.

                        Every day I fill in an excel sheet with the day's picks using different day settings.
                        To my mind....theoretically....the more past data included the more accurate the picks should be....
                        Theory ain't reality though.

                        You said the PT module of the software is designed to be used with 30 days as the data. I didn't read that anywhere in the docs. I've been tracking various day settings....as the sw allows that setting to be changed. If the PT module is only meant to be used with 30 days worth of data I would think the option to change wouldn't be available.

                        Regardless....yesterday's results match....so I have to believe we are both using the sw properly.

                        Haven't finished running through today's picks.....we're getting into playoff drive time....some teams have a reason to play...some have packed it in....I'm hoping to see that reflected in the sw's performance down the stretch.

                        I don't think I would pick anyone against STL right now.....they got it going on right now.

                        Have a good day all.
                        Good luck!
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                        • ButtoMcFarty
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 07-14-09
                          • 27

                          #747
                          Here's what I've got after updating yesterday's games.

                          All #s are from All Star Break and have no filters:

                          FB30 243-196
                          BB30 83-58
                          FB99 245-206
                          PT45 204-146 (9-2 yesterday)
                          PT60 195-134 (10-3 yesterday)

                          HomePT30 151-99 (7-3 yesterday)
                          HomePT30 & PT45 136-88 (7-2 yesterday)

                          Have a good day all.
                          Good luck!
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                          • Formulawiz
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-12-09
                            • 1589

                            #748
                            Originally posted by ButtoMcFarty
                            Here's what I've got after updating yesterday's games.

                            All #s are from All Star Break and have no filters:

                            FB30 243-196
                            BB30 83-58
                            FB99 245-206
                            PT45 204-146 (9-2 yesterday)
                            PT60 195-134 (10-3 yesterday)

                            HomePT30 151-99 (7-3 yesterday)
                            HomePT30 & PT45 136-88 (7-2 yesterday)

                            Have a good day all.
                            Good luck!
                            Looking at todays games without filters BB 5-1 and PT 6-3
                            Butto did you get the same results
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                            • ButtoMcFarty
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 07-14-09
                              • 27

                              #749
                              Originally posted by Formulawiz
                              Looking at todays games without filters BB 5-1 and PT 6-3
                              Butto did you get the same results
                              I got BB at 5-1...PT at 7-4 with the default 30 day setting.

                              PT45 9-3
                              PT60 10-3
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                              • Formulawiz
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 1589

                                #750
                                Nice win yesterday with SF and PHI
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                                • peterpan19
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-02-08
                                  • 3377

                                  #751
                                  nothing today guys
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                                  • Formulawiz
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 1589

                                    #752
                                    I believe we have HOU and BOS

                                    I will be posting college and pro football power rating spreadsheets later today. Should I keep them both together under one thread or separate them under 2 separate thread.
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                                    • Cranium
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-05-08
                                      • 363

                                      #753
                                      Do what's easiest for you Wiz! Thanks for doing it!
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                                      • peterpan19
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-02-08
                                        • 3377

                                        #754
                                        yes hou it is...bos is also a very close call but not an official play onl .9 but still very good

                                        GL
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                                        • Formulawiz
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 1589

                                          #755
                                          Originally posted by peterpan19
                                          yes hou it is...bos is also a very close call but not an official play onl .9 but still very good

                                          GL
                                          BOS was fine at -151. How about BB 2-0 and PT 5-1
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                                          • peterpan19
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 11-02-08
                                            • 3377

                                            #756
                                            I guess no plays today...
                                            And bos was only .9 and not 1 thats why it was unofficial
                                            GL
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                                            • Formulawiz
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-12-09
                                              • 1589

                                              #757
                                              New College and Pro Football Power Rating Spreadsheets

                                              I have started a new thread under NFL called New college and Pro Football Power Ratings and uploaded both Sportrends college and Pro spreadsheets along with the rules and filters. If Anyone has any filters they would like to add please list them.
                                              For those of you who have difficulty running the Excel spreadsheet go to sportrends website and the power ratings are listed there. It looks like the software's PR's can only be obtained if you buy the software. I also noticed they have something new on their website for handicapping college and pro football in which they make picks. I dont know what criteria they are using but I will be watching it very closely.
                                              Peter, Will you have the time to run the thread by placing the picks up. I think we should follow both the PR's and the new system sportrends is using.
                                              Anyway good luck.
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                                              • Formulawiz
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 1589

                                                #758
                                                The plays today are ATL, NYY and SEA
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                                                • peterpan19
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                  • 3377

                                                  #759
                                                  plays are correct today
                                                  I will try to post the PR picks for nfl and cfb
                                                  GL
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                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 1589

                                                    #760
                                                    Nice day, TPR system went 2-1
                                                    Unbelievable start for sportrends college football
                                                    College Football - The PR system went 1-0 and I guess Ill call the new system F&LA went 3-1. Overall a 4-1 day.
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                                                    • WhatAboutMeBitch
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-02-09
                                                      • 1294

                                                      #761
                                                      nice day!
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                                                      • Formulawiz
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 1589

                                                        #762
                                                        Looks like NYY and SEA
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                                                        • peterpan19
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-02-08
                                                          • 3377

                                                          #763
                                                          nyy and sea today

                                                          GL
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                                                          • peterpan19
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-02-08
                                                            • 3377

                                                            #764
                                                            ok 1-1 day... I will update the overall record in a bit...

                                                            GL
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                                                            • peterpan19
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 11-02-08
                                                              • 3377

                                                              #765
                                                              overall record so far is 52-35 +14.05 units
                                                              favs only 42-17 +18.75
                                                              dogs only 10-18 -4.70

                                                              Aug record was 35-25 +7.9 units
                                                              favs only 29-11 +13.75
                                                              dogs only 6-14 -5.85

                                                              so it looks like it makes no sense to play dogs anymore... but we will monitor it and hopefully we will be back next year again...

                                                              GL
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                                                              • Formulawiz
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-12-09
                                                                • 1589

                                                                #766
                                                                Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                                overall record so far is 52-35 +14.05 units
                                                                favs only 42-17 +18.75
                                                                dogs only 10-18 -4.70

                                                                Aug record was 35-25 +7.9 units
                                                                favs only 29-11 +13.75
                                                                dogs only 6-14 -5.85

                                                                so it looks like it makes no sense to play dogs anymore... but we will monitor it and hopefully we will be back next year again...

                                                                GL
                                                                Its obvious if we did not play dogs we would be up 32.5 units. Thats pretty impressive. Not too many services out there could match this.

                                                                Secondly, the BB system is on fire this month. For the year I believe we are up 37.2 units and with a win/loss record of 162-102, 61.4%

                                                                I have not kept a record of the PT system since its all new to me.
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                                                                • peterpan19
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                                  • 3377

                                                                  #767
                                                                  SF and LAA are plays today...

                                                                  GL, but remember SF is a dog today...
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                                                                  • peterpan19
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-02-08
                                                                    • 3377

                                                                    #768
                                                                    formula
                                                                    we would be up 18.75 units overall and we would hit around 70% with favs only... its not 32.5 units.... that was the overall record (end of July until now) and just the record for August...

                                                                    but still 18.75 units is not bad...and almost 14 units in August was pretty good...and remember I use closing lines and most of the time the favs went up... so getting play early probably save you 1 unit in vig in August alone...
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                                                                    • peterpan19
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                                      • 3377

                                                                      #769
                                                                      both plays won... of course we will track the dogs...and I will look a bit closer at what kind of dogs we had plays on, but I would think any team that is in the playoff hunt and is a dog, should be a play...
                                                                      lets see what I kind find

                                                                      GL
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                                                                      • peterpan19
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 11-02-08
                                                                        • 3377

                                                                        #770
                                                                        ok so I looked at the data again... and I was right about what I thought that you can find a trend on the dogs... I would say that dogs upto 140 are ok... because the record on pretty big dogs 140+ is only 2-9... record for dogs 140 and below is 9-9 + 2 units.... so they actually have a chance to win... so this week so far we are 5-3 +1.9... if we eliminate the one huge underdog we played this week with HOU on Tuesday we would be a bit better...
                                                                        our official overall record is at 54-35 (60.67 %) +16.05 units
                                                                        modified we could be 52-26 (66.66%) +21.75 units...
                                                                        I mean the season is almost over and I will keep the official record with all official plays until the season is over but I would like to make sure that everyone knows that betting dogs bigger than 140 is not profitable at all... we have 3 more weeks to see how it does and hopefully we will be back next year again with it right from the start (mid May as usual...)...

                                                                        todays picks to follow later on...
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