2013 MLB thread

[Jago2008]

551-565, +89.02U thread

Great year No Coin, I remember previous years, this has got to be one of your best years, am I correct?

Just goes to show with proper bankroll management and sharp insight one can beat the books significantly while hitting close to 50% in baseball. That's why I love this sport, you always have to assume any given team will win 60 games, and the juice can be deceiving...

Good luck moving forward.

[EXhoosier10]

Coin, you have any thoughts on Salazar? He's been lights out in AA, AAA, and the show this year. K's abound with just a few walks. Rays are one of the lower K% and high BB% offenses in the league, which should mean they get to the Cleveland bullpen a bit earlier than normal. Salazar is going ~ 5 IP / start... Cleveland's pen potentially has masterson in it.

First glance, i think the line is fair at -110/+100

[EXhoosier10]

LAD / ATL,

Medlen is lights out v righties and Crawford/Agon are the only to LHH that dodgers have. Atlanta can throw all righties against kershaw and turn him into a 3.2 ERA guy instead of a 2.5. Bats look about even, maybe slight edge LAD before factoring in the SP. Bullpen advantage has to go to ATL.

Think i'm leaning Atlanta in that one @ +138

[No coincidences]

Great year No Coin, I remember previous years, this has got to be one of your best years, am I correct?

Just goes to show with proper bankroll management and sharp insight one can beat the books significantly while hitting close to 50% in baseball. That's why I love this sport, you always have to assume any given team will win 60 games, and the juice can be deceiving...

Good luck moving forward.

My previous best MLB season was about +45, so as long as I don't bury myself in the playoffs, yes, this is the best. Last year I was about -30.

[No coincidences]

Coin, you have any thoughts on Salazar? He's been lights out in AA, AAA, and the show this year. K's abound with just a few walks. Rays are one of the lower K% and high BB% offenses in the league, which should mean they get to the Cleveland bullpen a bit earlier than normal. Salazar is going ~ 5 IP / start... Cleveland's pen potentially has masterson in it.

First glance, i think the line is fair at -110/+100

Interesting game. I think Salazar could get chased relatively early if the Rays make him work and up his pitch count quickly, which I anticipate they will.

Does Masterson have any experience coming out of the bullpen in his career?

Hard to fade the Rays on paper vs. anyone.

[No coincidences]

LAD / ATL,

Medlen is lights out v righties and Crawford/Agon are the only to LHH that dodgers have. Atlanta can throw all righties against kershaw and turn him into a 3.2 ERA guy instead of a 2.5. Bats look about even, maybe slight edge LAD before factoring in the SP. Bullpen advantage has to go to ATL.

Think i'm leaning Atlanta in that one @ +138

I won't have any series play, but me too. Plus, the Mattingly factor -- I can't see that hamburger getting a team to the World Series.

I'd lean ATL over LAD and OAK over DET if I had to make a wager.

[BiffTFinancial]

Interesting game. I think Salazar could get chased relatively early if the Rays make him work and up his pitch count quickly, which I anticipate they will.

Does Masterson have any experience coming out of the bullpen in his career?

Hard to fade the Rays on paper vs. anyone.

Masterson had a number of relief appearances early in his career (when Francona was his manager in Boston). I really hope that what I hear is true, that Francona's plan is to essentially split the wild card game start between Salazar and then Masterson, figuring that should give him 7-8 decent innings, and then another 8 arms in the pen to play match-ups as Francona sees fit. Masterson has looked outstanding his last few couple of appearances.

Totally agree that Rays are tough match-up for Salazar, and Rays are probably the right side. Definite no-play for me. I have a bunch of units on the emotional ML.

[No coincidences]

Seems like the books are begging for Reds money.

[Rose']

Seems like the books are begging for Reds money.

You making a live bet or just enjoying the game? Liriano looks sharp

[No coincidences]

You making a live bet or just enjoying the game? Liriano looks sharp

No bet for me tonight.

Might be on the Rays again tomorrow. We'll see.

[No coincidences]

Cokehead Ron and Dusty cut from the same cloth.

He pitches Cueto and Marshall -- who were basically MIA due to injury until September -- in the team's biggest game of the year.

[EXhoosier10]

Cokehead Ron and Dusty cut from the same cloth.

He pitches Cueto and Marshall -- who were basically MIA due to injury until September -- in the team's biggest game of the year.

I seriously hope Jocketty resigns dusty after next year. it'll be good to know that in the prime of joey votto's career, the reds have an incompetent manager to blow things up when the cubs start getting back into things

[No coincidences]

I seriously hope Jocketty resigns dusty after next year. it'll be good to know that in the prime of joey votto's career, the reds have an incompetent manager to blow things up when the cubs start getting back into things

It's incredible.

Like I said, this team should be hitting its peak. Instead, you get, well, this.

Will Theo hire Girardi?

[EXhoosier10]

It's incredible.

Like I said, this team should be hitting its peak. Instead, you get, well, this.

Will Theo hire Girardi?

Don't really know. last i heard is yankees haven't given permission to hire him. And tbh, with Matheny, Mattingly, Dusty, and Washington all "making" the playoffs, I'm even more skeptical of a manager making a big difference. I vote for either a stats guy (whether Girardi fits that mold, idk) or someone who can make Castro hit. In 2015/'16, we aren't winning unless Castro/Rizzo each hit .290+. If only I knew what that takes

[TheMLBKing]

Classic no coincidences, talking up the reds because they're the underdog, but not betting them apparently.

[EXhoosier10]

have to quote this

Classic no coincidences, talking up the reds because they're the underdog, but not betting them apparently.

I don't think coin said a single positive about the reds this game. back on ignore and no longer responding

[Jago2008]

My previous best MLB season was about +45, so as long as I don't bury myself in the playoffs, yes, this is the best. Last year I was about -30.

You've demonstrated good control throughout the year I can't imagine that will happen, good luck.

[No coincidences]

You've demonstrated good control throughout the year I can't imagine that will happen, good luck.

Well, I haven't been out of control re: chases and bet sizes, but I've played way too many games.

I like the postseason because I can concentrate on a few isolated games per night instead of trying to sift through a 15-game card. A lot easier to cap that way.

Good luck to you as well.

[No coincidences]

Don't really know. last i heard is yankees haven't given permission to hire him. And tbh, with Matheny, Mattingly, Dusty, and Washington all "making" the playoffs, I'm even more skeptical of a manager making a big difference. I vote for either a stats guy (whether Girardi fits that mold, idk) or someone who can make Castro hit. In 2015/'16, we aren't winning unless Castro/Rizzo each hit .290+. If only I knew what that takes

I heard A.J. Hinch today.

I agree re: the actual influence and difference a manager makes. Highly overrated -- especially during the regular season.

[TheMLBKing]

have to quote this


I don't think coin said a single positive about the reds this game. back on ignore and no longer responding

Maybe you should open your eyes.

[No coincidences]

have to quote this


I don't think coin said a single positive about the reds this game. back on ignore and no longer responding

Something tells me someone is struggling with reading comprehension.

When I say "books are begging for Reds money," what does that mean to you?

Apparently to some posters, it means I'm "talking up the Reds."

Obsession always seems to sap a poster of common sense. That's what I've come to learn through the years.

[Gee]

Don't you want to bet on the side the books are begging for?

I thought he should have called you a pussy for not laying the -1 +120 after talking up the Pirates.

ps. I didn't pull the trigger either, but damn. The message was obvious.

[2daBank]

Something tells me someone is struggling with reading comprehension.

When I say "books are begging for Reds money," what does that mean to you?

Apparently to some posters, it means I'm "talking up the Reds."

Obsession always seems to sap a poster of common sense. That's what I've come to learn through the years.

that is making a huge assumption to say that scrub had any common sense to begin with..

man i guess my faith in liriano would have been better served betting pit that playing the damn under who woulda thought russel martin would hit 2 damn hrs tho?

pit/cards series outta be rather easy..chase cards for a win in stl (hopefully wont be a chase and they win 2), pound liriano at home vs cards in gm 3, bet cards rest of series after that..boom....

[Jago2008]

that is making a huge assumption to say that scrub had any common sense to begin with..

man i guess my faith in liriano would have been better served betting pit that playing the damn under who woulda thought russel martin would hit 2 damn hrs tho?

pit/cards series outta be rather easy..chase cards for a win in stl (hopefully wont be a chase and they win 2), pound liriano at home vs cards in gm 3, bet cards rest of series after that..boom....

This Pirates/STL series is going to be great. I have to be honest though, I was on the Pirates last night and I feel there is something special about this team. They almost remind of previous St. Louis Cardinals world series teams: scrappy, have speed, play defense, and have power, good pitching.

[2daBank]

This Pirates/STL series is going to be great. I have to be honest though, I was on the Pirates last night and I feel there is something special about this team. They almost remind of previous St. Louis Cardinals world series teams: scrappy, have speed, play defense, and have power, good pitching.

i should have been on pit, knew they would win, but didnt like the juice when i thought it would go under as well, my mistake.. yea buccos scrappy but thing is cards have all those traits as well and they better at it (minus the speed but they much better hitters overall)..if they had to see liriano twice i would take pit to win the series but only once so im not too worried,, either way im sure that ill be up playing for cards to win 1 in stl then betting liriano vs us in gm 3..after that we just have to see, i agree should be a great series and i will admit even tho i knew pit would win that gm i would have much rather been playing the reds..

[No coincidences]

Don't you want to bet on the side the books are begging for?

I thought he should have called you a pussy for not laying the -1 +120 after talking up the Pirates.

ps. I didn't pull the trigger either, but damn. The message was obvious.

Yeah, completely missed the point. But whatever.

[No coincidences]

that is making a huge assumption to say that scrub had any common sense to begin with..

man i guess my faith in liriano would have been better served betting pit that playing the damn under who woulda thought russel martin would hit 2 damn hrs tho?

pit/cards series outta be rather easy..chase cards for a win in stl (hopefully wont be a chase and they win 2), pound liriano at home vs cards in gm 3, bet cards rest of series after that..boom....

Yeah, I just don't think Pittsburgh is going to be able to keep up when all is said and done.

I'm changing my tune re: DET/OAK too, Banker. I think you're getting a nice + number for a reason with the A's, and the Tigers eventually prevail.

[No coincidences]

This Pirates/STL series is going to be great. I have to be honest though, I was on the Pirates last night and I feel there is something special about this team. They almost remind of previous St. Louis Cardinals world series teams: scrappy, have speed, play defense, and have power, good pitching.

I don't trust Pittsburgh's makeshift bullpen. At all. They had a fluke, 2012 Baltimore-ish type of season.

[Ralphie1412]

Do the rays get it done tonight again N.C?

[2daBank]

Yeah, I just don't think Pittsburgh is going to be able to keep up when all is said and done.

I'm changing my tune re: DET/OAK too, Banker. I think you're getting a nice + number for a reason with the A's, and the Tigers eventually prevail.

it already down to +135,,hopefully i get put in a spot where i can take det or figure something out cause i really dont know, i just lov me some oak, they been my cash cow last few years so have a emotional attachment i guess, certainly wouldnt shock me if det pitchers dominated, i do think A's scrappy enough to make it a series tho...

right now im more worried bout tribe/cards ml parlay. tribe rl/cards parlay. under 7/cards rl parlay...lol

[2daBank]

Do the rays get it done tonight again N.C?

hope not..

[Louisvillekid1]

unreal year

[TheMLBKing]

Yeah, completely missed the point. But whatever.

Pirates overachieved like crazy. Liriano and the bullpen are a ? to say the least; a bunch of recycled bums who suddenly found religion in Pirate jerseys. Melancon's late-season meltdown a perfect example of the long-overdue correction.

Problem is, do you trust Dusty? Ron Washington Redux Tuesday night.

Reds a much better team talent wise, but Dusty will choke on his toothpick when the pressure is on.

I'm just passing.

GL Boss.

yeah bro you weren't talking up the reds at all. Try lifting a weight once in a while instead of making 100 posts on this site everyday, it would do you some good.

[face]

This Pirates/STL series is going to be great. I have to be honest though, I was on the Pirates last night and I feel there is something special about this team. They almost remind of previous St. Louis Cardinals world series teams: scrappy, have speed, play defense, and have power, good pitching.

man i am starting to get this feeling too. have cardinals futures but +143 for the series has me thinking. in baseball you can't fade the hot lucky team. kind of think these teams are pretty evenly matched. i'm not a pirate fan at all, but they may have the magic like you say

[2daBank]

yeah bro you weren't talking up the reds at all. Try lifting a weight once in a while instead of making 100 posts on this site everyday, it would do you some good.

go die already you sorry sack of shit,,how the fukk you know who the hell "lifts a weight", not that it means shit but there no fuckin way you can come close to me in the gym..i know this cause real mf'ers dont act like you on a message board, fukkin phoney ass coward...why you here? you the biggest joke at this place, only time you let your little nuts hang and take a position you couldnt be more wrong, hell you missed a gm you didnt post till the 4th qrtr last week then of coarse back tracked and lied about that. so pathetic, so god damn ignorant you are incapable of adding to any conversation, hopefully your family dead so they dont have to look at you, now do us all a courtesy and die yourself so we spared reading your bitch boy remarks, you think any real man doesnt read you r shit and know exactly what kinda punk you are?