Nadal vs Djokovic - Here we go!

tevari · 06-10-12, 12:49 PM

I'm highly doubting they play any more.

Ron29301 · 06-10-12, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Weather should not be an excuse when you are a good tennis player. Play in any weather and don't let it affect you. Not affecting Djokovic. He usually comes back in the 3rd set no matter what the weather is anyway or who he's playing.

Exactly.

Demonata · 06-10-12, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Cheme82

Agree. They are by far the best conditioned athletes in tennis right now. I meant it in general. Rafa is the best athlete in all his matches except when he's playing against Novak. I don't think either one has an advantage in that department.

Novak just does not lose confidence like Nadal does. Novak does not care how much he's down etc.

shari91 · 06-10-12, 12:52 PM

Keep in mind though, Nadal was also complaining last year at the US Open about the weather. Him, Roddick and Murray went into the US Open ref's office together furious that they were forced to risk injury so the tournament could be broadcast on ESPN2. So while I think a big part of his frustration is because he lost the 3rd set, he's been concerned about playing in crappy conditions for awhile now.

"It's the same old story. All you think about is money," Nadal told Earley when the referee came out on Ashe to see if the court was playable. Nadal said this loud enough for the courtside mikes to pick up. By Nadal's standards, this amounted to a tirade.

Cheme82 · 06-10-12, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

I am never one to count Djokovic out. Nothing is set in stone Djokovic couldn't come back.

Me neither, the dude is probably the toughest out in tennis. But as impresive as his last year and a half has been, Nadal's domination of this tournament has been more impressive and four times as long.

Luca Fury · 06-10-12, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by secretstash

since u never quoted a +ml and only a -ml I guess I have nothing else to go by.

next time please state the dog ml too

-stash

No worries, sorry that I got a little defensive when you accused me of being wrong. I just KNOW that I saw those lines an dgot a little irritated. I pulled an all nighter to see this match, so I'm a little (lot) grumpy.

As for the dog price, I was gonna say "wish I would have hit Djoker when he was ____" but don't remember at all what his price was. At the time, I was wanting to bet a little more on Nadal and was trying to get him at a decent price, so I was focusing solely on his line the whole time. I remember exactly what they were, but can't remember for the life of me what Djokovic's price was.

sportfan · 06-10-12, 12:55 PM

plz stop the rain , i don't want to wake up at 3 in the morning tomorrow

face · 06-10-12, 12:57 PM

nadal/djoker is always a grueling match, let them play in good conditions, too much at stake; i think nadal has right to bitch about it.

Cheme82 · 06-10-12, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by shari91

Yeah I can only imagine Nadal's reaction when he heard they were going back out tonight. But as those guys said, even if they wait until tomorrow the court will still be heavy. Even though I'll lose my ML bets, I really hope Nadal can still pull this off. If he loses this match after being up 2-0 I think it'll royally gut him. Just so scary when Djokovic gets that come back going.

If Novak wins this, I'm afraid Nadal might be ****** for the rest of his career as far as winning majors if Novak stays around. Even if Rafa wins this, he still has a lot of work to do to get his confidence back against him.

MoYaL · 06-10-12, 01:00 PM

Play resumes tommorow .

Luca Fury · 06-10-12, 01:01 PM

I pulled an all nighter to watch and live bet this final... I feel like absolute sh*t, and it if this gets delayed, it will all be for nothing.....

Please, stop raining......

Luca Fury · 06-10-12, 01:01 PM

Nooooooooooooo

yisman · 06-10-12, 01:02 PM

yeah that US Open thing caused a big stink

Luca Fury · 06-10-12, 01:03 PM

Get a god damn roof on the court! Jesus christ, who'd bright idea was it to have an outdoor court with no roof, making it so they're screwed fi it rains? Morons.

yisman · 06-10-12, 01:04 PM

wow all my money at Bovada is tied up on this match and I need to bet more desperately on MLB in order to meet a promo

shari91 · 06-10-12, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by MoYaL

Play resumes tommorow .

Did they announce that? People are heading back to their seats now.

GET A BLOODY ROOF YOU IDIOTS

MoYaL · 06-10-12, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by shari91

Did they announce that? People are heading back to their seats now.

GET A BLOODY ROOF YOU IDIOTS

yep they just did .. on Eurosport .. on game set and mats .

ttwarrior1 · 06-10-12, 01:05 PM

Nadal got screwed even if up 2 to 1. they never should of even started

RGG · 06-10-12, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Luca Fury

Get a god damn roof on the court! Jesus christ, who'd bright idea was it to have an outdoor court with no roof, making it so they're screwed fi it rains? Morons.

They are supposedly doing upgrades/renovations set to be complete in several years. I'd hope they'd include a roof...

shari91 · 06-10-12, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by MoYaL

yep they just did .. on Eurosport .. on game set and mats .

yeah I just heard it... that link of mine died so I must've been refreshing it during then

so frustrating - 1pm Paris time tomorrow. At least that's only 9pm here.

RGG · 06-10-12, 01:08 PM

What time is it starting tomorrow?

MoYaL · 06-10-12, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by shari91

yeah I just heard it... that link of mine died so I must've been refreshing it during then

so frustrating - 1pm Paris time tomorrow. At least that's only 9pm here.

Bed time

sportfan · 06-10-12, 01:09 PM

They are done for the day

paco · 06-10-12, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by shari91

yeah I just heard it... that link of mine died so I must've been refreshing it during then

so frustrating - 1pm Paris time tomorrow. At least that's only 9pm here.

What time is that for us?

shari91 · 06-10-12, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by MoYaL

Bed time

hell yeah! Feels like I just fluked another bet.... figured I'd be up for another hour or two

MoYaL · 06-10-12, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by paco

What time is that for us?

If I ain't wrong thats 7am est .

shari91 · 06-10-12, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by paco

What time is that for us?

7am. Not too bad actually.

sportfan · 06-10-12, 01:13 PM

4 am pacific

paco · 06-10-12, 01:15 PM

Thx. I'll actually have something to do at work then on a Monday morning

yisman · 06-10-12, 01:17 PM

be nice if french open would get a roof and replay

move into the 21st century

yisman · 06-10-12, 01:17 PM

well I'm getting up even if it's at 7. it'll screw up my day though.

sportfan · 06-10-12, 01:21 PM

They should play all tennis tourneys indoor

Luca Fury · 06-10-12, 01:22 PM

Nadal will win now. Djokovic was winning cus the clay was wet, he had momentum, found his rhythm, and Nadal was fading. Now, all of those factors are gone. Now it's like we're starting over at set 1, game 1. We all saw how the first 2 sets went...

I'm gonna get up in time for the match tomorrow and live bet Nadal at -200 as soon as live betting is available.

Cheme82 · 06-10-12, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Weather should not be an excuse when you are a good tennis player. Play in any weather and don't let it affect you. Not affecting Djokovic. He usually comes back in the 3rd set no matter what the weather is anyway or who he's playing.

Of course it is a factor, even if you are a great player. The weather changed everything that makes this a strong surface for Nadal, it made it play more like a surface where Novak is a better player. Of course it will not affect Novak negatively, that is a huge help he's getting.

About 8 months ago I was playing a semi-final match on a hard court against a huge hard-hitting player with a lot of top spin. I was getting whooped, he won the first set 6-2 and had me down 3-0 in the middle of the second set when it started to rain and we kept playing. He was up 5-1 and the court was now soaked, it wasn't raining anymore but the court was too wet to play. I asked him if he wanted to finish the next day and he refused to stop. At that point I was more concerned with safety than anything else, the guy was obviously playing way better than me and I was minutes away from being done. I knew he thought he was almost done with me and didn't want to return the next day just to win a game so he was willing to risk injury on either one of us just so he wouldn't have to come out the next day.

That kind of pissed me off so I started taking advantage of the conditions. Hard-hitting players love pace and hate spin (except for top-spin). So I started slicing like a mofo, throwing him backspin shots, moonballs, etc. His shots weren't as penetrating as before because the balls were heavy and the court was playing slow. My slice, on the other hand, was hydroplaning. The pace was much slower now and the ball was staying really low, way lower than his wheelhouse. The guy started getting pissed but his pride wouldn't allow him to call the match and come back the next day to finish me off on a dry court. Of course I wasn't going to say anything about the water, I had given him a chance and he refused so unless he said something I was going to play through the puddles. You guys know the rest, I came back and beat the guy in 3 sets. He broke his racket but shook hands with me with both of us knowing that the only reason I was moving on was the rain coupled with his bad decision making.

Whether at the local courts, the club level, or at the pro level. Wind, rain, cold, hot, it all affects the game. For some players positively, for others not so much.

Cheme82 · 06-10-12, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Well than Nadal needs to train to be able to play in any weather conditions than since Djokovic clearly has.

That makes no sense. It's not that Novak has trained to play in these conditions, it's that the conditions make the court play more like a court in which Novak is superior, and negate all the characteristics that make Clay Rafa's house.

It's like taking home court advantage from a team and claiming it shouldn't matter because they should train to win on the road as well.