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BigPage25SBR MVP
- 04-17-12
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#316yeah that 2nd set was b.s…. looks like the zopp match got cancelledComment -
SirtySreeSBR MVP
- 12-19-13
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#317Match is cancelled apparantly.Originally posted by BigNikHey Matty. Why did the line for Zopp jump so much???Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#318Play #82
Murray + wawrinka 2.00 x 5 units
Play #83
Murray 1st set winner 1.77 x 5 unit
Play #84
Murray 2-0 sets 2.40 x 2 units
*i know Murray hasnt exactly been Lights out lately but his ground strokes in rallies have been decent. Murrays won both his last 2 matches in 3 sets but both his opponents upped there game big time at the right time. Murray still found a way. Raonic has the head to head but I see the talent far greater for Raonic to overcome this time. Raonic struggled somewhat on his service games but managed to get thru them. Murray's definately a step up from the previous opponents. This court also suits Murray better as Raonic will be stuck in many more long rallies that I doubt he can win. Murray 2-0 sets.
*this is also day 3 of the DOG LINES. I expect a lot of chalk to come thru today. The fool me 3 times, I don't think so attitude applys here IMO
Wawrinka should beat a tired andersonComment -
Nyjrkm06SBR Wise Guy
- 01-25-12
- 562
#319Totally agree. GL MattComment -
HardcoarSBR Posting Legend
- 02-17-13
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#320The only thing that worries me as far as Murray's concerned is the odds... @ 1.8 market against f*cking Giraffe!?Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#321Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast thoOriginally posted by HardcoarThe only thing that worries me as far as Murray's concerned is the odds... @ 1.8 market against f*cking Giraffe!?
Milos #11
Murray #7
I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.
The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %Comment -
fcmbSBR Wise Guy
- 03-02-14
- 628
#322Matt first of all good luck with your bet. For me this match is no bet because of poor current form of Andy but if i need to take a bet i would go with Andy simply because of generous odds.. But if i am correct Milos had won on outdoor hard in Tokyo 2012 against Andy + he was leading on masters Toronto (also outdoor in 2012) 1:0 on sets when Andy retired..Originally posted by matt1216Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast tho
Milos #11
Murray #7
I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.
The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %Comment -
JD AMBERSBR Hustler
- 10-26-13
- 65
#323I haven't been able to watch Raonic yet this week but Falla only made it past X-30 in two of Raonic's ten service games. I don't think you can question Raonic's serve game so far, there have been zero signs of rust there.
I was initially going to be all about fading Murray but I'm staying away as I think the odds have come too far down. Yet at the same time, I can't possibly bring myself to back someone who has looked as shaky as Murray has...9 times broken out of 30 against Rosol and Vesely? You say Falla had his chances against Raonic, but that's grasping at straws compared to all the chances Murray had been offering up.
BUT...not at all saying Murray is the wrong side. Just that I don't think Milos' performance this week can be used as the justification for betting against him. He seems to be in better form than I would have guessed in his first tourney back.
If you put a gun to my head, I'd probably be on Murray with you because I can't pick a side at all in this one and when in doubt, beware the public dog. Good luck to you and 'coar and all other Murray backers.Comment -
CappinpicksSBR Posting Legend- 03-11-10
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#324wtf is wrong with pospisil number 1 seed +120 for what reason?Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
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#325Thanks man. That outdoor court in Tokyo is a medium to fast paced hardcourt. all you have to do is serve lights out. It's also a 500 event for Murray, motivation is there but it's not huge. Murray was injured in Canada plus Raonic was at home. This slow harcourt in California, is brutally slow.Originally posted by fcmbMatt first of all good luck with your bet. For me this match is no bet because of poor current form of Andy but if i need to take a bet i would go with Andy simply because of generous odds.. But if i am correct Milos had won on outdoor hard in Tokyo 2012 against Andy + he was leading on masters Toronto (also outdoor in 2012) 1:0 on sets when Andy retired..Comment -
fcmbSBR Wise Guy
- 03-02-14
- 628
#326All true what you"ve said Matt. I would like to hear your opinion on match Isner:Verdasco also please. Even if these courts are slow Big John is playing great & Nando isn"t + it"s in USA where we all know that Americans are giving their 110%. I believe that John is the right play..Comment -
HardcoarSBR Posting Legend
- 02-17-13
- 15606
#327I caught glimpses of it, but not too much. I tend to only watch matches I actually find interesting... Giraffe tends to rarely feature in those.Originally posted by matt1216Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast tho
Milos #11
Murray #7
I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.
The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %
Good point with the surfaces by the way... slow hard should be ideal for Murray's game.
I have no opinion as to whether the market has been off or not in terms of odds.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#328Yeah, this one is tough. Verdasco plays suprisingly well at times, it's odd. He outrallied gasquet yesterday. Isner will probably have too many free points today thoughOriginally posted by fcmbAll true what you"ve said Matt. I would like to hear your opinion on match Isner:Verdasco also please. Even if these courts are slow Big John is playing great & Nando isn"t + it"s in USA where we all know that Americans are giving their 110%. I believe that John is the right play..Comment -
fcmbSBR Wise Guy
- 03-02-14
- 628
#329Yeah but Gasquet is from FranceOriginally posted by matt1216Yeah, this one is tough. Verdasco plays suprisingly well at times, it's odd. He outrallied gasquet yesterday. Isner will probably have too many free points today though
+ he is not that reliable in 2014 especially playing abroad.. Gulbis, Kohli, Monfils , Robredo have all "destroyed" Richard on hard in 2014..
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fcmbSBR Wise Guy
- 03-02-14
- 628
#330+ i forgot to mention Fernando and his mentality.. He is well known for self-destruction. Today with Isner on other side and his crazy serving + he is great in rallies also for his height. I was watching whole match against Davydenko and Lu , and if Isner can repeat his game i see absolutely no chance for Verdasco..Comment -
bababooey13SBR MVP
- 11-13-13
- 1897
#331how did raonic beat murray in barceloa on clay? makes me wonderComment -
EaglesPhan36SBR Aristocracy
- 12-06-06
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#332That was on that blue smurf clay. Those results should be thrown out for any match you see from that tournament as it was one of the worst surfaces in the history of the tour and skewed results for every player there.Comment -
bababooey13SBR MVP
- 11-13-13
- 1897
#333merci beaucoupOriginally posted by EaglesPhan36That was on that blue smurf clay. Those results should be thrown out for any match you see from that tournament as it was one of the worst surfaces in the history of the tour and skewed results for every player there.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
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#334I seriously believe Murray just didn't care about a lot of these encounters at the time. Look what Murray did to him when points mattered??? Murray destroyed Raonic in there only meeting that mattered really. They didn't play in canada. It was a walk overOriginally posted by bababooey13how did raonic beat murray in barceloa on clay? makes me wonderComment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
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#335wtf is Milos wearing??? He's like huge tourist that's always wearing the Hawaii flower shirts in Hawaii. Nobody wears that shit lolComment -
brodieSBR MVP
- 11-25-13
- 2212
#336lmaoOriginally posted by matt1216wtf is Milos wearing??? He's like huge tourist that's always wearing the Hawaii flower shirts in Hawaii. Nobody wears that shit lolComment -
bababooey13SBR MVP
- 11-13-13
- 1897
#337rooting for u matt but watching this ill be shocked if murray wins this let alone straight sets him.Comment -
CallMeGENOSBR Wise Guy
- 03-14-10
- 749
#338ya baba, raonic looks more like the favorite in this match.Comment -
CallMeGENOSBR Wise Guy
- 03-14-10
- 749
#339murray cant even return a 2nd serve...Comment -
professionalADSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-14
- 941
#340yeah murray looks pathetic out there. raonic with the advantageComment -
CallMeGENOSBR Wise Guy
- 03-14-10
- 749
#341nice break murray... shows how quickly things can change in this sport.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#342lol Raonic advantage^^^^ all he has is his serveComment -
professionalADSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-14
- 941
#343milos does this allllll the time. late in sets always chokes
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matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#34410 straight points by Murray. 20 in forced errors by Milos. Andy not even 100% just shows u all his other matches he didn't really give a fukComment -
professionalADSBR Wise Guy
- 01-29-14
- 941
#345matt shud i take murray second set -140?Comment -
CallMeGENOSBR Wise Guy
- 03-14-10
- 749
#346spot on matt. raonic isnt very good with the groundstrokes. if murray can get that serve back things should work out.Comment -
matt1216SBR Posting Legend- 10-27-11
- 14683
#347I considered it but I already have 2-0. It will be closeOriginally posted by professionalADmatt shud i take murray second set -140?Comment -
poetSBR Wise Guy
- 08-11-13
- 796
#348The guy is a loser. How do you lose your concentration like that? Unfreakinbelievable!Comment -
poetSBR Wise Guy
- 08-11-13
- 796
#349I think he's gonna lose this match.Comment -
jessetk313SBR MVP- 09-12-11
- 1298
#350Yea Murray is done. He got the second set break and then got broke to 0 right back by Milos of all people. You should never got broke to 0 by Milos.Comment
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