Matt's Tennis Plays & Record keeping...

**BigPage25** · 03-12-14, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by BigNik

Hey Matty. Why did the line for Zopp jump so much???

yeah that 2nd set was b.s…. looks like the zopp match got cancelled

**SirtySree** · 03-12-14, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by BigNik

Hey Matty. Why did the line for Zopp jump so much???

Match is cancelled apparantly.

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 07:05 AM

Play #82

Murray + wawrinka 2.00 x 5 units

Play #83

Murray 1st set winner 1.77 x 5 unit

Play #84

Murray 2-0 sets 2.40 x 2 units

*i know Murray hasnt exactly been Lights out lately but his ground strokes in rallies have been decent. Murrays won both his last 2 matches in 3 sets but both his opponents upped there game big time at the right time. Murray still found a way. Raonic has the head to head but I see the talent far greater for Raonic to overcome this time. Raonic struggled somewhat on his service games but managed to get thru them. Murray's definately a step up from the previous opponents. This court also suits Murray better as Raonic will be stuck in many more long rallies that I doubt he can win. Murray 2-0 sets.

*this is also day 3 of the DOG LINES. I expect a lot of chalk to come thru today. The fool me 3 times, I don't think so attitude applys here IMO

Wawrinka should beat a tired anderson

**Nyjrkm06** · 03-12-14, 10:39 AM

Totally agree. GL Matt

**Hardcoar** · 03-12-14, 10:46 AM

The only thing that worries me as far as Murray's concerned is the odds... @ 1.8 market against f*cking Giraffe!?

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

The only thing that worries me as far as Murray's concerned is the odds... @ 1.8 market against f*cking Giraffe!?

Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast tho

Milos #11
Murray #7

I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.

The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %

**fcmb** · 03-12-14, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by matt1216

Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast tho

Milos #11
Murray #7

I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.

The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %

Matt first of all good luck with your bet. For me this match is no bet because of poor current form of Andy but if i need to take a bet i would go with Andy simply because of generous odds.. But if i am correct Milos had won on outdoor hard in Tokyo 2012 against Andy + he was leading on masters Toronto (also outdoor in 2012) 1:0 on sets when Andy retired..

**JD AMBER** · 03-12-14, 11:51 AM

I haven't been able to watch Raonic yet this week but Falla only made it past X-30 in two of Raonic's ten service games. I don't think you can question Raonic's serve game so far, there have been zero signs of rust there.

I was initially going to be all about fading Murray but I'm staying away as I think the odds have come too far down. Yet at the same time, I can't possibly bring myself to back someone who has looked as shaky as Murray has...9 times broken out of 30 against Rosol and Vesely? You say Falla had his chances against Raonic, but that's grasping at straws compared to all the chances Murray had been offering up.

BUT...not at all saying Murray is the wrong side. Just that I don't think Milos' performance this week can be used as the justification for betting against him. He seems to be in better form than I would have guessed in his first tourney back.

If you put a gun to my head, I'd probably be on Murray with you because I can't pick a side at all in this one and when in doubt, beware the public dog. Good luck to you and 'coar and all other Murray backers.

**Cappinpicks** · 03-12-14, 11:56 AM

wtf is wrong with pospisil number 1 seed +120 for what reason?

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by fcmb

Matt first of all good luck with your bet. For me this match is no bet because of poor current form of Andy but if i need to take a bet i would go with Andy simply because of generous odds.. But if i am correct Milos had won on outdoor hard in Tokyo 2012 against Andy + he was leading on masters Toronto (also outdoor in 2012) 1:0 on sets when Andy retired..

Thanks man. That outdoor court in Tokyo is a medium to fast paced hardcourt. all you have to do is serve lights out. It's also a 500 event for Murray, motivation is there but it's not huge. Murray was injured in Canada plus Raonic was at home. This slow harcourt in California, is brutally slow.

**fcmb** · 03-12-14, 12:07 PM

All true what you"ve said Matt. I would like to hear your opinion on match Isner:Verdasco also please. Even if these courts are slow Big John is playing great & Nando isn"t + it"s in USA where we all know that Americans are giving their 110%. I believe that John is the right play..

**Hardcoar** · 03-12-14, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by matt1216

Giraffe has not looked amazing but has won his matches.Murray has not looked great since his injury. He is improving fast tho

Milos #11
Murray #7

I know what your saying HC. Did you watch Milos vs Falla? Falla had break chances. Falla just can't serve. I think the Head to ahead alters the odds huge here. You have to remember Murray lost on clay where he didn't give a shit, and indoor Hardcourt where Milos is almost unbreakable.

The market has been ****** all week HC. This is one of the few tourneys that I think they are having problems predicting. It seems they just went by stats on H/H and maybe 1st serve %

I caught glimpses of it, but not too much. I tend to only watch matches I actually find interesting... Giraffe tends to rarely feature in those.

Good point with the surfaces by the way... slow hard should be ideal for Murray's game.

I have no opinion as to whether the market has been off or not in terms of odds.

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by fcmb

All true what you"ve said Matt. I would like to hear your opinion on match Isner:Verdasco also please. Even if these courts are slow Big John is playing great & Nando isn"t + it"s in USA where we all know that Americans are giving their 110%. I believe that John is the right play..

Yeah, this one is tough. Verdasco plays suprisingly well at times, it's odd. He outrallied gasquet yesterday. Isner will probably have too many free points today though

**fcmb** · 03-12-14, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by matt1216

Yeah, this one is tough. Verdasco plays suprisingly well at times, it's odd. He outrallied gasquet yesterday. Isner will probably have too many free points today though

Yeah but Gasquet is from France

+ he is not that reliable in 2014 especially playing abroad.. Gulbis, Kohli, Monfils , Robredo have all "destroyed" Richard on hard in 2014..

**fcmb** · 03-12-14, 12:29 PM

+ i forgot to mention Fernando and his mentality.. He is well known for self-destruction. Today with Isner on other side and his crazy serving + he is great in rallies also for his height. I was watching whole match against Davydenko and Lu , and if Isner can repeat his game i see absolutely no chance for Verdasco..

**bababooey13** · 03-12-14, 12:32 PM

how did raonic beat murray in barceloa on clay? makes me wonder

**EaglesPhan36** · 03-12-14, 12:37 PM

That was on that blue smurf clay. Those results should be thrown out for any match you see from that tournament as it was one of the worst surfaces in the history of the tour and skewed results for every player there.

**bababooey13** · 03-12-14, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

That was on that blue smurf clay. Those results should be thrown out for any match you see from that tournament as it was one of the worst surfaces in the history of the tour and skewed results for every player there.

merci beaucoup

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by bababooey13

how did raonic beat murray in barceloa on clay? makes me wonder

I seriously believe Murray just didn't care about a lot of these encounters at the time. Look what Murray did to him when points mattered??? Murray destroyed Raonic in there only meeting that mattered really. They didn't play in canada. It was a walk over

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 01:05 PM

wtf is Milos wearing??? He's like huge tourist that's always wearing the Hawaii flower shirts in Hawaii. Nobody wears that shit lol

**brodie** · 03-12-14, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by matt1216

wtf is Milos wearing??? He's like huge tourist that's always wearing the Hawaii flower shirts in Hawaii. Nobody wears that shit lol

lmao

**bababooey13** · 03-12-14, 01:37 PM

rooting for u matt but watching this ill be shocked if murray wins this let alone straight sets him.

**CallMeGENO** · 03-12-14, 01:39 PM

ya baba, raonic looks more like the favorite in this match.

**CallMeGENO** · 03-12-14, 01:41 PM

murray cant even return a 2nd serve...

**professionalAD** · 03-12-14, 01:42 PM

yeah murray looks pathetic out there. raonic with the advantage

**CallMeGENO** · 03-12-14, 01:49 PM

nice break murray... shows how quickly things can change in this sport.

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 01:49 PM

lol Raonic advantage^^^^ all he has is his serve

**professionalAD** · 03-12-14, 01:51 PM

milos does this allllll the time. late in sets always chokes

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 01:53 PM

10 straight points by Murray. 20 in forced errors by Milos. Andy not even 100% just shows u all his other matches he didn't really give a fuk

**professionalAD** · 03-12-14, 01:56 PM

matt shud i take murray second set -140?

**CallMeGENO** · 03-12-14, 01:58 PM

spot on matt. raonic isnt very good with the groundstrokes. if murray can get that serve back things should work out.

**matt1216** · 03-12-14, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by professionalAD

matt shud i take murray second set -140?

I considered it but I already have 2-0. It will be close

**poet** · 03-12-14, 02:55 PM

The guy is a loser. How do you lose your concentration like that? Unfreakinbelievable!

**poet** · 03-12-14, 02:56 PM

I think he's gonna lose this match.

**jessetk313** · 03-12-14, 03:06 PM

Yea Murray is done. He got the second set break and then got broke to 0 right back by Milos of all people. You should never got broke to 0 by Milos.