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ParlayininHTown · 08-14-13, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by horja1

and yet he has never been suspended ... you must be sharper than those ATP guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wLtfNlsoCk <---- Should've been suspended for this but was only fined a couple grand because the ATP has no backbone.

If you're talking about the PED usage, well, that's just my own suspicion. Can you blame me, though? As you've seen in cycling, boxing, baseball, and pretty much all other sports, passing tests and avoiding suspensions is fairly easy for athletes these days.

horja1 · 08-14-13, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by allin1

that's exactly my point. if this guy is fixing matches he is doing it for a lot of money. that kind of action in the markets should be spotted by bookies right?

I think he was under investigation by ATP a few years ago but he was never suspended

horja1 · 08-14-13, 01:45 PM

The ATP launched a match fixing investigation of Davydenko's match against Martín Vassallo Argüello in Sopot of 2 August 2007, after several large bets were placed at an online British gambling company, Betfair, in Argüello's favour after Davydenko had won the first set 6–2. Davydenko withdrew from the match during the third set with a foot injury.^[13]Although Davydenko had suffered three first-round defeats in his last three tournaments, was injured in an earlier-round match, and showed signs of injury in the second set,^[14] it did not make sense to Betfair that such a heavy betting volume would go in Argüello's direction at that point of time in the match. Per its agreement with the ATP, Betfair notified the Tour.^[15]^[16] It has since been revealed that nine people based in Russia had bet US$1.5M on Davydenko losing while two unknown people would gain US$6M from the loss.^[17]^[18] A total of $7M was wagered on the match, ten times the usual amount.^[19] Due to these irregularities, all bets were voided. On September 11, 2008, Davydenko, along with Arguello, were cleared of any involvement in match-fixing. The inquiry, which lasted over a year, was the longest ever held into match-fixing in tennis.^[19]Further controversy also surrounded Davydenko after one of his matches at St. Petersburg Open in October 2007. During his 1–6, 7–5, 6–1 defeat by Marin Čilić, he was given a code violation by umpire Jean-Philippe Dercq for not giving his best effort. He was later fined $2000 (£987) by the ATP, but the fine was rescinded upon appeal.^[20] The following week, he lost 6–2, 6–2 to Marcos Baghdatis at the Paris Masters. This generated some controversy, as Davydenko was cautioned by the umpire to do his best during the match.^[21]

allin1 · 08-14-13, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by horja1

damn. thanks a lot for bringing that up.

would pinnacle notify atp if they would spot such dubious betting?

Hardcoar · 08-14-13, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by allin1

that's exactly my point. if this guy is fixing matches he is doing it for a lot of money. that kind of action in the markets should be spotted by bookies right?

It should, and is. He can be certain to make several hundred thousand dollars at the very least for every fix he agrees to. It's also possible he is under some sort of very serious threat of harm to him or his family, although I'd give that possibility the benefit of the doubt at best.

Hardcoar · 08-14-13, 02:36 PM

So what... now my Erakovic +3.5 is going to lose too?

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 02:54 PM

Can Monaco hold serve for the set here?

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Gus Fring

Can Monaco hold serve for the set here?

Guess not. Choker ass bitch

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 03:31 PM

Jelena J sucks so baaaaaaaad

mrlif1 · 08-14-13, 03:45 PM

anyone have a feed for the wozni match?

ethandavis2 · 08-14-13, 04:05 PM

wow, i usually never stop watching a wta match cause they are so up and down. But even i thought Cornet was a lock when she was up a set and 5-2 in the 2nd. Might be one for the good guys here

FlipsideRM · 08-14-13, 04:10 PM

I'm on cornet. So sick to my stomache I don't think I can bet tennis for awhile. First Pospisil now cornet. Puke

slayer14 · 08-14-13, 04:27 PM

Why are there no streams for most of the matches

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 04:33 PM

How did Blake beat jersey?

ethandavis2 · 08-14-13, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by FlipsideRM

I'm on cornet. So sick to my stomache I don't think I can bet tennis for awhile. First Pospisil now cornet. Puke

shes making a comeback now...wta = heart attack

slayer14 · 08-14-13, 04:44 PM

comeback is on for blake

FlipsideRM · 08-14-13, 04:59 PM

Never betting a wta match ever ever ever again.

Hardcoar · 08-14-13, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

So what... now my Erakovic +3.5 is going to lose too?

If you want a good laugh look at the PbP statistics with the above bet in mind.

Hardcoar · 08-14-13, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by slayer14

Why are there no streams for most of the matches

Because USA is the greatest country in the world. Didn't you get the memo??

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 05:25 PM

Lepchenko lost 6 straight games now

+5

slayer14 · 08-14-13, 05:31 PM

You could have got 1/2 in running on a arad win

Gus Fring · 08-14-13, 05:36 PM

Bageled, unreal

ParlayininHTown · 08-14-13, 06:13 PM

Becker

<----- Nadal

slayer14 · 08-14-13, 06:21 PM

If nadal play up to 100 percent it is hard for becker to win 6 games.

STAY STRONG · 08-14-13, 06:30 PM

Nadal in full mode.

Fistula · 08-14-13, 07:12 PM

The rampant casually misogynistic use of the word 'rape' to describe a player winning a tennis match on this forum needs to stop.

allin1 · 08-14-13, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Fistula

The rampant casually misogynistic use of the word 'rape' to describe a player winning a tennis match on this forum needs to stop.

it would be nice if it does

allin1 · 08-14-13, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

It's also possible he is under some sort of very serious threat of harm to him or his family, although I'd give that possibility the benefit of the doubt at best.

or a blackmailing scenario

Hardcoar · 08-15-13, 04:33 AM

Isn't that the same thing, perhaps only broader in the sense it can also mean other threats than violence??

Hardcoar · 08-15-13, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by Fistula

The rampant casually misogynistic use of the word 'rape' to describe a player winning a tennis match on this forum needs to stop.

I don't see that word being used in a misogynistic fashion much at all. I see the word itself used a lot, however.

Hardcoar · 08-15-13, 06:09 AM

Does anyone have a convenient source for match statistics (aces, winners/unforced 1:st/2:nd serve in/won etc) for both ATP and WTA matches? I found nothing at the tournament's site and the ATP isn't very practical, as well as excluding WTA obviously.

Does flashscore or matchstat have those stats? Because I can't seem to find them there either.

Advice would be appreciated!

horja1 · 08-15-13, 06:17 AM

tennisinsight

Hardcoar · 08-15-13, 06:32 AM

Do I need to be a member or something though, because all I can find are tournament stats leaders and tour stats (win %, aces, etc). I can't seem to find these detailed stats for an archived match.

horja1 · 08-15-13, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Do I need to be a member or something though, because all I can find are tournament stats leaders and tour stats (win %, aces, etc). I can't seem to find these detailed stats for an archived match.

not really, only if you want to use advanced filters ... just select a tourney, select a player, select activity and you can see his matches ... click stats and there you have it

allin1 · 08-15-13, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Isn't that the same thing, perhaps only broader in the sense it can also mean other threats than violence??

"under some sort of very serious threat of harm to him or his family"

At the moment (late at night here) I associated harm only with physical violence, but now I get it, blackmail is also about some kind of harm being done.