What's The Latest With betPhoenix?

**poker6469** · 05-21-12, 10:07 PM

got a few cold calls in the past 60 days

but i will not deposet with them read there rules and looks like there is a few rules they could use to steal your money.

**OUTCAST** · 05-22-12, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by rumnblack

Keep getting e-mails from them offering me post-up deals, anyone know from first hand experience what they're like to deal with nowadays?

I started playing there again after new management and have requested 1 free payout since. CS is much better now and payout time is acceptable but they'll have your limit cut fast if you are winning.

**poker6469** · 05-22-12, 10:04 AM

if you dont win, will they cut your limits?

dump this book.

**rumnblack** · 05-22-12, 01:22 PM

Outcast : How long did your payment take or haven't got it yet?

**OUTCAST** · 05-22-12, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by rumnblack

Outcast : How long did your payment take or haven't got it yet?

Rumnblack,
The payout only took 4 biz days and the kind you can get it cashed anywhere. 1 free payout a month.

**DukeJohn** · 05-22-12, 06:10 PM

I just did a withdrawal from BetMania, same peeps, it took 7 biz days to receive funds. I will say, they didn't allow me to get a free payout because I left my money in the account for over 30 days without using it. Meaning, I met my rollover sometime back in January and just left the money in the account. Then I decided I would request some of it and they said, no free payout for you. Your account has to be active during the 30 days before the payout request. Besides that, they actually posted my tracking number of the payment when I logged into the account, so that was cool.

BoL,

**dark star** · 05-22-12, 07:17 PM

I've had free pay outs from both shops-Phoenix & Mania in 7-10 business days

**OUTCAST** · 05-22-12, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by dark star

I've had free pay outs from both shops-Phoenix & Mania in 7-10 business days

Dark star,
Are we allow to have accounts at both places? Mania and Phoenix?

**Legions36** · 05-22-12, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by OUTCAST

Dark star,
Are we allow to have accounts at both places? Mania and Phoenix?

Lol he only said he cashed from both places.

**dolson** · 05-22-12, 10:41 PM

Pheonix or Mania

Both these books have nice bonuses, I have received payments from both Mania and Phoenix in 48hrs p2p, checks in 5 business days, they have paid me regularly with no problem.

**Foosball Champ** · 05-22-12, 11:42 PM

ok thanks for the update on betmania. I had a horrible experience with them two years ago. After reading this I might reup with them.

**OUTCAST** · 05-22-12, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by dolson

Both these books have nice bonuses, I have received payments from both Mania and Phoenix in 48hrs p2p, checks in 5 business days, they have paid me regularly with no problem.

Dolson,

Thanks for clarifying things and not making fun of it, sometimes better to be sure than sorry.

**Thremp** · 05-23-12, 04:03 AM

Isn't the Bet Mania site down?

**Legions36** · 05-23-12, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by OUTCAST

Dolson,

Thanks for clarifying things and not making fun of it, sometimes better to be sure than sorry.

U mean better to be dumb than dumber right?

**DukeJohn** · 05-23-12, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Thremp

Isn't the Bet Mania site down?

Working fine for me.

**Bill Dozer** · 05-23-12, 11:47 AM

No new payout complaints which is good coming into slow season. They are still on payment plans with large winners.

**secretstash** · 05-23-12, 11:54 AM

their payment processors for acceptance suck compared to most books.. i get approved elsewhere and never at phx.

-stash

**OUTCAST** · 05-23-12, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Legions36

U mean better to be dumb than dumber right?

Why do you have to be sarcastic and mean?

**rumnblack** · 05-23-12, 02:52 PM

Thanks for the info guys.

**dolson** · 05-23-12, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

No new payout complaints which is good coming into slow season. They are still on payment plans with large winners.

This sounds good , especially during slow season.

**dark star** · 05-23-12, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by OUTCAST

Dark star,
Are we allow to have accounts at both places? Mania and Phoenix?

Yes.I currently dont have a real lot at either,but both places seem fine to me.

**WeinketoWarrick** · 05-23-12, 09:38 PM

They were either dishonest or totally incompetent when I last dealt with them regarding bonus money I'd won. Avoid this family of books, they've gone way downhill.

**dolson** · 05-24-12, 05:34 PM

I don't see any payout complaints

**Inkwell77** · 06-30-12, 02:23 PM

Is this book trustworthy? Mixed reviews here but they seem to be alright.

**Keith Richard** · 06-30-12, 06:23 PM

Do they offer different lines in baseball?

**Kathy Mora** · 07-03-12, 01:18 PM

About Betphoenix

Hello everyone! My name is Kathy, I recently joined the sales department at Betphoenix (Betmania, Skybook) They are all under the same management... And I must admit one of the first things I was told by the supervisor when they were interviewing me was that they had some issues in the past where their reputation downgraded their rate from A+ to C, this really turn me down because I didn't want to join a company with bad reputation, however, they explained how they put together a whole new management team and things have changed a lot for good. I decided to give the company a shot and after reading all the bad/good things about them I thought it would be cool for you to hear from someone inside how things are really happening.

1- Yes, we are processing payouts a lot faster, it takes 24-48 hours so if you don't get your money today, worst case scenario you'll get it tomorrow.

2- We are giving one free payout once a month and of course there are some rules to be able to claim this but most players do get the free payout via **********, ** or checks that take 7-10 business days to arrive.

3- We are offering great bonuses for recreational players that go from 30% - 75% starting at $100 min deposits. Like every where else some might not be eligible but if you are not a bonus abuser most likely you will get a bonus (sorry I'm very straight forward)

4- CS is great we treat people the same way we want to be treated. Delivering great customer service is our #1 priority that includes me and the rest of the sales team.

If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to contact me at 1-877-717-7747 ext 2345 (ask for Kathy) I obviously can't spend too much time on the forums but I'll make sure to answer your questions as soon as I possibly can or again just call me and I'll take care of you. Enjoy your day

Kathy Mora
Account Manager

**Chopsticks** · 07-03-12, 01:25 PM

Define bonus abuser

**robmpink** · 07-03-12, 01:43 PM

BetPhoenix was a A+ book here? Guess they weren't honest w/ you.

**BigDaddy** · 07-03-12, 01:51 PM

first we had Richard now we get Kathy

**Kathy Mora** · 07-03-12, 02:06 PM

reply

Well, A+ in general not sure what was the rate on SBR. Again, I'm new at the company so I don't know what the real issues weere but I know things are looking pretty good now for all players.

Bonus abuser: Guys that only deposit to get a bonus and then request a withdraw without risking their funds, that's why we don't longet give cash bonuses only free plays.

I don't know who Richard is or what he said or did, I joined the forum to answer your questions and keep you posted on bonuses and stuff I have a lot of players who left and came back and they are happy now obviously its your decision if you want to give it a change or not again I'm just sharing info

We have a 4th of July promo going on:

100% free play on your deposits + a FREE $25 2 team parlay good for the MLB All Stars game.

Rollover required prior to withdrawals: 12x
Minimum deposit required: $100
Maximum bonus awarded is $400 Free Play
The $25 2 Team Parlay is only applicable to the MLB All Star Game (July 10th, 2012).

Some information does not hurt.

Cheers!

**BigDaddy** · 07-03-12, 02:09 PM

Bonus abuser: Guys that only deposit to get a bonus and then request a withdraw without risking their funds, that's why we don't longet give cash bonuses only free plays.

lol

i think most books don't allow that

find me one that does and i will be your new BFF

**Kathy Mora** · 07-03-12, 02:17 PM

LOL I know most books don't but still some people don't understand it's always good to mention small things like this one to avoid issues in the future, I'm the type of girl that will tell you everything, all the terms and conditions and I won't move any further until you agree and again this is just to avoid misunderstandings

so in general you should be able to get a nice bonus and watch the game

Forgot to mention, we calculate the rollover based on your deposit + your free play winnings (not like other books that do it based on deposit + the total free play x .... .... ) just seems impossible to cash out ever!

**betplom** · 07-03-12, 11:07 PM

Kathy, is that really you in your avatar?

If so you are really pretty.

Why would you work in a sportsbook in Costa Rica (The pay is shit, no?) when you could make alot more money doing something else?

(Americans love to visit CR to participate in activities considered illegal in their country)

**Hankwins** · 07-03-12, 11:59 PM

BP gave me the run around on a p2p withdrawl before. granted it did take place in 5 business days but i was lied to for a few days on live help about it being a done deal at the end of the day, not cool.

On a side note, make a mil kathy, you deserve it with that stunning beauty you have going on their.