Is Pinny in trouble?

**Monte** · 07-22-11, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by trixtrix

i think this is more indicative of them hiring someone new and want him taking baby steps

This, they don't have a trader ready for a minor sport ---> limits go down.
If this tells us anything at all, it prolly is that they care about their lines.
Blah if Pinny isn't safe, waking up in the morning isn't either. Comparing them to Phx you need your head examined that's for sure

**rsigley** · 07-22-11, 07:41 PM

why would they hire someone new for arena in week 20 of 20. what is weird too is last week was the first time they offered totals and 1h all years. seems like they were going for a quick cash grab to balance the books

**gafl** · 07-22-11, 07:51 PM

Just wish Pinnacle was still available for US bettors. When they left, everyone got paid. Have to accept that things change, but I don't think there are many US players who wouldn't want Pinnacle back as one of their main outs.

**Stumpage** · 07-22-11, 08:48 PM

Wow.....Astounding reading. Maybe thread of the year, for all the wrong reasons. The Pinnacle/BetPhoenix comparisons are instant classics; Bumper sticker worthy. But hey, carry on.....

"THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" etc,etc.....

**Thremp** · 07-22-11, 09:31 PM

Why is Pinny putting out propaganda with the help of Loshak?!?

**rsigley** · 07-22-11, 10:36 PM

Wow I also bet $500 on 1Q and 1H before tonights game and now the limits are only $200. Sad to see Pinny quality plummet, they were always a good out.

**kostasgr** · 07-22-11, 11:44 PM

What a joke.Pinny is the solidest of all the books.

**skrtelfan** · 07-23-11, 12:34 AM

The last time I looked they had $100 limits on EPL futures.

**Vegas_bond** · 07-23-11, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by kostasgr

What a joke.Pinny is the solidest of all the books.

I like this.

**TGHMak** · 07-23-11, 02:05 AM

Betphoenix has never been close to Pinnacle.

**saintjames** · 07-23-11, 03:34 AM

i heard that pinny is accepting americans again but i seriously doubt that

**Hareeba!** · 07-23-11, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by saintjames

i heard that pinny is accepting americans again but i seriously doubt that

Me too and I seriously hope not

**dikefale** · 07-23-11, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Me too and I seriously hope not

Why?

**Hareeba!** · 07-23-11, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by dikefale

Why?

because it would mean they must have had a change in ownership; it would put them in Uncle Sam's sights so I wouldn't be comfortable having money there and a big chance that Moneybookers would withdraw service to them.

**DrSize** · 07-25-11, 11:02 AM

I've been limited to 470 on CFL sides and totals and I haven't been winning at CFL. Been doing well at bases and up 5 figures for the month of July but don't see why the limits are so low? Not sure what is going on with Pinnacle?

**durito** · 07-25-11, 11:46 AM

you aren´t limited, those are the new circled limits

**bookie** · 07-25-11, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by durito

you aren´t limited, those are the new circled limits

Did those circles come off closer to kick-off? Or are those the new regular limits?

**rsigley** · 07-25-11, 12:26 PM

usually day of circle goes off but before it used to go up to 3000 now only 1000. 1h/1q cut to 200

**DrSize** · 07-25-11, 01:34 PM

474 limit in WNBA too.....this is ridiculous

**durito** · 07-25-11, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by DrSize

474 limit in WNBA too.....this is ridiculous

WNBA overnights have been $500 USD for years except when they are $250. Nothing new.

**rsigley** · 07-25-11, 09:13 PM

yea the problem isn't the circled values, it's the limit when the circles are gone

though it's odd they cut the limit to 1k but the circled value for cfl is still 500 like when it was 3000. i've seen circled wnba at 50 sometimes just depends on when they put them up and what game it is

**illfuuptn** · 07-25-11, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by saintjames

i heard that pinny is accepting americans again but i seriously doubt that

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa?

**wiffle** · 07-25-11, 09:52 PM

for anyone that doesnt know, rsigley is the greatest sports bettor in the world, ainec

**illfuuptn** · 07-25-11, 09:58 PM

^^^This is true. Rsigley and Thremp get trolled the hardest and they are the sharpest posters here.

**deeshen13** · 07-26-11, 12:59 AM

Lock this thread up

**evo34** · 07-26-11, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by rsigley

This is akin to a huge pay cut to me and with the way the world is right now no one can afford a pay cut. I mean I wasted like 300+ hours between Arena and CFL between last year and this and now instead of getting rewarded I'm facing a pay cut because Pinny must be having some sort of problem. I mean why can I bet $250 on a 3000 meter Steeplechase between 451 Brimin Kiprop Kipruto (KEN) +106 Risk To Win 452 Paul Kipsiele Koech (KEN) -124 But only $100 a time on Spokane Shock/Jacksonvilla Sharks game on national TV

The more appropriate question is: why were they offering high limits in the first place? Is this really surprising? Try finding some real sports to bet on.

**Enkhbat** · 07-26-11, 10:10 AM

Well I hope not, Pinny is the best

**Chuck Sims** · 07-26-11, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyC

Only a year ago BetPhoenix was considered a top shop, almost on par with Pinnacle.

Any book can fail and holding Pinnacle to a gold standard is ridiculous, it's a mindset that will leave you stiffed and bitter.

Sigley is doing what any sharp should do, looking for signs of a book in trouble. Reducing limits to McNugget money is a common sign of a book sliding downhill.

JohnnyC aka SBR forum douchebag.

**Ian** · 07-26-11, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by saintjames

i heard that pinny is accepting americans again but i seriously doubt that

I don't know any of them personally, but I've met a small handful of mid-high poker players/grinders in Vegas who claim to have credit accounts at Pinny. They could of course be lying, but I'm inclined to believe them. Whatever the case, unless you gamble big on sports and have some sort of connection I think you/we have no chance of getting an account with them.

**PaperTrail07** · 07-26-11, 02:51 PM

people were loving betpheonix at one point too---can NEVER be too careful ******* around with offshore books

**gomiamigo** · 08-01-11, 07:41 PM

Madoff ran the 5th largest marketmaker/broker-dealer at one point, managed up to '$50 billion,' and was former Chairman of the NASD. I bet he'd never run into financial troubles.

**RickySteve** · 08-01-11, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by rsigley

I'm raising the Pinny threat level to orange. Also how is a guy from Kenya named Paul?

Ban for racism.

**RickySteve** · 08-01-11, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by illfuuptn

^^^This is true. Rsigley and Thremp get trolled the hardest and they are the sharpest posters here.

[ ] true

lollerskatez

it's problem

Did I miss any?

**rsigley** · 08-04-11, 09:08 AM

cfl is back to 3k, maybe they were waiting to see what happened with the debt ceiling????

**rsigley** · 11-08-12, 09:50 PM

bump for 2k limit on cbb sides (not circled)

raising threat level back to orange