A+ Books, Winning, Winning Again, and Still Winning

[boxcar]

OK I realize this question has been asked before, but the answers seem to be all over the place -- so sorry but I'll ask it again --

Of course this is a big "if," but if you're betting and winning consistently, and only using the big A rated books, can you bet the limits or even more than the internet limits with phone bets, consistently win, and continue to play, or will they cut you. By A books I'm talking CRIS, Greek, WSEX, etc.

Some answers here have said "NO," others have said something to the tune of "if you aren't doing things 'they don't like'", then yes. What is the correct answer? What are the things they don't like that will make them cut you? (I'm assuming scalping, arb'ing, etc). If you don't do these things will they let you keep taking their money?

How do Pros do it?

[fingas]

you can do all these things at betfair and they will never cut you

[boxcar]

. . . and if you don't live in the US, you can actually bet there.

I am at Matchbook and Tradesports, but the liquidity is pretty lousy. I like to bet totals and you can't count on getting down there.

[durito]

Pinnacle doesn't boot winners ever. I've never heard of Cris doing so.

[DukeJohn]

OK I realize this question has been asked before, but the answers seem to be all over the place -- so sorry but I'll ask it again --

Of course this is a big "if," but if you're betting and winning consistently, and only using the big A rated books, can you bet the limits or even more than the internet limits with phone bets, consistently win, and continue to play, or will they cut you. By A books I'm talking CRIS, Greek, WSEX, etc.

Some answers here have said "NO," others have said something to the tune of "if you aren't doing things 'they don't like'", then yes. What is the correct answer? What are the things they don't like that will make them cut you? (I'm assuming scalping, arb'ing, etc). If you don't do these things will they let you keep taking their money?

How do Pros do it?

Until some Pro actually responds, I will state from what I gather from reading the forums that it is more of when you bet that the big books are most likely to cut your limits.

For instance, lines move at one book and you quickly go to another book where the line is moving a little slower and get a favorable line for yourself. Another-words, steam plays seem to be frowned upon.

Another one, you place a bet and then the lines move across the board. You do this often enough and would be labeled as a beard or "smart" type money. Which of course makes it look like you are part of a syndicate.

Those are just my observations from reading the forums. I have no personal experience with having my limits cut at any A rated book.

[DukeJohn]

Pinnacle doesn't boot winners ever. I've never heard of Cris doing so.

I think Boxcar is from the US...

[fiveteamer]

Pinnacle will boot horse winners.

[pico]

Pinnacle will boot horse winners.

were you doing negative purse?

[fiveteamer]

Didn't boot me, but I don't think so.

read

http://cangamble.blogspot.com/2008/03/pinnacle-doesnt-want-winners-gambling.html

[durito]

I think Boxcar is from the US...

Doesn't matter

[pico]

Didn't boot me, but I don't think so.

read

http://cangamble.blogspot.com/2008/0...-gambling.html

yeah pinnacle management are bunch of arrogant asses. they always contact me for some kind of info or sign some form whenever i am on a hot streak. pretty annoying at times. however it worked out for them, i think they hire some kind of virtual cooler. **** them.

[betplom]

pinnacle management are bunch of arrogant asses.

Couldn't agree more, I thought it would be difficult for Pinnacle CS/Management to be arrogant via email, I was wrong.

Have I mentioned that I really like Canbet?
It's all smooth as silk with Canbet.

[Bill Dozer]

Until some Pro actually responds, I will state from what I gather from reading the forums that it is more of when you bet that the big books are most likely to cut your limits.

For instance, lines move at one book and you quickly go to another book where the line is moving a little slower and get a favorable line for yourself. Another-words, steam plays seem to be frowned upon.

Another one, you place a bet and then the lines move across the board. You do this often enough and would be labeled as a beard or "smart" type money. Which of course makes it look like you are part of a syndicate.

Those are just my observations from reading the forums. I have no personal experience with having my limits cut at any A rated book.

Good post.

TheGreek and CRIS will sometimes take 6 figures over the phone. They aren't going to cut your phone bets off for mainstream sports unless you are trying to Wagerweb them, keeping the clerk on the line during moves. If you are an originator those books will be happy to get your online action. If you are guy #2 making the same play for a max bet online you will be limited. They rather have you try to play steam on them than double popping openers.

[cobra_king]

Pinnacle will boot horse winners.

100% true, especially if you are playing a lower rated track with them.

[katstale]

Never heard of the boot from Cris or Pinnacle. Cris will limit you for certain type bets. Greek will boot you, but it's fairly polite.

Pinnacle is only one I have ever dealt with that won't cut and/or boot. Thank you Pinny.

To be honest--of the lesser books--Skybook doesn't get enough love for how they handle mid-range players. I mean they will put you on a little delay--but they are definitely not whiners.

If Skybook would add Moneybookers, I would come on here and shill for them and yell for an A rating.

[moonbeam]

ask bill dozer how much advertising SBR shit books pays for beeing advertised here