Pinnacle for stateside players

[thespeculator]

max , i have been your biggest supporter for the longest time, yet you don't acknowledge my posts, doesn't matter you have a great book, i will continue playing all the way through basketball starts again
keep up the good work

[Max009]

Good points.

Seems like this book is Pinny with 2% commission. Pinny +2% isn't Pinny. Not even close.

I don't mind you stating the obvious, that we are not Pinnacle...but if you are going to criticize us at least do it in the context of comparing us to another US facing book.

What we offer right now for the NFL, factoring in the 2% gp angle, is -106 with the funds guaranteed and paid out instantly back to your ewallet. We have great sport variety, great betting variety, and instant guaranteed payouts, now who are you comparing us to that deals with the US?

Value wise for a US facing book it is hard to find anyone offering a better deal in my opinion. Other books certainly are older and more established, no question, but value wise I think we compare favorably to anybody.

[Max009]

max , i have been your biggest supporter for the longest time, yet you don't acknowledge my posts, doesn't matter you have a great book, i will continue playing all the way through basketball starts again
keep up the good work

I hadn't meant to leave you out. I do appreciate your posts, your positive attitude, and your patronage of Parlaymakers.

Sometimes, in business you become too focused on attracting new customers and don't acknowledge your existing customers enough, your post is a good reminder of that, thank you.

[Chopsticks]

Max, will the exchange feature ever be available for moneybookers users? I can't see any reason why it would be harder to let us take matchbook lines spending money that we have deposited in the account when you now have a system in place that uses people's GP account. I love playing with Matchbook but it is so damn expensive to fund. I am sure a lot of moneybookers users feel the same and would be willing to try out PM w/ exchange feature.

[Max009]

Max, will the exchange feature ever be available for moneybookers users? I can't see any reason why it would be harder to let us take matchbook lines spending money that we have deposited in the account when you now have a system in place that uses people's GP account. I love playing with Matchbook but it is so damn expensive to fund. I am sure a lot of moneybookers users feel the same and would be willing to try out PM w/ exchange feature.

Just so I understand correctly what you are asking, you want to deposit to Parlaymakers via Moneybookers and then place offers on the Parlaymakers exchange. Is that correct?

Any other Moneybookers users out there that think this would be useful...and if so how useful? Are there a lot of European players demanding that service of Matchbook?

Thanks in advance for the input.

[Hareeba!]

Are there a lot of European players demanding that service of Matchbook?

why do you ask just about European players?
US+Europe isn't the whole world.
I use MBookers to fund MBook

[Chopsticks]

Saying "a lot of" was probably not the right choice of words. But I am sure at least some would. I don't need to be able to post offers,... frankly I hate waiting for people to take my offers, ... I just want to be able to use the Matchbook odds on those occations that it is better than the Pinnacle odds.

As I said before, I like Parlaymakers. I have access to Pinnacle though so I don't really need you. But with the exchange feature it would be a whole lot more attractive. The question is though, is that the type of business that you are interested in. The people who would want this are likely to have a decent volume of wagers, and your moneybookers fees will likely cost you a bunch. The advantage for me is that I get a lot of the options that I want in one place, and I also get one weekly free payout that arrives within seconds, instead of one monthly free w/s from Pinnacle, or paying 2.8% (though reimbursed as credits) for deposits with matchbook.

That is, if I have not missed something here?

@hareeba, I think it was a fair thing to say as most moneybookers users are probably europeans. But I see your point!

[Max009]

why do you ask just about European players?
US+Europe isn't the whole world.
I use MBookers to fund MBook

That is interesting. I didn't know you could use moneybookers at MB.

I didn't mean to imply to be focused on only European players.

[Max009]

Saying "a lot of" was probably not the right choice of words. But I am sure at least some would. I don't need to be able to post offers,... frankly I hate waiting for people to take my offers, ... I just want to be able to use the Matchbook odds on those occations that it is better than the Pinnacle odds.

As I said before, I like Parlaymakers. I have access to Pinnacle though so I don't really need you. But with the exchange feature it would be a whole lot more attractive. The question is though, is that the type of business that you are interested in. The people who would want this are likely to have a decent volume of wagers, and your moneybookers fees will likely cost you a bunch. The advantage for me is that I get a lot of the options that I want in one place, and I also get one weekly free payout that arrives within seconds, instead of one monthly free w/s from Pinnacle, or paying 2.8% (though reimbursed as credits) for deposits with matchbook.

That is, if I have not missed something here?

@hareeba, I think it was a fair thing to say as most moneybookers users are probably europeans. But I see your point!

I am a little confused. You can use Moneybookers now to deposit and place wagers. I guess you are saying you want to use Moneybookers to deposit and accept offers? Is that right?

Given what hareeba just said about depositing to MB with Moneybookers I think that is something we can probably arrange.

[males]

i have problem pinnacle server is all day dead :-(

[vyomguy]

Max...you do realize one of the biggest problems with your book dont you...you guys take 6 hours to grade a wager..thats ridiculous. You guys should automate it.

[ccy8888]

hey max
use your book last week so far so good. i am trying to reup today but ** and ** is all shut down at gp. Any other options left other then set up cc dep.?

[scurd8]

hey max
use your book last week so far so good. i am trying to reup today but ** and ** is all shut down at gp. Any other options left other then set up cc dep.?

Yea I noticed this as well today, nomore ** or ** for GP? Thats a huge blow right there.

[Max009]

hey max
use your book last week so far so good. i am trying to reup today but ** and ** is all shut down at gp. Any other options left other then set up cc dep.?

I have been told the following, that they are working on some additional processing for ** and ** and that they will also be introducing something late next week that according to them will be a better alternative. I am optimistic and will wait and see what happens. I would say stay tuned, these kind of things happen from time to time, so lets see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

[bookie]

From the GP site:

Effective Friday September 24th, **, **, and Xoom deposits and payouts will no longer be available. Alternate solutions are being developed and will be available soon.

Looks like the assault on another you-can't-touch-us processor has begun.

[Max009]

From the GP site:



Looks like the assault on another you-can't-touch-us processor has begun.

I don't think so, ** and ** processing goes up and down all the time.

[bookie]

Max I again can't get a bet in on the discount lines. I'm set for "Market" and the odds don't change anyway, and I get "The wager odds of one or more orders has changed." Ever since the Hareeba fix the software has been broken at crunch time.

[sbrhedge]

No one is being cheated. It is just like a market order in the stock market. We are always upfront with how we operate.

This thread is a clear example of how someone who knows how to say all the right things can rip off a bunch of people.

[maxvalue1]

nice find !!!

[bookie]

I'm someone who got scammed by Max. I would like to know if he was an idiot who just got in over his head, or if he was planning to blow it up all along.

[minet123]

I'm someone who got scammed by Max. I would like to know if he was an idiot who just got in over his head, or if he was planning to blow it up all along.

I warned Lou or Justin or Bill
....
i know i warned someone
and Mr Walkers TOT lunch buddy those years back probably said something too

[NobodyUKnow]

I'm someone who got scammed by Max. I would like to know if he was an idiot who just got in over his head, or if he was planning to blow it up all along.

Idiot that got in way over his head. They were also trying to run a low rent e-currency at the same time, probably thinking that it would be a win-win situation for both their small stakes sportsbook and gaining acceptance for their e-currency. It turned out to be lose-lose all around.

Their "idiot" moment was their business plan that they could simply scrape Pinnacle's lines and offer them as their own, disregarding anything like common sense or the fact that only the highest volume sportsbooks can offer and succeed on low profit margins. Small timers like Max can't withstand many losses at all in the short-term and just didn't have any idea what the hell they were doing besides the marketing part of forum-whoring.