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    gsindermann
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    10bet dont payout my winnings of 6384 €

    Hello,
    round about 1 1/2 year ago I made a sportsbook account by 10bet sportsbook. I deposit 400 € and I claimed the 200 € sportsbook bonus. Then I placed a lot of bets and so I made the bonus turnover. Then I had 6784,29 € on my account and I want to withdrawl 4.000 €. They sent me a mail, that I should verify my account and so I send them all my documents. After I sent my documents, I got a new mail, that I should sent more and more documents. After a lot of mails and a lot of documents 10bet says, that I should sent my ID Card and a Bill to their office in Malta. I made copies and I got stamps for authentication from a city in my country. I send the documents to 10bet and now they sent 400 € to my neteller account, so 6384,29 € fails. They are not willing to pay out the whole sum. Another problem is, in this time I bought a house and so I moved to another address. I cant change it into my account, because 10bet blocked my account early.

    Has anybody some tipps to get my money?

    Thanks everbody
    Last edited by gsindermann; 01-25-18 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post
    Hello,
    round about 1 1/2 year ago I made a sportsbook account by 10bet sportsbook. I deposit 400 € and I claimed the 200 € sportsbook bonus. Then I placed a lot of bets and so I made the bonus turnover. Then I had 6784,29 € on my account and I want to withdrawl 4.000 €. They sent me a mail, that I should verify my account and so I send them all my documents. After I sent my documents, I got a new mail, that I should sent more and more documents. After a lot of mails and a lot of documents 10bet says, that I should sent my ID Card and a Bill to their office in Malta. I made copies and I got stamps for authentication from a city in my country. I send the documents to 10bet and now they sent 400 € to my neteller account, so 6384,29 € fails. They are not willing to pay out the whole sum. Another problem is, in this time I bought a house and so I moved to another address. I cant change it into my account, because 10bet blocked my account early.

    Has anybody some tipps to get my money?

    Thanks everbody
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

    File a complaint and we will do our best to help out.

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    Not the first issue of that kind. Your case reminds me of this thread: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...nt-closed.html

    He was also forced to send documents by mail to Malta (which BTW is ridiculous). Obviously 10bet paid out when he had involved the European Commission:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleb1 View Post
    After 6.5 weeks I received my money, but my account is closed. After I filed a complaint at the European Commission on Monday, they were suddenly very quick with a solution. I can recommend everybody with a problem to file a complaint at the Online Dispute Resolution (https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/odr/m...chooseLanguage) since they act very quick and 10Bet (and maybe bookmakers in general) take it very seriously, which you can see in my case. I emailed and called for 6.5 weeks, and suddenly 2 days after my complaint with the EU it's resolved.
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    They are not bookmaker for bigger amount

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    Quote Originally Posted by piterp View Post
    They are not bookmaker for bigger amount
    Thats right.

    I sent them so much documents and they want more and more. When I had only 800 € on account, I never should sent them this documents. I played by a lot of bookmakers and allways my ID Card, neteller account and bill were enough.

    I sent them following:
    neteller Account
    Driving Licence
    Driving Licence holding next to my face
    ID Card
    ID Card holding next to my face
    bank statement
    utility bill
    ID Card, utility bill with stamp from a city here


    And then happen so a bullshit? They are not willing to pay out winners.

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    10bet... 12bet... smell same 1xbet ... if that's real forget your money!!! sorry me too!

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    There are plenty of F-D category bookies in this industry, they don`t want to pay over 1-2k amounts.
    and 99% complaints come from Arbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven12 View Post
    There are plenty of F-D category bookies in this industry, they don`t want to pay over 1-2k amounts.
    and 99% complaints come from Arbers
    Thats right.

    But I am not a arber. I payed 5 % taxes by 10bet for every bet and so you cant arb.

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    10bet are not scam just like I said they are for smaller amount .

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    Always verify your account before making the first deposit. There are way too many stories like this nowadays. Hopefully you'll get your winnings.

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    10bet dont answer on my Online Dispute.

    The Commission says, that 10bet uses wrong information about them on their website.

    Thats really incredible and that shows, that 10bet plays unfair against their own customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post
    10bet dont answer on my Online Dispute.

    The Commission says, that 10bet uses wrong information about them on their website.

    Thats really incredible and that shows, that 10bet plays unfair against their own customers.
    Would you please post a copy of what the UKGC said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Would you please post a copy of what the UKGC said?
    I got the answer in german and google translate says following:

    I looked at the terms and conditions of the company and can understand that you were surprised. In the terms and conditions Vhren is misrepresented on the platform. I communicated this to our colleagues in Malta and asked them if there was any way to communicate this to the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post

    I got the answer in german and google translate says following:

    I looked at the terms and conditions of the company and can understand that you were surprised. In the terms and conditions Vhren is misrepresented on the platform. I communicated this to our colleagues in Malta and asked them if there was any way to communicate this to the company.
    Thank you.

    I'm a bit confused about why the UK Gambling Commission is assisting a German resident, or communicating in German.

    Is this really from the United Kingdom Gambling Commission?


    You would be best to write to the MGA as a German playing at 10bet.

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    No, I write to European Commission

    10bet says, that I should write them, when I have a complaint about my problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post
    No, I write to European Commission

    10bet says, that I should write them, when I have a complaint about my problem.

    The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform is mostly to help you find the correct legal authority or help you sort out how to approach cross border disputes within the EU.

    I rarely see them take any active role themselves.

    I wonder if they do mean the MGA when they say "their colleagues in Malta".

    In any case, The Malta Gaming Authority is the correct regulator to approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform is mostly to help you find the correct legal authority or help you sort out how to approach cross border disputes within the EU.

    I rarely see them take any active role themselves.

    I wonder if they do mean the MGA when they say "their colleagues in Malta".

    In any case, The Malta Gaming Authority is the correct regulator to approach.
    10bet accepts decisssions by The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform, but they did not answer on it.

    The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform says to me, that they will inform their colleagues in Malta and not MGA.

    It is really incredible from 10bet , not answer on my dispute. That shows, that 10bet is a scam bookmaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post
    10bet accepts decisssions by The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform, but they did not answer on it.

    The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform says to me, that they will inform their colleagues in Malta and not MGA.

    It is really incredible from 10bet , not answer on my dispute. That shows, that 10bet is a scam bookmaker.
    I'm through this already: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27333588

    MGA referred to MCCAA referred to ECC Germany referred to ECC Malta referred to ECC Germany referred back to MGA and MGA said: "We are not responsible."

    It's a pseudo-licensor. Nobody cares about players' rights in the EU. The only way is to sue but legal costs insurances don't bear the costs of litigations which are related to gambling. Ergo you can only sue when you have enough money and the the amount in dispute is high enough that it's worth it. Ergo no one sues and nothing changes. It's a total failure of national public authorities in Malta and supranational control authorities like the EU.

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    The funny is, that 10bet gives me the web link to fill in the complaint. They dont answer on it, so The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform cant make a decision. No decision, no payout. Thats the way of the 10bet scammers.

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    Sbr given 10bet b+ lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by steven12 View Post
    There are plenty of F-D category bookies in this industry, they don`t want to pay over 1-2k amounts.
    and 99% complaints come from Arbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsindermann View Post
    10bet accepts decisssions by The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform, but they did not answer on it.

    The European Commission Online Dispute Resolution platform says to me, that they will inform their colleagues in Malta and not MGA.

    It is really incredible from 10bet , not answer on my dispute. That shows, that 10bet is a scam bookmaker.
    I find it incredible sbr is giving them b+

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    You have not received the full amount by now and never will?

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