The problem is that it's way too easy for a book to freeroll a player in this situation. Say a book has 9/6 jacks or better video poker and pays 8000 coins on a royal instead of 4000. That would change the edge from roughly -5% to the house to roughly +1.5% to the player. Royal flushes are rare enough that it would be easy for the book to still win in the short term. So they could simply change the payout, and when people notice the higher payout and play it, if the players have a net loss, they can either decide at some point to "fix" it and keep their winnings, but if the players win, they can claim "software error" and void all the winnings.
Casino game payouts 110% - what to do
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skrtelfanSBR MVP
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SantoSBR MVP
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#37I'm quite certain I read a case in a real casino where somebody hit a jackpot, the casino told her it was a malfunction and didn't pay...Comment -
skrtelfanSBR MVP
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#38That happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.htmlComment -
vitalyoSBR MVP
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#39Originally posted by skrtelfanThat happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.htmlOriginally posted by SantoI'm quite certain I read a case in a real casino where somebody hit a jackpot, the casino told her it was a malfunction and didn't pay...
We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .
As i said before.
Originally posted by vitalyoNow if the player got paid 10 to 1 where the odds are 2 to 1 a different story .
Or where the max payout $1000 but machine if flushing 50K .I would agree not paying winnings.
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .Comment -
reno coolSBR MVP
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#40Originally posted by Waiting4GodotSounds like the player intentionally exploited a flaw he discovered.
How could a player be sure a flaw has been found? Even in a -ev situation, there are going to be runs of the player winning. How many games would you have to play before you could be sure there was a game flaw of 110%?
That is not the way one would discover a flaw.
If this is Beted we already know it's a shit book. I hope the player gets paid, He doesn't sound like a pro anyway. It would certainly feel like an injustice from he's view point.bird bird da bird's da wordComment -
skrtelfanSBR MVP
- 10-09-08
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#41Originally posted by vitalyoWhat are you guys drunk ?This early in the morning .Good for you
We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .
As i said before.
I could be wrong in my assessments .
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .Comment -
vitalyoSBR MVP
- 12-05-07
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#42Originally posted by skrtelfanIs English not your native language?
Also my credit to you "Way to avoid direct question"
Your comments are very entertaining
Originally posted by skrtelfanThat happens all the time in casinos. Here's a recent one from last month: http://www.wftv.com/news/21510336/detail.html Today 11:46 AMComment -
tomcowleySBR MVP
- 10-01-07
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#43We have yet to be told if the game was paying at the posted payouts.Comment -
BobbysimSBR Rookie
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#44Originally posted by tomcowleyWe have yet to be told if the game was paying at the posted payouts.Comment -
tomcowleySBR MVP
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#45Then the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.Comment -
JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
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#46Originally posted by tomcowleyThen the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.
Also, I thought most casino vendors get a percentage of the players net casino losses anyway. And if thats the case here, Beted could just take the relatively small 5k amount out of the vendors commission and pay the player.Comment -
PeepSBR MVP
- 06-23-08
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#47Book should pay.
They'll get it back and more long run. Anyone dumb enough to play a casino online will send it all back.Comment -
GETMONEYKIDSBR High Roller
- 10-05-09
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#48i think the "glitch" spread to the sbr casino
you've been warnedComment -
andywendSBR MVP
- 05-20-07
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#49You can always count on BetEd to come up with new and exciting ways to steal money from players.
Anyone who reads this forum would have to have their head examined to continue to play there.Comment -
JerseyShop101Restricted User
- 09-04-08
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#50Originally posted by GETMONEYKIDi think the "glitch" spread to the sbr casino
you've been warned
Filll out the SBR complaint formComment -
SantoSBR MVP
- 09-08-05
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#51Originally posted by vitalyoWhat are you guys drunk ?This early in the morning .Good for you
We are talking about 5 K not 166 mill at one shot . I did mention the situation above so go back and read again .
As i said before.
I could be wrong in my assessments .
My question is for Santo and skrtelfan . Two of you guys do you trust Beted casino? Are you willing to try them out with a real cash. I bet you don't.
And to my previous response .Read it again .Comment -
ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
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#52Originally posted by tomcowleyThen the book has a claim/lawsuit against the vendor and no claim against the player. It's several levels of retardation on BetEd's part, not a malfunction, software error, or overpay. Vegas doesn't get to jack winnings when they offer a +EV casino game through their own negligence/stupidity.Comment -
kingSBR Wise Guy
- 01-15-09
- 506
#53How do we even know BetEd is telling the truth about a software glitch. Maybe they are bull shitting so they don't have to pay. They act like they don't have $5000 to payout. Why would they notice a big winning also on casino. It's like they know something messed up in their software that they won't say they should of won 70-80% of the time.
What I want to know is did everybody who played casino got their funds frozen or just this person. I want to know why its not random with BetEd but more of a percentage. BetEd now is telling us their casino is rigged. Thanks for telling us the casino is rigged so I can stay far away. Also if any BetEd people are reading this pay the player already and stop acting like you can't afford to payout. Most casino can afford this.Comment -
patswinSBR MVP
- 09-05-06
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#54Pay the player and fix the software,Comment -
patswinSBR MVP
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#55stay far away from their flash blackjack gamesComment
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