Attn Australian Bettors "Betting 195" offering $25 free.But has anyone heard of them?

[tommygun]

Pretty much saw an ad on Facebook for these guys, never heard of them. They are offering $25 to play with,no deposit required. Maximum win up to $1000.
Has anyone got any info about this sports book? Don't really want to hand over my personal details.

[brettels]

Didn't know of it until you mentioned it here

Only offers the 7 sports by the looks of it

Can't comment any further obviously haven't used them might give them a shot with the free 25 they offer in the near future though

[brettels]

Good looking odds in offer though

[dikefale]

They have Manila licence. Is that good? I see they have neteller and mb as payment option all together with cc and debit cards. I just cant find information how long does it take to withdraw funs,what is very important.

[kkkkk]

Not many has/had license form Philipines - most popular Mansion88,Dafabet, Bodog Asia Casino etc. To have mb is good

[juuso]

I'm not Australian, but saw this thread here when it was posted and tried them with that $25 no deposit free bet. I Got very lucky and run that $25 into $335, following their terms to a tee. Asked for $310 withdrawal by email Wednesday last week. They even approved my docs and sent email that my docs are approved and withdrawal would be paid between Friday-Sunday last week.

I Didnt get paid over the weekend, so I inquired about my withdrawal status this Monday. Within 30 minutes they had voided all my bets and sent me reply claiming I have gotten this bet in error and it was Advertised and meant for Australian and New Zealand players only. This line was added in T&C just minutes before my bets were cancelled (wasn't there an hour earlier), 8 days after i joined: "This offer only applies to residents of Australia and New Zealand". I have screen captures of previous versions.

They may have meant if for AUS and NZ, but such terms weren't written anywhere and they did give me the bonus. Before the addition of the new rule this monday, According to their terms only USA, Israel and Philippines were restricted countries. They also have USD currency. All this pointed out this being international offer. They also claim I would still be eligible for the 100% bonust though. Wonder if they would have pulled the same stunt if I had ran hot on their 100% bonus?

This is the email I got from them:

"Greetings xxxxxxxxxx,

Upon review, it has become apparent you reside in Finland.

The free $25 was advertised and intended for the Australian and New Zealand
market.

The initial $25 was credited in error. We have voided all wagers and
reversed the free $25.

You are eligible to claim our welcome bonus of up to $100 free. To make a
deposit, simply log into your account, and within minutes you'll be getting
the best odds and bigger payouts!

For information on our bonus terms, please visit our Terms & Conditions
page.

Regards,

xxxxxxxxx
Betting195
www.betting195.com"


LOL, do they really think I would deposit after voiding my free win? Now they are not even answering my complaint email about voiding of my bets. Any of you considering joining and taking their 100% bonus offer, I would skip and stay clear. Retroactively changing terms for measly $300 pay out is a pretty bad sign.

[MiddleMan]

What a crock of shit.

Cheers for the heads up.

[juuso]

Yeah, tell me about it. They are not answering my email. Didn't lose money here, only time, but I'm pretty pissed that I sent my ID to these guys. I have no idea who they really are. They seemed like serious bookie at first and got pretty fast replies to emails, so I didn't think they would do this. Before they cancelled my pay out, I even told them I would redeposit $100 right away for the 100% bonus and post about the pay out on forums. I guess they felt $300 is more important to them than some bad publicity.

[tommygun]

Thanks for the info guys, I'm sorry to hear that they took your winnings Juuso.
I will go ahead and not play with this book based on that information.

[juuso]

Looks like somebody in Australia is also having trouble getting paid from the free $25 with this outfit.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/betting195.1019538/

Don't know if they've paid some people, but can't find any successful withdrawal report posted anywhere yet. Not even on their own facebook page.

Checked out their domains registration details.

http://whois.domaintools.com/betting195.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/betting195.com.au

http://whois.domaintools.com/sports195.com.au

Their main address will epire 23/8. They might renew it soon of course, that might not mean anything, but anybody knows who this Luke Brabin guy is? He seems to own the domain. Some Aussie pro poker player I reckon. That's what I gathered with quick google search.

[tommygun]

Seems shady at best this outfit. Probably gave away too many free $25 plays and now everyone is trying to cash out.
Never heard of Luke Brabin either.
Thank god i didnt waste my time with this book.

[nadim06]

DONT USE THESE GUYS! It started off great, responding to emails in less than a minute, explaining all the rules then I turned the 25$ into 1000$(which wasn't hard with their odds) and they kept changing the rules after that!!!! They started voiding winning bets after they won!!!! They went from saying I had to turnover $500 to $1000. The best was when they said, no matter how big a single bet was it was only classified as a $25 turnover. I am very concerned because they have my id. They won't respond to my emails and have now shut down my account.

[juuso]

DONT USE THESE GUYS! It started off great, responding to emails in less than a minute, explaining all the rules then I turned the 25$ into 1000$(which wasn't hard with their odds) and they kept changing the rules after that!!!! They started voiding winning bets after they won!!!! They went from saying I had to turnover $500 to $1000. The best was when they said, no matter how big a single bet was it was only classified as a $25 turnover. I am very concerned because they have my id. They won't respond to my emails and have now shut down my account.

Ah, that sucks. I see same thing happened to you. Are you outside Aus or NZ? Not that it should matter. Honest bookie would not change terms retroactively.

I can see they claim on their facebook wall ( https://www.facebook.com/Sports195 ) that they've paid over 10 people from the free $25, but that doesn't quite add up. They have 2600 likes on their facebook page. At least few thousand people have taken the offer. More than 10 should have gotten lucky and ran their balance to few hundred while meeting their terms. Maybe they are paying low figure sums to some people, but I'm pretty sure they are voiding lots of winners as well.

My account still seems to be open, but they haven't answered to 2 complaint emails I sent last week.

[nadim06]

Ah, that sucks. I see same thing happened to you. Are you outside Aus or NZ? Not that it should matter. Honest bookie would not change terms retroactively.

I can see they claim on their facebook wall ( https://www.facebook.com/Sports195 ) that they've paid over 10 people from the free $25, but that doesn't quite add up. They have 2600 likes on their facebook page. At least few thousand people have taken the offer. More than 10 should have gotten lucky and ran their balance to few hundred while meeting their terms. Maybe they are paying low figure sums to some people, but I'm pretty sure they are voiding lots of winners as well.

My account still seems to be open, but they haven't answered to 2 complaint emails I sent last week.

No, I'm in Australia! They just completely suck. They have also deleted all my comments on FB.

[juuso]

No, I'm in Australia! They just completely suck. They have also deleted all my comments on FB.

Alright. Just asked as being outside AUS or NZ was their reason for voiding my win. Guess we are just out of luck. They just seem like all around shady operation. At least this thread comes high in google search for betting195. That will definitely hurt their business. Most peeps thinking of depositing for that 100% bonus will likely do a quick search first.

[tommygun]

Alright. Just asked as being outside AUS or NZ was their reason for voiding my win. Guess we are just out of luck. They just seem like all around shady operation. At least this thread comes high in google search for betting195. That will definitely hurt their business. Most peeps thinking of depositing for that 100% bonus will likely do a quick search first.

Let's hope this thread stops ANYONE from depositing in this s.h.it book, scam for sure.

[depnms]

Alright. Just asked as being outside AUS or NZ was their reason for voiding my win. Guess we are just out of luck. They just seem like all around shady operation. At least this thread comes high in google search for betting195. That will definitely hurt their business. Most peeps thinking of depositing for that 100% bonus will likely do a quick search first.

If they are in shady, I think there is no need to give any bonus..

[brettels]

Lucky to have held off by the looks of it

[Bass386]

Looks like bet3000 or bet90. bet3000 has more live bets and pre game other odds. But in live matches, the odds are nearly the same.

[Optional]

What a shame.

Was on my way to a cashout too.

Like the software. And odds are good.

I guess if it seems too good to be true...

[5mike5]

If they are in shady, I think there is no need to give any bonus..

thats how all shady books draw players in

[MARKOFCAIN]

You could always just back on 195 and lay a close match on betfair and get the money into your Betfair account that way, forget about playing through the playthrough just turn it into real cash via an exchange.

[dikefale]

You could always just back on 195 and lay a close match on betfair and get the money into your Betfair account that way, forget about playing through the playthrough just turn it into real cash via an exchange.

And what to do in case u win match in 195?

[jjgold]

never heard of it

Is it licensed??

[MARKOFCAIN]

The same again eventually you will lose on 195

[tommygun]

JJ Gold, if you haven't heard of this your a peanut.
Although it is aimed at Australians....

[jjgold]

stay away

bubble gum operation

just look at website

[tommygun]

thanks JJ Gold, we have established this if you read the comments above. Cheers.

[tabletka]

scamavoid

[horja1]

The same again eventually you will lose on 195

stop giving idiotic advices ...

[bookie195]

Just here to clear the air.

Firstly, free25 was given out in error to 3 non-Australians which the free 25 promotion was not intended for. Strangely, they were all from Finland, responding to ads targeted specifically to Australia, all on the same day, and not another Finnish account thereafter.

It was merely a clerical error that didn't get picked up until the withdrawal stage in the case of the Finnish gentleman who posted on this thread.

jj gold, constructive criticism is nice but we're not sure about "bubble gum", we remember reading your posts on major wager back in 2000 exactly. We were around during the good old days just like you and are out to give the general public of Australia a better deal on their action with $1.95 lines instead of $1.91. We have paid out more than 10 winners from the free25, nadim included, who eventually met the requirements. it's a shame he couldn't come back here to clear the air.

Thanks,

Betting195 bookmakers

[jjgold]

Where are you located??

[tommygun]

betting195, you have a lot of negative press on facebook and on here, explain yourselves. As JJ says where are you located?

[bettingstation]

well, we can try but be careful maybe...

[jjgold]

No phone numbers either??

Why would any Aussie play their when they have all strictly regulated books??