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  • Betislands
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-17-11
    • 547

    #1
    Betislands statement
    Hi guys,

    As you all know over the past we month we acquired 7redsports a move which included expanding our offices. This led to some unexpected technical issues that I am positive we have overcome.. growing pains one might add.

    It saddens me to read the personal attacks vs me and BetIslands , when I have done nothing more to try and help everyone out in this forum and trying to make myself available for everyone more so than any GM/owner in this business. I truly believe that I go the extra mile for our client and I think 99% of clients if they are honest with themselves will see how I have gone out of my to make players feel comfortable and to enjoy playing at Betislands.

    In regards of our check payouts , it is no secret that banking is an obstacle for ANY north american facing sportsbook and I think our payout record speaks for itself and putting us on the top of fastest paying sportsbooks after " Sandy " we decided to temporarily pause our checks. This does not mean anything other than a banking change and we will be working with clients on an account to account basis to get them their funds through alternative methods. Our check payout option should be back in a few weeks.

    Our CS department has not been as stellar as they usually are the last month we took on several more clients that has greatly increased our workload , this is why we have hired several more reps that you all will be seeing shortly. I do not micro manage but unfortunately we get some unrealistic requests on a daily that my staff has no choice but to send them over my way. I am working around the clock to smooth these issues out and to actually better our product a new website will be coming out shortly , with probably a betting cart 2 x bigger than what we have now.

    I would like to thank you for giving Betislands a chance and understanding that yes we have had somewhat of a rough month but this does not translate into anything else than just that , I am confident things are better now and that players can continue to enjoy the service they always have.

    Last but not least I would like to apologize for not answering clients as fast as I usually do but my inbox gets hundreds of emails on a daily.

    I have had a long and thorough conversation with my staff and pointed out some of things you guys have mentioned over the last week , Betislands prides itself on customer service and I will be do my best to hold myself and this company to those standards.

    Cheers,

    Jon K
  • harvesters
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-31-09
    • 272

    #2
    Jon - nice words, but your actions will dictate whether you will once again reign as God of the sbr forums or just another Jon come lately. Make it happen captain!
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    • raiders72001
      Senior Member
      • 08-10-05
      • 11116

      #3
      Jon- Don't take to heart some of the complaints. There are a handful of guys that are going to complain at every post by a book rep.
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      • benandjerry
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 07-01-11
        • 697

        #4
        Good luck going forward! Not playing at you site so cant comment on most things, but cant argue that your presence here on a forum attemtping to help out players is a very nice thing to do as an owner.
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        • DudleyDawson
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-10-12
          • 5658

          #5
          Good stuff, Jon!
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          • Smoke
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-09-09
            • 48111

            #6
            Well spoken Jon!

            Looking forward to the future
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            • CollegePro
              SBR MVP
              • 02-23-09
              • 4006

              #7
              Jon, still think you need to give some more decision power to your management team.. You are extremely hard to get a hold of...
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              • Betislands
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-17-11
                • 547

                #8
                Hi College,

                When it comes to free money I am the only one that has the authority to give the house money away.

                Cheers
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                • woodsy5822
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 06-06-08
                  • 239

                  #9
                  Jon, im one of your biggest supporters. you have ALWAYS done right by me...I will take you for your word cause I have no reason not to.. I guess my only concern is the payouts... are they still gaurentees same day P2P ?? you have stated numerous times to let "your payout records speak for itself" and that there are " zero payout complaints." I 100 % agree with you.. But to be honest with you I am reading stuff that says even P2P are getting delayed by a day or couple days. or people arent getting all their money they are requesting.. I am asking to a man if their is any truth to this?? or is it people being overly dramatic.. you guys sell your site on same day payouts and the customer service.. while the payouts have never once been an issue for myself. I only want to fee that my funds are safe their and if i want to make a withdrawal that you guys live up to your same day P2p.. It just makes me think that if you cant pay same day that their is a bigger issue? If processors are to blame.. whcih is likely going to be the defense.. then what are they doing different??

                  Like i said though you have been nothing but great to me..I appreciate everything.. I will never bash your book.In fact its just the oppsosite.I am on your side about this cause you have lived up to your word always with me. But i do want to feel my funds are secure and reachable.. if needed.. I guess i just want to know if there is any merit to the guys im reading about not getting paid? im not talking about the checks as i dont even use that method..so i dont even care about that..
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                  • Betislands
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-17-11
                    • 547

                    #10
                    P2P are going out same day 95% of the time if they do not go out the same day they will go out the day before I do not think that is a long payout wait.

                    Every single sportsbook does what they can to pay clients quickly we are not the exception , things happen that our out of hands sometimes we just do our best to handle them the best way possible for clients.

                    Cheers
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                    • xstud
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-12-08
                      • 1643

                      #11
                      Great statement Jon!

                      I am happy you are addressing these items. I used to be almost a monthly depositor at Betislands but lately I have sat on livechat and often never received answers or the delays are incredibly long between text. Just last night I attempted to make a deposit at 9:45pm EST and no chat operator was available at Betislands or 7Redsports. I look forward to when things get back to the way they used to be and customer service was amazing as well as the reps responding within a few minutes to basic questions like "I need a ** name to make a deposit". I hope things smooth over for next month, best of luck with the new reps.
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                      • woodsy5822
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 06-06-08
                        • 239

                        #12
                        its not about they wait at all? its about why was it 100% of the time before and only 95% of the time now?? again i have never not recieved same day personally.. like i said previosuly i only wan to fee my money is secure.. everything else you guys do is just an added bonus..
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                        • bubba
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-29-05
                          • 2432

                          #13
                          Originally posted by woodsy5822
                          its not about they wait at all? its about why was it 100% of the time before and only 95% of the time now?? again i have never not recieved same day personally.. like i said previosuly i only wan to fee my money is secure.. everything else you guys do is just an added bonus..
                          maybe its not slways same day cause they dont have any other withdrawl options listed on the website at this time? So anyone who wants to withdraw must use the same method?
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                          • woodsy5822
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 06-06-08
                            • 239

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bubba
                            maybe its not slways same day cause they dont have any other withdrawl options listed on the website at this time? So anyone who wants to withdraw must use the same method?

                            very well could be and i am sure that could be it.. if thats what jon says then i believe him and its not an issue.. He has never ever done wrong by me. i just want to be kept in the loop. with how where why when etc.. that is all
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                            • Betislands
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-17-11
                              • 547

                              #15
                              Woodsy1414,

                              No books processing is perfect if I say 100% and then someone needs to wait an extra day because it happens to every book , how many threads on SBR will I see about this?

                              My will to post has greatly declined the last few days when I see posters that have gotten more than special treatment , no deposit freeplays , free payouts just bash betislands for no good reason other than Jon was not around for them. Or they had to wait an extra day for their payout.

                              Cheers
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                              • woodsy5822
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 06-06-08
                                • 239

                                #16
                                not once have i bashed you or your book..i just had questions/concerns.. you have taken care of me with plenty.. more than any other book out there.. when i am losing tho you know first hand i am depositing every day.. even if its not the biggest amounts.. i have always deposited to BI cause i trust you...

                                nothing i have said has bashed you...not a single word..its the complete opposite.. i am telling people to believe what you say .. these are just questions thats all...
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                                • bubba
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-29-05
                                  • 2432

                                  #17
                                  JON: I emailed you Saturday night and again last night about a concern of mine. Can you please respond to this? Thank you.
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                                  • fastball00
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-19-08
                                    • 147

                                    #18
                                    Great stuff Jon and well articulated statement - Your proficient management style comes across clearly in your post. I understand your need to address certain issues with your clients/posters in this forum. However, keep in mind many of your so called "attackers" have never managed a small business. Furthermore, they have never had to make critical decisions which will determine the growth and success of ones business. Keep up the good work!
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                                    • chilidog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-05-09
                                      • 10305

                                      #19
                                      Hey Jon,

                                      Would you let an account holder collect cash in person in Costa Rica?
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Betislands
                                        Woodsy1414,

                                        No books processing is perfect if I say 100% and then someone needs to wait an extra day because it happens to every book , how many threads on SBR will I see about this?

                                        My will to post has greatly declined the last few days when I see posters that have gotten more than special treatment , no deposit freeplays , free payouts just bash betislands for no good reason other than Jon was not around for them. Or they had to wait an extra day for their payout.

                                        Cheers
                                        Actually there's more to it than just an extra day's wait in my case. It's having to take a p2p payout at a fraction of what I wanted instead of a check at a larger amount. So my free monthly payout gets wasted on a p2p. Further, it's having one rep forgetting to put my request in on Fri, having another rep cut me off short twice that night, and then getting the info so late on Sat, that I can't cash it until Sun or Mon.

                                        This isn't "bashing", it's feedback. Weekends, for me, are for wagering, not sorting out payout issues caused by an inept staff. I'm sure the banking issues will resolve themselves eventually, but I'm not so confident about CS issues. Sorry if feelings were hurt, but this is how it is currently. CS needs drastic improvement.
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                                        • kaliboyz
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-30-09
                                          • 3121

                                          #21
                                          JON is great , and BETISLANDS is great... you got my business as usual , Jon!!!
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                                          • mtneer1212
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-22-08
                                            • 4993

                                            #22
                                            Jon,

                                            Please do not stop posting. Your availability and forthright statements are what appeals to 98% of us. Don't let the other 2% of broke jerks sour your desire to provide the high level of service to your clients. When issues arise, just let us know what is going on. Good luck with your integration, and keep up the good work.

                                            mtneer1212
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                                            • touchback
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-08-12
                                              • 1227

                                              #23
                                              Well... as mentioned before. True open forums will eventually get to the root of things... I would like to point out that this does reflect well on SBR and the fact that they are supporters of open communication but it has to be within reason to protect all parties involved within reasonable time frames, as they say timing is everything and the truth will always rear its head in the end.
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                                              • PackAttack98
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 12-22-11
                                                • 77

                                                #24
                                                Solid book. I don't know why people like to whine
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                                                • wtt0315
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-18-07
                                                  • 8037

                                                  #25
                                                  jon just change your name to tony and tell everyone to fk off..

                                                  Seriously you guys are the best book out there for my money.. Keep up the good work.
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                                                  • Cuse4tw
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-16-10
                                                    • 2895

                                                    #26
                                                    I love playing at betislands, every single time i take out a p2p which luckily has been 1 max a week i have always received it the same day. No complaints on my end, Jon has gone above and beyond my expectations for a book manager and is one of the best to work with.

                                                    If you have a legit claim that something is wrong i have no doubts it would be worked out, if some of you are just trying to get free $ then i dont know what to tell you.

                                                    Betislands has had its struggles recently but how can we not be confident in Jon to get it back to where they were? and to be honest besides the site going down and some of the CS being clownish, i have received my payouts the same day and thats what matters to me.
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                                                    • wtt0315
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-18-07
                                                      • 8037

                                                      #27
                                                      jon one request can you get rid of the 40 cent soccer lines
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                                                      • bubba
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-29-05
                                                        • 2432

                                                        #28
                                                        Already see an improvement as Jon has an automated response so you know he got your email. This obviously will not make or break a situation but its a good start/effort.
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                                                        • Cuse4tw
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-16-10
                                                          • 2895

                                                          #29
                                                          Jon

                                                          another thing in the future i wouldnt mind seeing is book 2 book transfers, any chance that will happen some day?
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                                                          • pokernut9999
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-25-07
                                                            • 12757

                                                            #30
                                                            Damn .......do you guys expect Jon to be available 24/7 ?

                                                            Give the guy a break , he does more than any other book I have ever seen and I have never played there before.
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Cuse4tw
                                                              Jon

                                                              another thing in the future i wouldnt mind seeing is book 2 book transfers, any chance that will happen some day?

                                                              I've asked the same question as well in the past, and I think this is what seperates an A Book from a B Book these days. Bookmaker, DSI, Heritage and 5D provide the service to one another. BI would be a welcome addition to this class of Books, but they seem to hesitate. If they would create a B2B agreement with just any one of these Books, I'd say raise BI to an A book. Otherwise they remain just a solid B Book
                                                              (maybe B- until checks return).
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                                                              • physed
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-29-09
                                                                • 1176

                                                                #32
                                                                Jon
                                                                Please add book to book transfer so that I can deposit money into my account. I'm too busy or lazy to do a P2P
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                                                                • robmpink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-09-07
                                                                  • 13205

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Again, the best book out there because of this man!

                                                                  It is just too bad you have h chit pu***es you have to deal with every day or can't even come on here and tell the truth.
                                                                  Last edited by robmpink; 12-03-12, 08:08 PM.
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                                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                                    • 10128

                                                                    #34
                                                                    never mind.
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                                                                    • TryingMyBest
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 611

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Requested my money at 10am, had my money in hand free of charge at 6pm. You can't have it all, but it's nice to have your money in 8 hours.
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