my 'don't call it soccer' picks

Soon2BRich · 01-30-11, 06:59 PM

hey dude congrats on another great day, i was just wondering do you use betfair? if so do you use the odds they give or set ur own and wait for someone to match you?

decado · 01-30-11, 07:09 PM

just open the chart and if you see the value is a bit higher than it usually was (market fluctuation), then you can set a few ticks lower. i usually use the back value as lay (instead the actual lay value).
but in the end it does not really matter. with laying, you gotta win it anyway, right?

a good idea is to play 'lay 0:0' a few minutes into the game, they usually drop quick in first 10min. on the other hand 'lay X' rises in-play first 15 min or so, then drops slowly (of course if there is no goal).

i use geeks toy, a program, for all my betfair needs, rarely the actual website.

Soon2BRich · 01-30-11, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by decado

just open the chart and if you see the value is a bit higher than it usually was (market fluctuation), then you can set a few ticks lower. i usually use the back value as lay (instead the actual lay value).
but in the end it does not really matter. with laying, you gotta win it anyway, right?

a good idea is to play 'lay 0:0' a few minutes into the game, they usually drop quick in first 10min. on the other hand 'lay X' rises in-play first 15 min or so, then drops slowly (of course if there is no goal).

i use geeks toy, a program, for all my betfair needs, rarely the actual website.

thanks alot, keep up the great work

beeps220 · 01-30-11, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by decado

total: 114-16-1 with +242.93

11-1 and +27.56 for today
and again, one game f-ks up the sweep. still a great day.

Absolutely unreal profit

Being in America I don't have betfair

It could of bailed me out many times to hedge. But I love the way you're using it, I'm sure it's a lot of work and a lot of stress but well worth it. Keep it up

Blue_Chips · 01-31-11, 12:25 AM

Good job today!

Tommy_de1st · 01-31-11, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by decado

i usually use the back value as lay (instead the actual lay value). but in the end it does not really matter. with laying, you gotta win it anyway, right?

So you set up the higher back odds and they go to the pink side and wait for a potential buyer to match them?

Originally posted by decado

a good idea is to play 'lay 0:0' a few minutes into the game, they usually drop quick in first 10min. on the other hand 'lay X' rises in-play first 15 min or so, then drops slowly (of course if there is no goal). i use geeks toy, a program, for all my betfair needs, rarely the actual website.

I was thinking about the method to lay a 0-0 correct score when a big fav still draws at half time. Yesterday's example Espanyol vs Real Madrid. 0-0 at HT and 1-0 FT

decado · 01-31-11, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by Tommy_de1st

So you set up the higher back odds and they go to the pink side and wait for a potential buyer to match them?

actually, the amount of money on blue side is the money 'lay'ers are waiting for 'back'ers to take (and vice versa). if you take the actual lay value in pink, you are only matching the awaiting money of 'back'ers.

Originally posted by Tommy_de1st

I was thinking about the method to lay a 0-0 correct score when a big fav still draws at half time. Yesterday's example Espanyol vs Real Madrid. 0-0 at HT and 1-0 FT

yeah, i do that sometimes. another good one is if the fav is trailing 0-1 early (ex. inter yesterday), the underdog will rarely keep the 1-0 score for the whole 90min. and CS lays are usually low as well with the dog leading.

if you like more advanced, try 'dutching lay' on 0-0, 0-1, 1-0.
this spreads equal liability on three mentioned scores, if it goes 0-0 you won't lose much as you still win lays 0-1 and 1-0. 1-1 or other results will win all three.

Tommy_de1st · 01-31-11, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by decado

actually, the amount of money on blue side is the money 'lay'ers are waiting for 'back'ers to take (and vice versa). if you take the actual lay value in pink, you are only matching the awaiting money of 'back'ers. yeah, i do that sometimes. another good one is if the fav is trailing 0-1 early (ex. inter yesterday), the underdog will rarely keep the 1-0 score for the whole 90min. and CS lays are usually low as well with the dog leading. if you like more advanced, try 'dutching lay' on 0-0, 0-1, 1-0. this spreads equal liability on three mentioned scores, if it goes 0-0 you won't lose much as you still win lays 0-1 and 1-0. 1-1 or other results will win all three.

I know what you mean. I see you well prepared to do the job. I like it

P.S. I meant Osasuna, not Espanyol in the example above

tommygun · 01-31-11, 07:59 AM

let's see a 20 unit bet Decado!

Tommy_de1st · 01-31-11, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by tommygun

let's see a 20 unit bet Decado!

What for, better not force it, he's doing great anyway

decado · 01-31-11, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by tommygun

let's see a 20 unit bet Decado!

what for?

donsirlisir · 01-31-11, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by decado

what for?

i think he's wishing you the best.

Soon2BRich · 01-31-11, 11:56 AM

any plays today?

decado · 01-31-11, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Soon2BRich

any plays today?

Not many games and I don't like much. It's evening and whole Europe is freezing cold. Over -10c here.
I will watch that German match and I'll probably take a further look into that Serie B game. And tempted to lay X in Spain. Still confident for a Valencia win tonight.

coilinsud9 · 01-31-11, 03:42 PM

Santander- Valencia 1-0 41'

Soon2BRich · 01-31-11, 04:58 PM

I take it u didnt play the valencia today becuase it wasnt in bold? Lol lucky

psv777ua · 01-31-11, 05:11 PM

decado · 01-31-11, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Soon2BRich

I take it u didnt play the valencia today becuase it wasnt in bold? Lol lucky

no, i did not play anything today.

Originally posted by psv777ua

good luck to you too

decado · 01-31-11, 06:35 PM

not to end the day without anything, some light plays

INT U20: Argentina v Ecuador - lay 0:0 - 1x
INT U20: Chile v Brazil - lay 0:0 - 1x

decado · 02-01-11, 02:32 AM

previous: 114-16-1 with +242.93
INT U20: Argentina v Ecuador - lay 0:0 - 1x WIN +1
INT U20: Chile v Brazil - lay 0:0 - 1x WIN +1

total: 116-16-1 with +244.93

Tommy_de1st · 02-01-11, 05:13 AM

If you ask me that is pretty insane that +amount

manu4life · 02-01-11, 05:42 AM

any plays for tonight decado??

decado · 02-01-11, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by Tommy_de1st

If you ask me that is pretty insane that +amount

if possible, end with + for the day. and money management is the key.

i just wonder why it is not THAT popular. too much work? high liabilities scares people off? with laying, i am practically playing the 'bookie'. no wonder bookies are bankrupting many people.

Originally posted by manu4life

any plays for tonight decado??

yeah, will have some in England, i think.

Soon2BRich · 02-01-11, 06:38 AM

dude can i just as what country ur from? its just becuase everytime i wake u seem to have played 4-5 plays n ive missed them, lol. u seem to d ths all night. im from london by the way

decado · 02-01-11, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Soon2BRich

dude can i just as what country ur from? its just becuase everytime i wake u seem to have played 4-5 plays n ive missed them, lol. u seem to d ths all night. im from london by the way

Germany.

And I posted only 2 plays last night, not 4-5.

decado · 02-01-11, 09:41 AM

ENG: Sunderland v Chelsea - lay 0:0 - 1x
ENG: Arsenal v Everton - lay X - 5x

too many games at the same time.
have to choose wisely. more to come tonight.

jnsbanman · 02-01-11, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by decado

ENG: Sunderland v Chelsea - lay 0:0 - 1x
ENG: Arsenal v Everton - lay X - 5x

too many games at the same time.
have to choose wisely. more to come tonight.

Sorry for asking this I havent bet soccer... What does lay 0:0 and lay x mean.. how I bet that?

decado · 02-01-11, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by jnsbanman

Sorry for asking this I havent bet soccer... What does lay 0:0 and lay x mean.. how I bet that?

it is betting against something (against draw or against 0:0).
only works with trading exchanges such as betfair.

jnsbanman · 02-01-11, 01:13 PM

oh ok so if I wanted to follow your bets on pinnacle would i take something like -.5 or -0.5 and -1?

decado · 02-01-11, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by jnsbanman

oh ok so if I wanted to follow your bets on pinnacle would i take something like -.5 or -0.5 and -1?

no, there is no way doing similar bets on a normal sportsbook.
laying is a quite different approach. sorry about that.

decado · 02-01-11, 02:28 PM

ENG: Middlesbrough v Scunthorpe - lay X - 5x
ENG: Queens Park Rangers v Portsmouth - lay X - 5x
ENG: Watford v Crystal Palace - lay 0:0 - 1x

will be trading out accordingly to the gameplay, if needed.

waco66 · 02-01-11, 03:30 PM

good luck today.

decado · 02-01-11, 04:21 PM

if anyone is tailing me, now its a good time to trade out in all 'lay X' if you don't want to lose when they end with a draw..

59' Queens Park Rangers 1-0 Portsmouth
69' Middlesbrough 2-0 Scunthorpe Utd
75' Arsenal FC 2-1 Everton FC

decado · 02-01-11, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by waco66

good luck today.

thanks. you too

Soon2BRich · 02-01-11, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by decado

if anyone is tailing me, now its a good time to trade out in all 'lay X' if you don't want to lose when they end with a draw..

59' Queens Park Rangers 1-0 Portsmouth
69' Middlesbrough 2-0 Scunthorpe Utd
75' Arsenal FC 2-1 Everton FC

what do u mean by trade out?? n if im not mistaken thats 5 out of 5?? congrats any late plays tonight?