Germany V England - Sunday June 27th- 10AM EST

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  • Gokhan
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    • 03-14-10
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    #36
    this is an epic match-up for sure. but i'm not sure if the game will be entertaining. i'll support england!
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    • Wrigley
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      • 12-28-07
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      #37
      I like the Brits in this one
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      • wtf
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        • 08-22-08
        • 12983

        #38
        england wont score, no way

        they totally suck
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        • VLR100
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          • 01-10-10
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          #39
          Originally posted by Goat Milk

          No bro if England play to their potential they are the best midfield in the world. Gerrard has played well- Lampard just needs to step up--this is the best offensive midfield duo in the world. All Germany has is Schwine and Podolski they are mainly wing players, if you find a way to shut them down, then Germany's whole offense will fold.
          They are two good attacking midfielders, but England don't have a good playmaking holding midfielder to retain possession, or a great creative player. Germany's midfield is a solid unit with Khedira and Schweinsteiger if he's fit, and Ozil has the creativity to find a hole in the English defense.

          I have to agree with Turkzz and Karayilan

          Originally posted by Goat Milk

          you wanna put sbr points on this game? I got England you got Germany. Back up your talk bud.
          I'm in for 200 points if Schweinsteiger starts, if that's ok with you
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          • Karayilan9
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            • 01-10-09
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            #40
            Originally posted by Goat Milk
            Kary, I don't agree. There isn't 2 offensive threats in the midfield like Gerrard and Lampard and its not even close. They may not play well together at times, but I'm not takling about that. WHo can you even compare them with? Xavi, Fabregas, Silva, Inesta midfield maybe? They play much better together but Gerrard is a better offensive player then all those guys, and has the ability to carry a team by himself for at least 1 match whereas those guys cannot do anything by themselves when needed.

            Turkzz are you serious with Alonso? Please Gerrard had a mediocre season he's one of the best if not th ebest liverpool player of all time.
            Gerrard and Lampard hardly ever play well together, you could count the amount of times they both put in a great performance on one hand. They struggle to put in an average duo performance, they are not even close to being the world's most dangerous duo.

            You can't even compare them to the likes of Xavi and Iniesta who are a genuine duo, you are comparing them to a duo who have won every cup at club and international level except the WC. The heart of one of the best midfields in the world.

            Turkzz is spot on with Alonso, when he has a great defensive midfielder playing with him like Mascherano did at Liverpool, he gets space to do what he does best. His role in deep lying midfield is top class, one of the best pin point passers of the ball, he would rip teams with precise long ball passes, has great vision, creativity, long shots and creates a real attacking threat.

            What happened when Alonso left Liverpool? they went from Premiership contenders and CL winners to a mediocre team, yes Torres was missing a large part of the season aswell. But Gerrard was left looking not nearly as good without Alonso in the midfield and couldn't carry the team on his own.
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            • wtf
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              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #41
              yea england so potent, two goals three games

              relatively weak opponents, now they are up against the big dogs, forget it
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              • Karayilan9
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                • 01-10-09
                • 3742

                #42
                Originally posted by VLR100
                They are two good attacking midfielders, but England don't have a good playmaking holding midfielder to retain possession, or a great creative player. Germany's midfield is a solid unit with Khedira and Schweinsteiger if he's fit, and Ozil has the creativity to find a hole in the English defense.

                I have to agree with Turkzz and Karayilan
                Also if Capello keeps being stubborn and plays a 4-4-2 again, Germany could have an advantage before the game kicks off. Germany are much better at retaining possession and controlling the game, the extra man in midfield could cause England problems. I think Capello will have to change but he has become such a dinosaur who knows

                Another edge the Germans have is psychologically, I get the impression Germans don't see England as such a feared rival. Germany doesn't see England as such a big threat as England sees the Germans. Klinsman on the BBC was so sure Germany would qualify, he wasn't worried at all, while the local pundits were already talking about the penalty shoot outs.
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                • teenheat
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                  • 11-08-09
                  • 362

                  #43
                  germany didnt impress(atleast vs serbia and ghana), but they will once again show that they are a tournament team.
                  we'll win <3
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                  • TurkzZ
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                    • 01-07-09
                    • 4095

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Goat Milk

                    you wanna put sbr points on this game? I got England you got Germany. Back up your talk bud.
                    if i could i would,

                    Alonso was liverpools best player, when he went the team didnt look the same, all the english press etc hyped up Gerrard but the composer of the team was Alonso.

                    Also i feel gerrard is good at breaking forward into the box and pressing opponents, his passing, vision and creativity is well below any of the other footballers you mentioned there,
                    Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                    • TurkzZ
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                      • 01-07-09
                      • 4095

                      #45
                      also to add to Kara's point, ENgland will field a 4-4-2, the only reason they looked better vs a poor Slovenia side was because Slovenia also fielded a 4-4-2, so neither team outnumbered each other in the middle and England's players are superior to Slovinias, contrast this with Algeria who played 3-5-2, al be it with 2 wing backs, England failed to dominate the game. The problem comes for England when they play vs midfield's of 5, and the Germans play a 4-5-1/4-2-3-1 so 5 in the middle, to add to this England's Centre mids are not very mobile, Barry and Lampard, there's a likelihood England will be over run in the midfield and the Germans will dominate possession, unless Capello changes tactic of course, but he seems to be quite stubborn with the 4-4-2 set up.
                      Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR points
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                      • tonyhomo
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-10-10
                        • 749

                        #46
                        IM German and im glad we are playing england instead of usa
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                        • lakerboy
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                          • 04-02-09
                          • 94379

                          #47
                          Now its time to start the conversation about the biggest match of the round of 16.
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                          • jureslo
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                            • 01-12-10
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                            #48
                            Germany is the play. England didn't show anything.
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                            • manidyon
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                              • 02-07-10
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                              #49
                              germany to win 3-2
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                              • Ace_of_Spades
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                                • 10-14-09
                                • 13518

                                #50
                                I'm not fading Paul the Octopus, he's got Germany.
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                                • gryfyn1
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                                  • 03-30-10
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  under is the play

                                  Actually I like the over o2 @ -102; I'm not sure i see this a 1-0 game.
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                                  • OvertimePlease
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                                    • 01-20-09
                                    • 409

                                    #52
                                    lol capello should be fired if he starts heskey..
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                                    • icsky3
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                                      • 04-14-07
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                                      #53
                                      Yeahh I think the only play here would be the fuking under. BOL
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                                      • Full Time Hobo
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                                        • 05-16-10
                                        • 2778

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades
                                        I'm not fading Paul the Octopus, he's got Germany.
                                        Lmao exactly what i was thinking.
                                        Germany for the win! Tail the German Octopus from England lol
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                                        • Dark Horse
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                                          • 12-14-05
                                          • 13764

                                          #55
                                          Germany.

                                          Germany have structure and a system. England has neither. England remains a very average European team, as mentioned before the tournament and demonstrated in the first round, with all of England crying about how bad their team is. Nothing has changed. Germany is a known cup fighter. This will not be epic. Just business as usual.
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                                          • Snowball
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                                            • 11-15-09
                                            • 30056

                                            #56
                                            "Germany is too strong. We must destroy her." - Winston Churchill, Nov. 1936.

                                            "I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleadings not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right." - Attorney General, Sir. Hartley Shawcross, March,16th, 1984
                                            "The last thing Hitler wanted was to produce another great war." - Sir. Basil Liddell Hart
                                            "I see no reason why this war must go on. I am grieved to think of the sacrifices which it will claim. I would like to avert them." - Adolf Hitler, July, 1940.

                                            "We entered the war of our own free will, without ourselves being directly assaulted." - Winston Churchill, Guild Hall Speech, July 1943
                                            "The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets." - Winston Churchill. March, 1946.

                                            "All problems, depressions, wars, disasters, assassinations, all of them were planned, caused, instigated, and implemented by the International Bankers and their attempt to establish a central bank in every country in the world, which they have now done, thanks to corrupt politicians who have been bought and paid for. This is all you need to know about the history of the world."- John Fitzgerald Kennedy

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                                            • Goat Milk
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                                              • 03-24-10
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                                              #57
                                              Germany is a known cup fighter- that doesn't mean anything. Basing your picks off history? This German team is by far the worst as its been in years.
                                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                              • Dark Horse
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                                                • 12-14-05
                                                • 13764

                                                #58
                                                Ignore history at your own risk. Each country has its own spirit. And it always shows.
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                                                • suicidekings
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                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                  • 9962

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                  Germany is a known cup fighter- that doesn't mean anything. Basing your picks off history? This German team is by far the worst as its been in years.
                                                  You could say that about a lot of teams this year...
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                                                  • JOHON8
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                                                    • 01-28-10
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                    You could say that about a lot of teams this year...
                                                    From the ones that got to the round of 16 which ones other than Germany?
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                                                    • fataliz
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                                                      • 01-04-10
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                                                      #61
                                                      on paper... first thoughts germany. but england seems to show up against the germans on the big stage
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                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                        • 03-24-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                        Ignore history at your own risk. Each country has its own spirit. And it always shows.
                                                        1. Who on Germany can force Gerrard out of his comfort zone? Gerrard will control the offense tomorrow freely.

                                                        2. How will Germany win if they don't dominate possession?
                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                        • suicidekings
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                                                          • 03-23-09
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by JOHON8

                                                          From the ones that got to the round of 16 which ones other than Germany?
                                                          Most of the teams that the comment apply to have already fallen in the group stage (ie: Italy & France), however Spain & England have underachieved so far despite the presence of talent on the teams. If they fail to execute when it matters, it amounts to the same thing.
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                                                          • Herrington
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                                                            • 06-07-10
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                                                            #64
                                                            Humm for tomorrow I think Germany has a Good posibility to win!
                                                            England its a good team so we are going to see a good game!
                                                            Hope for germany to win!!!
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                                                            • Dark Horse
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                                                              • 12-14-05
                                                              • 13764

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                              1. Who on Germany can force Gerrard out of his comfort zone? Gerrard will control the offense tomorrow freely.

                                                              2. How will Germany win if they don't dominate possession?
                                                              England is not a team. Exposed as such already, but apparently the English take new hope from having survived the group stage. Now everything will be better for them... Not.
                                                              It's still the same sh*tty collection of players who have no idea how to gel.

                                                              I'm not too impressed by the German team either, but they've shown flashes. And they always have a foundation to fall back on. Not so for the English. German discipline -as in maintaining their form- should decide this.
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                                                              • RevolverOcelot
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                                                                • 11-24-09
                                                                • 57

                                                                #66
                                                                Really looking forward to this match. Hoping for England but I think Germany probably wins.
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                                                                • chrisharvard01
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                                                                  • 10-24-08
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by TR88
                                                                  England wins this one easily! 3-0


                                                                  not a chance.
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                                                                  • chrisharvard01
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                                                                    • 10-24-08
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by TurkzZ
                                                                    also to add to Kara's point, ENgland will field a 4-4-2, the only reason they looked better vs a poor Slovenia side was because Slovenia also fielded a 4-4-2, so neither team outnumbered each other in the middle and England's players are superior to Slovinias, contrast this with Algeria who played 3-5-2, al be it with 2 wing backs, England failed to dominate the game. The problem comes for England when they play vs midfield's of 5, and the Germans play a 4-5-1/4-2-3-1 so 5 in the middle, to add to this England's Centre mids are not very mobile, Barry and Lampard, there's a likelihood England will be over run in the midfield and the Germans will dominate possession, unless Capello changes tactic of course, but he seems to be quite stubborn with the 4-4-2 set up.

                                                                    sharp post.
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                                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Do not bet against the Germans. It is never wise in knock out games.
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                                                                      • juligangster
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                                                                        • 04-15-09
                                                                        • 3

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Take Germany!!! If England could not score against Algeria they won´t against Germany.
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