When we get to the knock out phase, the teams there will shock you - they didn't play like they deserved it, yet they'l be contenders. It happens every cup. Italy should've gone out to Australia 4 yrs ago - but due some serious crap, they went on to win the Cup. You just can't out the cream of the crop, although, I will say France has 0 chance haha - that makes me happy. Although, not as happy as watching Papa Bouba Diop bury one vs them in game 1 2 cups ago. That was awesome.
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Only Brazilians themselves, cant stop Brazil
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brazil future is the great value in this tourney. even at this point. -136 against Ivory Coast was free money!Comment -
brazil is a true #1 the best team i've seen by far. Argentina v brazil would be funComment -
When has Fabiano folded under pressure before? while we have a small wager on brazil to win the cup, unlike with you it doesn't not cloud our judgement as it clearly has with Spain. Your just making wild claims that Fabiano cant cope with pressure, the team isnt suited to the system Dunga plays, when the results and form show the opposite, under the same system and squad, Brazil have been very successful. If you were to highlight a weakness of the Brazil team, it would be the left back Bastos.
These claims you make have no basis, your using outdated stereotypes, calling the team young guns, then back tracking saying you meant whatever
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I don't think, Fabiano is one of the best strikers in the world, he has one of the best finishes, is physically strong, can header, has great ball control, great off the ball movement, great positioning, a great scoring record, he is a complete striker.
His goals yesterday were great, very few strikers would have scored that first goal.
You are falling for the classic stereotype that Brazil is an offensively minded team who play every game in a carnival atmosphere, skills, fancy moves and no emphasis on defense... This is completely wrong, Brazil have one of the best, most organized and cohesive defenses in the world.We cannot judge these teams from what we are seeing right now. These are just warm up games for the elite teams like Brazil Argentina and Spain. Brazil's offensive players are not suited for patience and efficiency. Their natural instincts are too attack and create multiple opportunities but Dunga is trying to hard to change that and its not gonna work against a keeper like Casillas IMO.
Who is judging from what we are just seeing now, I've been saying for months how good Brazil is.
Seriously, have you even watched Brazil before the world cup, they have been playing this style for years. This has been a team project for years, Brazil have been bulking up in defense and defensive midfield since Dunga was playing. Now not only do they have some of the worlds best attacking players, they also have the best defenders and defensive midfielers.
No.You are just being bias right now because you have Brazil winning it all. Brazil has nothing good happening in the midfield except Kaka. If you take Kaka out of the game, Brazil has no real weapon to create except Robinho. Don't even say Fabiano or Elano can create for others because they cannot and never will be able to.
I said this before the world cup that they were a very strong side.
You know nothing about Brazil if you don't understand how their midfield works, the two holding midfielders are the rock in the team. Elano/Ramirez role is very important, they stay central when the team is defending and get wide when attacking.
Why would Fabiano be creating chances, he is the target man.
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Karayilan,
How do you think Brazil will play against Portugal? Attack and go for the win or play it tight for a draw?Comment -
Brazil haven't cranked up the gears yet, they have been comfortably cruising and just stepped on the gas a few times against Ivory Coast and blew them away.
Against Portugal it could be a cagey game, no need to risk any players and pick up needless cards or injuries. A draw suits both teams, if Portugal sit back Brazil are happy keeping the ball. Portugal are likely to approach the game like they did against Ivory Coast, sit back and play for the draw.
If Brazil really wanted to they match up well against Portugal, infact Portugals last loss was against Brazil and that ended something like 6-2.Comment -
alright Turkzz we will see how far Brazil goes. If Brazil plays Spain after the group right off the bat we will definitely put a wager on it.
I never said Brazil is only an offensive team, I said their instincts do not agree w Dunga's system. In fact, I said Brazil is solid defensively in earlier posts.
"Brazil have one of the best, most organized and cohesive defenses in the world."
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lol, i dont know why your making this into a competition, nobody is saying Spain wont go far, but like every team, they have there weaknesses, your free to wager on whomever you wish. I'm not saying Brazil will defiantly win the world cup, and to go in heavy on such a bet would not be wise as only one of 32 teams can win the cup. However on the bases of how they have been playing in the last 4 years, they have a good chance of going all the way, especially after factoring in past world cup performances.
"I said their instincts do not agree w Dunga's system" how do you even come out with these statements, what instincts? 6 - 7 of the starting 11 players are in defensive positions (Bastos, Lucio, Juan, Maicon, Melo, Gilberto) If you have watched Brazil in the last 4 years prior to the world cup you would realise this claim is simply incorrect,Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR pointsComment -
What does being in a defensive position have to do with defense? The only true defenders you listed are Lucio and Juan. Maicon is the same player as Sergio Ramos. They are not even in the discussion of top 10 defenders in the world and neither is anyone else on Brazil except for Lucio.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
I seriously doubt Brazil wins the world cup a lot can happen during the course of a game!Comment -
A South American team can stop them !!!! lol **** the other countrys is what the South Americans are thinking lmao. South Americans are tearing shit up in the World CupComment -
Melo and Gilberto Silva not defensive midfielder by "Instinct" ? As for Maicon not being in your top 10 right backs in the world, that's your opinion, hes fantastic both defensively and offensively in mine, and has shown it for Inter Milan as well as Brazil.
And even if they are not, if you watched the 1st game closely, the defensive mids cover any attacking movements from the full backs and do it pretty well.Forward points to Karayilan, i am unable to receive SBR pointsComment -
spain will stop brazil they will control the ball the whole game.Comment -
Spain all the way!Comment -
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Why do you keep repeating this, nobody is judging teams based on their group stages.
Brazil have played a similar style since Dunga came over, this is nothing new, Brazil was already great, now they are a very well balanced and efficient side.
There is no perfect team, Brazil have a potential weakness with Bastos at left back and they could have bought another replacement for Kaka instead of the abundance of defensive midfielders.
Spain are weaker team without Senna, they are not psychical enough in the center of the park, even a team as poor as Honduras made them look vulnerable. The defense isn't looking too solid either, especially on the wings.
Stop getting so defensive over teams, were here to make money not be fans. I wouldn't hesitate to fade Brazil if the situation was right.
A teams defense is more than 2 central defenders, you can have the best central defenders, if your left/right defense and defensive midfield isn't strong, if your team can't get back and defend cohesively it will count for nothing.GoatMilk
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Not getting defensive Karaylian this is just the way I talk I say things bluntly. I am here to discuss. But you and Turkzz are simply being bias because you have Brazil winning the cup. You're right about Senna probably.
We'll reconvene when the draws after theg roup
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Last 4 world cups: Brazil won 2 times, and France stopped them 2 times. France will go home tomorrow so looks like Brazil will win.
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argentina will kick brazil's assComment -
usa usa usa
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Lol, USA. The Yanks would get like +700 or so on the ML in a match vs Brazil at this World Cup.Comment -
When are people gonna realize Brazil wont lose.
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As long as wade gets another ring im good
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Brazil with beat themselves. What I mean by that is Kaka getting sent off at the time when Brazil was winning 3-0 and now hes not available to play in their most important group stage match against Portugal.Comment -
If USA lose, then England will qualify with a draw. They obviously can't take that chance, since they play at the same time so cannot benefit from knowing in advance what happened to USA, so England will *have* to play for the win, but a draw would not necessarily be catastrophic.
England could also qualify with a draw if USA also draws, and England has a high-scoring draw, like 3-3, and USA's draw is a scoreless one.
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Wade+Amare= championship
