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  • JOHON8
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    • 01-28-10
    • 7712

    #1
    Who is stopping Brazil?
    Spain 0-1 Switzerland
    Germany 0-1 Serbia
    France 0-2 Mexico
    Italy 1-1 Paraguay
    England 0-0 Algeria

    Most of them still likely qualifying but the only team I'm worried about is Argentina, and they know who their South American daddy is.
  • Raven66
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-21-09
    • 824

    #2
    Originally posted by JOHON8
    Spain 0-1 Switzerland
    Germany 0-1 Serbia
    France 0-2 Mexico
    Italy 1-1 Paraguay
    England 0-0 Algeria

    Most of them still likely qualifying but the only team I'm worried about is Argentina, and they know who their South American daddy is.
    Yes Spain, Germany, Italy, and England will still qualify.
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    • suckerforparlays
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      • 02-15-10
      • 4536

      #3
      Netherlands!
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      • JOHON8
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        • 01-28-10
        • 7712

        #4
        Originally posted by Raven66
        Yes Spain, Germany, Italy, and England will still qualify.
        do you wanna do a parlay? I'll give you better odds than the books.
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        • OLBG Sports
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          • 04-26-10
          • 925

          #5
          Originally posted by suckerforparlays
          Netherlands!
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          • SolidDala
            SBR MVP
            • 12-14-09
            • 1696

            #6
            Don't understand why France is in the comment, they haven't have a shot since 2004 and dominick entered....

            I will give you a wild turkey: URUGUAY finish 3rd! and Argentina gets an incredible gold!

            ENG is toast , Italy will go to quarter, SPA`BRA will make it to finals... Question is how far those NETHERLANDS take it...

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            • swiss88
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-07-10
              • 906

              #7
              Originally posted by JOHON8
              Spain 0-1 Switzerland
              Germany 0-1 Serbia
              France 0-2 Mexico
              Italy 1-1 Paraguay
              England 0-0 Algeria
              Brazil 2-1 North Korea
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              • Dad
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                • 11-26-08
                • 23245

                #8
                What about Mexico? Are they for real?

                Spain will bounce back. Switz played very dirty.
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                • Illy
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                  • 04-01-10
                  • 244

                  #9
                  Not so fast on England. They may be on the outside looking in. Like Dad, I also am impressed with El Tri.
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                  • miley
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                    • 03-24-10
                    • 151

                    #10
                    Don't cound off Italy. They always start slow.
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                    • Stansfield
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                      • 04-20-09
                      • 255

                      #11
                      Germany. Until someone actually scores on Benaglia and the Swiss, they have to get some respect. Argentina/Brazil would probably be the best finals matchup.
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                      • Karayilan9
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                        • 01-10-09
                        • 3742

                        #12
                        Hopefully nobody and if anybody does hope its Holland, Argentina or Uruguay for the mother of all pay days
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                        • tachi
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                          • 03-25-09
                          • 309

                          #13
                          Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger thinks that the Brazil against North Korea did not look a team that would win the World Cup.
                          “I felt that they lacked pace, and the midfield lacked creativity. To win a World Cup, that is important.”

                          a previous interview:

                          “Of course it can happen that Brazil will win the cup. They will be solid, but they don’t have the creative talent of previous teams. That’s why I think they may struggle.”
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                          • Eleven
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-07-09
                            • 730

                            #14
                            Brazil hasnt begun to play, its always when people think they wont do much that they pull it off.
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                            • Thomas_Garber
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                              • 11-19-09
                              • 364

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Raven66
                              Yes Spain, Germany, Italy, and England will still qualify.

                              Italy is bad. They might qualify since their group is not that strong but with Giraldino or however you spell his name, italy's offense has problems.

                              They will have to score goals and that is going to be a problem. Even if they qualify I don't see them beating teams like spain, holland or brazil.
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                              • Half_Glassed
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                                • 01-18-10
                                • 161

                                #16
                                Like Johon8 - any thoughts on Brazil and Mexico FINAL?
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                                • Goat Milk
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                                  • 03-24-10
                                  • 25850

                                  #17
                                  Brazil's young guns will fold under the pressure when the real time comes and Dunga has tried to change the complexity of that team too rapidly.

                                  Argentina lacks any top 10 calliber players in the midfield. Mascherano is good, but he isn't world class and Veron doesn't have the fitness to play passed the 70th minute on the big stage. Argentina also has some series defensive issues, their group stage is not preparing them at all for what they are about to face. They should make it to the semi's though
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                                  • DeluxeLiner
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                                    • 01-29-08
                                    • 4132

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dad
                                    What about Mexico? Are they for real?

                                    Spain will bounce back. Switz played very dirty.
                                    LOL. When was the the last time you can remember saying "Switz played very dirty". World first by poster.
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                                    • rico
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                                      • 04-20-10
                                      • 112

                                      #19
                                      Very good post. I think only Argentina can stop Brazil and Argentina will do it. Argentina has the most complete squad, the only thing I'm seriuosly worried about is the defence.

                                      If you take a look at the bracket, if Brazil wins Group G, they might face Spain(round of 16) and Holland(QuarterFinal). Argentina will win Group B and they have the easier half to the final.

                                      I have big bets on Argentina and Brazil. Also an underdog bet on Paraguay. Its sad that skillful and offensiveminded Paraguay in qualificationmatches always falls back in WC and play tense, destructive and to respectful against their opponents. If that tradition change in this WC and Paraguay starts to play their game they will go far in this tournament.

                                      The only europeans team that have a small shot are Holland and Spain. But I dont believe they will make it to the final.
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                                      • nicsbr
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                                        • 05-03-10
                                        • 839

                                        #20
                                        Holland, Germany or Argentina
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                                        • virus450
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 04-11-10
                                          • 52

                                          #21
                                          according to current situation, if everyone will stay as they are now, than only argentina can stop brazil. those two are WC winners
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                                          • Karayilan9
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                                            • 01-10-09
                                            • 3742

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                            Brazil's young guns will fold under the pressure when the real time comes and Dunga has tried to change the complexity of that team too rapidly.
                                            Wrong in so many ways.

                                            Who are these young guns? You got the wrong team if you were really referring to Brazil

                                            Most of Brazil's team are not "young guns", Dunga came under criticism for not calling the next big things into this squad.

                                            They are a cohesive team who have alot of experience playing together, the team has been similar since the last Copa America and is almost the same as the Confederations cup winning team.

                                            Dunga has not changed the complexity of the team too rapidly whatever that means, if you meant tactically he has played the same system since he arrived, the team can shift formations, tactics and positions throughout the game. That level of footballing intelligence requires team cohesion, top quality players and experience.

                                            You got Brazil all wrong.
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                                            • TurkzZ
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                                              • 01-07-09
                                              • 4095

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                              Brazil's young guns will fold under the pressure when the real time comes and Dunga has tried to change the complexity of that team too rapidly.

                                              Argentina lacks any top 10 calliber players in the midfield. Mascherano is good, but he isn't world class and Veron doesn't have the fitness to play passed the 70th minute on the big stage. Argentina also has some series defensive issues, their group stage is not preparing them at all for what they are about to face. They should make it to the semi's though
                                              Young guns?? if you don't know what your talking about, just don't talk, Brazil have the oldest average age of all the teams in the World Cup. All of the starting 11 are in there late 20's / early thirties.

                                              Brazil played this same style in 94 then Dunga was in the team and won the world cup....

                                              and Mascherano isn't world class? he is possibly the best Defensive midfielder in the world at the moment
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                                              • TurkzZ
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                                                • 01-07-09
                                                • 4095

                                                #24
                                                and as kara said, they have Won the Copa America and the Confederations cup with almost an identical squad....
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                                                • Socrates
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                                                  • 02-24-10
                                                  • 923

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dad
                                                  What about Mexico? Are they for real? Spain will bounce back. Switz played very dirty.
                                                  Mexico play Brazil very well. Mexico have beaten Brazil in the Confederations cup, Copa America and in friendlies. They have a winning record against Brazil during the last decade.

                                                  If they were to somehow meet up, I would place a small amount on the underdog.
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                                                  • Socrates
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                                                    • 02-24-10
                                                    • 923

                                                    #26
                                                    I also think Holland can take them out, that's if no one takes them out before, ala Euro 08 melt down.
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                                                    • mihaita666
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                                                      • 09-13-09
                                                      • 8596

                                                      #27
                                                      holland has a weak defense, argentina has a serious shot
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                                                      • lasker
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                                                        • 01-27-10
                                                        • 1683

                                                        #28
                                                        Argentina will win the world cup.
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                                                        • alukk
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                                                          • 01-29-09
                                                          • 1544

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SolidDala
                                                          Don't understand why France is in the comment, they haven't have a shot since 2004 and dominick entered.... I will give you a wild turkey: URUGUAY finish 3rd! and Argentina gets an incredible gold! ENG is toast , Italy will go to quarter, SPA`BRA will make it to finals... Question is how far those NETHERLANDS take it...
                                                          , They got a shot last WC of winning it
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                                                          • Goat Milk
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                                                            • 03-24-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Karayilan9

                                                            Wrong in so many ways.

                                                            Who are these young guns? You got the wrong team if you were really referring to Brazil

                                                            Most of Brazil's team are not "young guns", Dunga came under criticism for not calling the next big things into this squad.

                                                            They are a cohesive team who have alot of experience playing together, the team has been similar since the last Copa America and is almost the same as the Confederations cup winning team.

                                                            Dunga has not changed the complexity of the team too rapidly whatever that means, if you meant tactically he has played the same system since he arrived, the team can shift formations, tactics and positions throughout the game. That level of footballing intelligence requires team cohesion, top quality players and experience.

                                                            You got Brazil all wrong.
                                                            Is Fabiano going to step up on the big stage? Fukk no. When I say young guns I'm not talkign about age. I'm talking about experience and clutchness.

                                                            Is Elano going to do anything in a Brazil semi-final game?

                                                            Brazil's defenders are offensive oriented except Lucio and Juan. Alves and Micion are both offensive oriented defenders. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about Turkz, I've been watching soccer for over a decade.

                                                            We'll see how Brazil fairs. If they play Spain in the first round they are done.
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                                                            • TurkzZ
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                                                              • 01-07-09
                                                              • 4095

                                                              #31
                                                              what would give you that impression? the same team has already won a copa america and a confederations cup. And Brazil have one of the best defensive records

                                                              If thats the case with Elano and Fabiano, how do we know Villa etc will do anything in a semi final game, makes no sense what so ever.

                                                              and also you could watch the game for 50 years and still not have an in depth knowledge of the game , just because you have watched football for a couple years doesn't mean anything.
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                                                              • TurkzZ
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                                                                • 01-07-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                Brazil's defenders are offensive oriented except Lucio and Juan. Alves and Micion are both offensive oriented defenders
                                                                Would help if you named the real Brazil back line (alves and maicon dont start games together) , i also cannot understand this point, because they are offensive oriented, its a weakness? defenders with high technical abilities can only be a bonus
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                                                                • jhause13
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                                                                  • 12-27-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Argentina will get it done. I don't see Messi not winning this World Cup.
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                                    • 25850

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I know alves comes off the bench. Being offensive oriented is not a good thing fora defender because Alves and Maicon will get burned in transition against quicker teams that have fast wing players like Spain does with Silva and Inesta. We'll see if Brazil gets past the semi's.
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                                                                    • TurkzZ
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                                                                      • 01-07-09
                                                                      • 4095

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                      I know alves comes off the bench. Being offensive oriented is not a good thing fora defender because Alves and Maicon will get burned in transition against quicker teams that have fast wing players like Spain does with Silva and Inesta. We'll see if Brazil gets past the semi's.
                                                                      again totally incorrect and outrageous, Lucio is one of the worlds best defenders, Juan is not an offensive orientated defender, and seeing that you have watched football for over a decade, you would know that Brazil play a 4-2-2-2 formation, the defensive mids cover the fullbacks who are crucial to giving Brazil width. The same system has won them many cups and currently hold a great defensive record, so i cannot understand where these claims derive from, other then general stereo types attached to teams.

                                                                      its not a case of, if a team makes the semis or not, its a case of you spreading incorrect information
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