American's have ZERO chance tomorrow

[leeznon]

And of course England is superior to the US team, they better be. It's their national sport. And yes they are overrated. On SportsCenter they keep on saying that England is ranked 3rd, but they're only ranked 8th (I think) by FIFA. So yes, the American media is overrating England. In that sense they are overrated.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

And of course England is superior to the US team, they better be. It's their national sport. And yes they are overrated. On SportsCenter they keep on saying that England is ranked 3rd, but they're only ranked 8th (I think) by FIFA. So yes, the American media is overrating England. In that sense they are overrated.

I don't follow the whole crap about their "overrated" and their "underrated". I go by stats and match-ups. Its England vs. USA, not England vs. Brazil. People are extremely over thinking this game which makes me want to put more on England.

[doylfish]

Why do you say England is overrated?

this is coming from my view of england in general, not as much to do with tomorrow and USA's chances. just England's cup chances in general. i think it's terrible that they are the 5th best odds team barely behind holland and then there is a large gap in odds between england and germany (almost double) and double for italy. look at their qualifying group..horrible..probably the easiest qualifying group of any team to make the cup, but that's my opinion.

'new' manager with capello over mclaren, but i don't think the change was anything drastically for the better.

then lets get to the players, if we start in the back with probably the weakest part of their whole team, the defense is not that great, it starts in the goal, and their goalkeeping is shaky at best (and will more than likely be exposed in the cup under pressure and better quality than they saw in the qualifying matches (save friendlies, which they didn't have any standout performances in friendly matchups anyway). for pete's sake the guy probably starting in goal (hart) is 22 and has just about no experience.

then c'mon, with the D ferdinand wasn't that great an option in the first place and was going to be exposed enough, who can honestly step in now and make a difference? king's knees are no better than ferdinand's are/were, guy can barely stay on the pitch to train enough. john terry is having more than his share of 'problems' as well lately and mentality (especially team mentality) is as big a part of the game as anything else.

this is essentially the exact same team from a few years back, they've all gotten older together, they all care more about each other than any kind of team mentality, and really the only guy who has gotten better is rooney and one man can only do so much with shaky D behind him. seriously who else is going to be a producing striker with rooney? heskey? good lord.

if you can read anything i just wrote and think that england still has all these great chances and is not overrated...well..have fun betting with them in this cup and i hope you don't lose too much. just saying i warned all.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

this is coming from my view of england in general, not as much to do with tomorrow and USA's chances. just England's cup chances in general. i think it's terrible that they are the 5th best odds team barely behind holland and then there is a large gap in odds between england and germany (almost double) and double for italy. look at their qualifying group..horrible..probably the easiest qualifying group of any team to make the cup, but that's my opinion.

'new' manager with capello over mclaren, but i don't think the change was anything drastically for the better.

then lets get to the players, if we start in the back with probably the weakest part of their whole team, the defense is not that great, it starts in the goal, and their goalkeeping is shaky at best (and will more than likely be exposed in the cup under pressure and better quality than they saw in the qualifying matches (save friendlies, which they didn't have any standout performances in friendly matchups anyway). for pete's sake the guy probably starting in goal (hart) is 22 and has just about no experience.

then c'mon, with the D ferdinand wasn't that great an option in the first place and was going to be exposed enough, who can honestly step in now and make a difference? king's knees are no better than ferdinand's are/were, guy can barely stay on the pitch to train enough. john terry is having more than his share of 'problems' as well lately and mentality (especially team mentality) is as big a part of the game as anything else.

this is essentially the exact same team from a few years back, they've all gotten older together, they all care more about each other than any kind of team mentality, and really the only guy who has gotten better is rooney and one man can only do so much with shaky D behind him. seriously who else is going to be a producing striker with rooney? heskey? good lord.

if you can read anything i just wrote and think that england still has all these great chances and is not overrated...well..have fun betting with them in this cup and i hope you don't lose too much. just saying i warned all.

Your points are all valid and have a good argument, but I think your over thinking it. The coaching change is probably their biggest improvement over the last 2 year since not making Euro 2008. Also, the ageing of Rooney has helped this team as he has great potential to light it up this WC. Yeah, their defense isn't the strongest its been over the years but they definitely have enough talent to keep a lead in their group stage matches. I'm just betting them tomorrow in their opener against the U.S. I don't have a future on England winning the WC or anything, because I know their going to struggle defensively as they go onto the 2nd round.

[crazymilkman]

America is very underrated or England overrated

[zlate22]

england wins 2-0

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

england wins 2-0

I like your thinking

[EmpireMaker]

England 3 USA 0

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

England 3 USA 0

Even better, haha. Good luck

[BeeMore]

england big in my opinion

[GatorTD]

If the US does get a result, whether it be one or three points, it might be because of the lack of Gareth Barry. We've been over it before. No, the US is NOT as good as England, player for player. But offensively they can match up in certain areas. The US are strong enough up front physically that the strikers wont be pushed around by Terry and King. They have two wingers who can attack to hold England's fullbacks up enough to keep from diving forward in fear of exploiting the space behind, but also love to float into the midfield where England will be forced to play two central midfielders who dont like to play that deep.

This would be much more difficult of a US matchup if Gerrard was able to slide out outside and Lampard was able to push higher with Barry providing cover. Gerrard and Lampard have never been able to co-exist in the national team side because nobody is willing to do the dirty work. The US has the ability to exploit the space behind them with Donovan and Dempsey, not to mention Michael Bradley making late runs from his deeper midfield role.

I dont expect the US to win, but I dont expect a rout either. They may not be the most athletic, but the US back 4 are gritty and tough defenders, and the US does boast the best goalkeeper in the group.

[$Burm$]

Big USA fan, think england will prolly end up winning this one BUT it will not be EASY at all for them, HOPING for that draw though.. GO USA, and GL to you D3 and everyone else..watching this game will be good enough for me, no need to put $ on it

[xdmoney13x]

Usa ml +605 zero chance at cashing.

You dont know anything dude cause US has a good chance to win and are definitely gonna score.

[$Burm$]

i wouldnt say a good chance, because in order for them to win about 7 or 8 of the starting 11 are going to have to play very well and the other 3 or 4 are going to have 2 be more than serviceable...thats hard to get from a team, but hey.....who wouldve thought they wouldve back in the day when the US upset England

[cro]

england scores atleast 3

[leeznon]

I can't see Howard giving up that many goals. He's one of the best keepers in the EPL.

[Rig]

I wouldn't say zero because that's statisically untrue and is in the line of thinking that causes you to lose

[Sawyer]

Two words bud, Fabio Capello I'd say the greatest tactician coach in the World Cup.

You're joking I guess?

England have %0 chance to win the World Cup and biggest reason is Capello! He's not a good coach in my opinion. He's not a genius, he doesn't have a charisma (to encourage his players) like Jose Mourinho. Capello sucks!

Capello is a very poor coach. His coaching skills are awful.

[Sawyer]

Btw, do you know USA defeated Spain last year?

First Half Draw & USA +1 for me.

[stikymess]

Maybe the over is the play, since as I'm told US has ZERO chance.

[Dark Horse]

England is not the type of team that has the creativity and technique to get through a wall of defenders. So the US should sit back and let England frustrate itself.

Because of their status England will have to take the initiative, and the US should give it to them. This means that England, which itself has a hard time creating space, voluntarily gives away space for fast US counter attacks.

The US has a chance, because English players aren't very strong tactically. It's a working class soccer culture, where thinking about the game is not advocated.

English national teams don't know what it means to gel. They lack a national style, and instead of playing from a clear team concept, are typically in search of it during big tournaments. The US does have a national style. It is very simple and without true beauty, but it is effective. The players understand their roles. That can give the US an edge. The longer the game remains scoreless, the better it is for the US, because the more confused England will become. If England score a fast goal all this changes, of course.

[kmarinouofm]

guys this england team is over rated.. plus they are not a group.. i won't be surprised to see them play very flat tomorrow..

tomorrow might be team USA biggest game EVER... england.. ehhh .. this is probably the weakest team England has ever put together.. while the Strongest USA has ever had..

Donovan is world Class.. he has proven that.. Dempsey as well.. We will all be Onyewu fan's by the time this team has played through this group.. Howard is a solid goalie.. we got a shot.. if we win or tie tomorrow we have a very good chance of winning this group guys.. seriously i have seen this team start to come together over the last two years... I know they are ready.. I can feel that they are ready.. Tomorrow .. they will show everyone they are ready..

They will not let us down.. DONT TREAD ON US.. LETS GO TEAM USA

[ACKACKACK]

England is not the type of team that has the creativity and technique to get through a wall of defenders. So the US should sit back and let England frustrate itself. Because of their status England will have to take the initiative, and the US should give it to them. This means that England, which itself has a hard time creating space, voluntarily gives away space for fast US counter attacks. The US has a chance, because English players aren't very strong tactically. It's a working class soccer culture, where thinking about the game is not advocated. English national teams don't know what it means to gel. They lack a national style, and instead of playing from a clear team concept, are typically in search of it during big tournaments. The US does have a national style. It is very simple and without true beauty, but it is effective. The players understand their roles. That can give the US an edge. The longer the game remains scoreless, the better it is for the US, because the more confused England will become. If England score a fast goal all this changes, of course.

I swear you're just copy and pasting the same post. English players lack intelligence. We all know that. No need for some essay everytime.

This is how you do it:

Jay Demerit.

[Dark Horse]

I'm flattered that you think my opinion is widely known, but you may want to take a look at the WC futures.

Guy has ten posts and tells someone who's been here for five years what he can and can't post. lol

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

You dont know anything dude cause US has a good chance to win and are definitely gonna score.

USA has a good chance at winning lmao: Thanks for making my day, and I just woke up!!

England -1, 108 (8x)

[RedDevil11]

The US will be outclassed in the midfield and be put under pressure for much of the match....Jonathon Spector will be more like Jonathon 'Spectator', when he sees Lennon or SWP running at him. England 2 USA 0

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

The US will be outclassed in the midfield and be put under pressure for much of the match....Jonathon Spector will be more like Jonathon 'Spectator', when he sees Lennon or SWP running at him. England 2 USA 0

I like that one

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

guys this england team is over rated.. plus they are not a group.. i won't be surprised to see them play very flat tomorrow..

tomorrow might be team USA biggest game EVER... england.. ehhh .. this is probably the weakest team England has ever put together.. while the Strongest USA has ever had..

Donovan is world Class.. he has proven that.. Dempsey as well.. We will all be Onyewu fan's by the time this team has played through this group.. Howard is a solid goalie.. we got a shot.. if we win or tie tomorrow we have a very good chance of winning this group guys.. seriously i have seen this team start to come together over the last two years... I know they are ready.. I can feel that they are ready.. Tomorrow .. they will show everyone they are ready..

They will not let us down.. DONT TREAD ON US.. LETS GO TEAM USA

Good luck to team USA, its going to be tough to get 3 points tomorrow but 1 point is up for grabs.

[blackf1re]

Will be a very tight match. A see England winning by one or drawing. I have already taken USA +1 @2.03. Definitely good value.

[masse]

First Half Draw & USA +1 for me.

I like that thinking. Im going for USA first half.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Will be a very tight match. A see England winning by one or drawing. I have already taken USA +1 @2.03. Definitely good value.

Yes you definitely got value on that play but your better off taking the Draw in that game. You have USA +1 and if they lose 2-1 your bet pushes and you make no money. Having USA +1 you'll be hoping for a Draw in this game because its a LONG shot of USA winning this game. Just a smarter pick imo, the Draw in this match is paying +320 and +350 on other books. GL

[GatorTD]

The US will be outclassed in the midfield and be put under pressure for much of the match....Jonathon Spector will be more like Jonathon 'Spectator', when he sees Lennon or SWP running at him. England 2 USA 0

I'm assuming you're calling him Jonathan Spectator because you know he's not in the starting Xi, right? Right?

Or did I ruin your joke?

[kmarinouofm]

Good luck to team USA, its going to be tough to get 3 points tomorrow but 1 point is up for grabs.

I guess Team England Couldn't fly in a "FLYING V" huh Might Duck?

USA USA

[kmarinouofm]

guys this england team is over rated.. plus they are not a group.. i won't be surprised to see them play very flat tomorrow..

tomorrow might be team USA biggest game EVER... england.. ehhh .. this is probably the weakest team England has ever put together.. while the Strongest USA has ever had..

Donovan is world Class.. he has proven that.. Dempsey as well.. We will all be Onyewu fan's by the time this team has played through this group.. Howard is a solid goalie.. we got a shot.. if we win or tie tomorrow we have a very good chance of winning this group guys.. seriously i have seen this team start to come together over the last two years... I know they are ready.. I can feel that they are ready.. Tomorrow .. they will show everyone they are ready..

They will not let us down.. DONT TREAD ON US.. LETS GO TEAM USA

We WILL ALL BE ONEYWU FANS BY THE END OF THIS GROUP!!!

[Dark Horse]

Write it down for the rest of your lives. England always thinks they can win the World Cup. But they are no better than an average European side. They bring nothing special.