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    Iím more convinced now than ever that Democracy is not going to last.

    It moves too slow and the last 20 years have been two evenly balanced sides in a deadlock. America is falling behind because of this.it will only get worse.

    Itís time we pick a leader in their 40ís/50ís, put them on the throne and ride or die

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    This wonít fail...

    Saloon this shit!!!

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    It has only been around a couple of hundred years. People prefer dictatorships. The US will have one eventually.

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    A failed experiment indeed. Been obvious for the last decade, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    It has only been around a couple of hundred years. People prefer dictatorships. The US will have one eventually.
    We just did

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    We badly need a 3rd political party. Both parties are so far from what I consider "mainstream".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    It moves too slow and the last 20 years have been two evenly balanced sides in a deadlock. America is falling behind because of this.it will only get worse.
    Some would say America is falling behind because of all the laws and regulations, not because of a lack of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I’m more convinced now than ever that Democracy is not going to last.

    It moves too slow and the last 20 years have been two evenly balanced sides in a deadlock. America is falling behind because of this.it will only get worse.

    It’s time we pick a leader in their 40’s/50’s, put them on the throne and ride or die
    Giving everybody Free $#!T from the government is NOT 'Democracy' - it's called 'Communism' or 'Socialism'. It's what Bernie, AOC, and most of the Tards are trying to push for, and why America is going down the toilet. Stop handing out Free $#!T, get your lazy A$$ to work, pay your fair share of taxes for things like infrastructure, transportation, military, police, fire, etc. QUIT RELYING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT YOU - we'd be living in a FU##ING UTOPIA!!!!!

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    Right.

    And the Corporate Fukks™ get no free s#it at all???

    Cut the cable and step away from both Fox News & CNN. You'll live a better life.

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    Oh, it's just fine so long as you don't let people who are subsidized by the government, vote for the government.

    That's called socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Oh, it's just fine so long as you don't let people who are subsidized by the government, vote for the government.

    That's called socialism.
    Yeh! Screw all of those farmers, big oil-gas-coal companies, and all the corporations that receive tax subsidies in order to operate, or relocate and/or build, and all of the people who work as contractors and/or for businesses that rely on big gov subsidies.

    I guess that should clear up the voter registries.

    Basically only people that work for themselves and don't receive 1 cent from a gov subsidy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Giving everybody Free $#!T from the government is NOT 'Democracy' - it's called 'Communism' or 'Socialism'. It's what Bernie, AOC, and most of the Tards are trying to push for, and why America is going down the toilet. Stop handing out Free $#!T, get your lazy A$$ to work, pay your fair share of taxes for things like infrastructure, transportation, military, police, fire, etc. QUIT RELYING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT YOU - we'd be living in a FU##ING UTOPIA!!!!!
    Hey CHUMP. Your a fool and allow yourself to look like a fool.. Your one of the more ignorant right wing whackos here on SBR screaming about Socialism....Free shyte, free shyte that's all you lowlifes talk about.. You never bring up the fact that Douchebag Don turned farmers into welfare kings and queens with FREE SYTE like 30-50 Billion dollars. You never bring up the FACT that Douchebag Don gave billions of FREE SHYTE to airlines to make them into welfare Kings. WTF is wrong with you. You don't bring up the FACT that the government has given fukking BILLIONS of FREE SHYTE to oil, gas and coal companies over the years. The ones that scream the loudest like jerks like you more than likely have received FREE GOVERNMENT SHYTE over the years. Get some new material because yours is old fukking news...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Hey CHUMP. Your a fool and allow yourself to look like a fool.. Your one of the more ignorant right wing whackos here on SBR screaming about Socialism....Free shyte, free shyte that's all you lowlifes talk about.. You never bring up the fact that Douchebag Don turned farmers into welfare kings and queens with FREE SYTE like 30-50 Billion dollars. You never bring up the FACT that Douchebag Don gave billions of FREE SHYTE to airlines to make them into welfare Kings. WTF is wrong with you. You don't bring up the FACT that the government has given fukking BILLIONS of FREE SHYTE to oil, gas and coal companies over the years. The ones that scream the loudest like jerks like you more than likely have received FREE GOVERNMENT SHYTE over the years. Get some new material because yours is old fukking news...
    Tax incentives and subsidies aren’t ‘Free $#!T’ - this is what’s wrong with you Tards, you don’t see big picture. Remember the Tard~B!+ch rep from California that told Elon Musk to go ‘FU## Himself’? Where did he go? Texas. Taking all the revenue, jobs, employees who would’ve stimulated the local economy boosting local restaurants, shops, etc., etc., etc.

    How about how proud AOC was for running Amazon out of NY? Once again….. Hey AOC, there’s no ‘Fight For $15’ minimum wage when there’s NO FU##ING JOBS, YA FU##ING MORON!

    Obviously, you don’t get how America works, because you sound just as dumb and clueless as your hero AOC. Quit dreaming about Hockey C0cks, get a job, and pay your fair share. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

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    Democracy always fails the United States used to be a constitutional republic but the powers that be have been chipping away at it for at least 75 years.

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    Weíre in like the top 0.0000001% as far as quality of life goes In human history but everyone still bitches. Thereís something weird about democracy that does work as long as you convince both sides things are going to shit. Seems to average out and work out in long run. Today I saw a baseball game. Went to dog park. Ate a burger. Had an omelette. Drove my car. Drank wine from New Zealand. Never had to fight in a war. Didnít have to raise a cow or chickens. Wouldnít even know where to start to make a car or this computer in my hands. Didnít have to tame a wolf to be my friend. Never fukin been to New Zealand. But yeh this democracy shit is so terrible. Letís just go back to caveman days
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Giving everybody Free $#!T from the government is NOT 'Democracy' - it's called 'Communism' or 'Socialism'. It's what Bernie, AOC, and most of the Tards are trying to push for, and why America is going down the toilet. Stop handing out Free $#!T, get your lazy A$$ to work, pay your fair share of taxes for things like infrastructure, transportation, military, police, fire, etc. QUIT RELYING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT YOU - we'd be living in a FU##ING UTOPIA!!!!!
    The system is rigged. Yeah, and fukk you too. Fukk all your corporate bailouts. Those 2 2 2 2 2 big too fail banks, too big to fail bust-out cheat-ass smoking pot on their 4 hour work breaks big 3. Too big 3 to fail. Fukk them too. Fukk all your corporations. And since your country is just one big bully corporation..fukk them too. I've had enough of shitheads.

    I wouldn't lose a day of sleep if real aliens dropped down and bombed your ass into oblivion just like you did to the whole world the since WW2. Fukk you!

    And fukk paying anymore taxes. This country was founded on not paying them. No money for Police? Yeah, disband them and see what the fukk happens........maybe some scores can be settled the right way, and sure, some good people will fall to the shit ones.....but more shit ones will fall......since the system protects pieces of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Hey CHUMP. Your a fool and allow yourself to look like a fool.. Your one of the more ignorant right wing whackos here on SBR screaming about Socialism....Free shyte, free shyte that's all you lowlifes talk about.. You never bring up the fact that Douchebag Don turned farmers into welfare kings and queens with FREE SYTE like 30-50 Billion dollars. You never bring up the FACT that Douchebag Don gave billions of FREE SHYTE to airlines to make them into welfare Kings. WTF is wrong with you. You don't bring up the FACT that the government has given fukking BILLIONS of FREE SHYTE to oil, gas and coal companies over the years. The ones that scream the loudest like jerks like you more than likely have received FREE GOVERNMENT SHYTE over the years. Get some new material because yours is old fukking news...
    And fukk Trump too. Bozo the clown piece of shit. Rich cawksucker that begged from bankers his whole life.Every time he failed, some rich banker that fukks us all over was there to bail his ass out. He's just another con-artist, liar, cheater, ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS OWN BANK ACCOUNTS AND PROPERTIES. IF ALL OF AMERICA TANKS, THEN HIS SHIT TANKS TOO AND THAT'S THE ONLY WORRY HE HAS.

    FUKK THE RICH BANK-BAILED-OUT PIECE OF SHIT. HOPE HE ROTS IN HELL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Tax incentives and subsidies aren’t ‘Free $#!T’ - this is what’s wrong with you Tards, you don’t see big picture. Remember the Tard~B!+ch rep from California that told Elon Musk to go ‘FU## Himself’? Where did he go? Texas. Taking all the revenue, jobs, employees who would’ve stimulated the local economy boosting local restaurants, shops, etc., etc., etc.

    How about how proud AOC was for running Amazon out of NY? Once again….. Hey AOC, there’s no ‘Fight For $15’ minimum wage when there’s NO FU##ING JOBS, YA FU##ING MORON!

    Obviously, you don’t get how America works, because you sound just as dumb and clueless as your hero AOC. Quit dreaming about Hockey C0cks, get a job, and pay your fair share. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
    Look up the definition of subsidy before pretending you know what it means.
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    Founding fathers were never proponents of universal suffrage. There are always more losers than winners and they knew they would eventually have the numbers to vote themselves the winners chit. They knew this would end in disaster. It's the old analogy of the cart. Eventually everyone is riding in the cart and noone is left to push the cart. The guys pushing eventually say f&%k it, what's the point and quit pushing. Then you need only look at Venezuela to see the end result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharaohUB View Post
    We’re in like the top 0.0000001% as far as quality of life goes In human history but everyone still bitches. There’s something weird about democracy that does work as long as you convince both sides things are going to shit. Seems to average out and work out in long run. Today I saw a baseball game. Went to dog park. Ate a burger. Had an omelette. Drove my car. Drank wine from New Zealand. Never had to fight in a war. Didn’t have to raise a cow or chickens. Wouldn’t even know where to start to make a car or this computer in my hands. Didn’t have to tame a wolf to be my friend. Never fukin been to New Zealand. But yeh this democracy shit is so terrible. Let’s just go back to caveman days
    Exactly. Great post Pharaoh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy View Post
    Tax incentives and subsidies aren’t ‘Free $#!T’ - this is what’s wrong with you Tards, you don’t see big picture. Remember the Tard~B!+ch rep from California that told Elon Musk to go ‘FU## Himself’? Where did he go? Texas. Taking all the revenue, jobs, employees who would’ve stimulated the local economy boosting local restaurants, shops, etc., etc., etc.

    How about how proud AOC was for running Amazon out of NY? Once again….. Hey AOC, there’s no ‘Fight For $15’ minimum wage when there’s NO FU##ING JOBS, YA FU##ING MORON!

    Obviously, you don’t get how America works, because you sound just as dumb and clueless as your hero AOC. Quit dreaming about Hockey C0cks, get a job, and pay your fair share. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
    Hey CHUMP, i'm semi-retired living very comfortably on a 6 figure income. More than likely pay more Federal Income Taxes, 33,000.00 for 2020 than you earn in a whole year you fukking lowlife. I've worked since i was 10 years old, never drawing any FREE SHYTE like you, wasn't it you last month begging for another stimulus ck from Biden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PharaohUB View Post
    We’re in like the top 0.0000001% as far as quality of life goes In human history but everyone still bitches. There’s something weird about democracy that does work as long as you convince both sides things are going to shit. Seems to average out and work out in long run. Today I saw a baseball game. Went to dog park. Ate a burger. Had an omelette. Drove my car. Drank wine from New Zealand. Never had to fight in a war. Didn’t have to raise a cow or chickens. Wouldn’t even know where to start to make a car or this computer in my hands. Didn’t have to tame a wolf to be my friend. Never fukin been to New Zealand. But yeh this democracy shit is so terrible. Let’s just go back to caveman days

    Good post - if you're 'hungry & homeless' in America, that's on you. Where else has so much opportunities to advance yourself if you're willing to work for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Hey CHUMP, i'm semi-retired living very comfortably on a 6 figure income. More than likely pay more Federal Income Taxes, 33,000.00 for 2020 than you earn in a whole year you fukking lowlife. I've worked since i was 10 years old, never drawing any FREE SHYTE like you, wasn't it you last month begging for another stimulus ck from Biden?
    Good for you, then WTF are you crying about? Sounds like you're living the Democratic American Dream - now pass it along to your fellow Tards like AOC and we'll all have a Merry Christmas.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    Oh, it's just fine so long as you don't let people who are subsidized by the government, vote for the government.

    That's called socialism.
    This is why democracies will eventually fail but only in multiethnic diverse societies like the USA
    has recently become:

    Morales followed the path of Chavez by arousing the political consciousness
    of his Aymara tribe & other indigenous peoples to power in 2005.
    Peoples of the Andean Highlands the ethnic majority proved that in multiethnic countries democracy can
    become a toxic cocktail. Free markets concentrated wealth in the hands of those of Spanish descent in the lowlands
    of Santa Cruz until Morales. With the forces of democracy emerged a demagogue Morales to meet the demands of the
    impovershed demanding a large share of the wealth. The rise of Commies like Morales & Chavez should be a 'canary
    in the coal mine' warning here at home. After all, Every American child born after 2001, that is born in the 21st
    century belongs to a generation more 3rd world than European.

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    The $36,000 average median income in the US puts you in the TOP 1% ON PLANET EARTH! Stimmy checks raining down and employers PRACTICALLY BEGGING YOU TO COME WORK FOR THEM and all you hear about is racism and white supremacy and the mean cop who was rightfully on edge pulling over a stupid asphalt ape with a rap sheet that is 72 inches long with repeated firearm offences. This country is SO RIFE WITH OPPORTUNITY right now that people are stacking fat cash videoing their cat playing the piano or chitting on the toilet. I guess its just alot easier to be a victim than take responsibility for yourself. To get ones act together would indicate they had the ability to do it all along and they really were never held back at all by dwight man or the jews or anyone else. It is kinda of a viscous trap and I TRULY SYMPATHIZE....ive been in failure loops when I was younger. Just dont see how playing the victim moves you foward, thats all
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    It's called a MIXED-ECONOMY our Republic has been a mix of Capitalism and Social Programs for a long F'n time.

    "Direct subsidies are those that involve an actual payment of funds toward a particular individual, group or industry. Indirect subsidies are those that do not hold a predetermined monetary value or involve actual cash outlays. They can include activities such as price reductions for required goods or services that can be government-supported. This allows the needed items to be purchased below the current market rate, resulting in a savings for those the subsidy is designed to help.

    There are many forms of subsidies given out by the government. Two of the most common types of individual subsidies are welfare payments and unemployment benefits. The objective of these types of subsidies is to help people who are temporarily suffering economically. Other subsidies, such as subsidized interest rates on student loans, are given to encourage people to further their education. "

    "Subsidies to businesses are given to support an industry that is struggling against international competition that has lowered prices, such that the domestic business is not profitable without the subsidy. Historically, the vast majority of subsidies in the United States have gone towards four industries: agriculture, financial institutions, oil companies, and utilities companies."

    "Development theory suggests that some industries need protection from external competition to maximize domestic benefit. Technically speaking, a free market economy is free of subsidies; introducing one transforms it into a mixed economy. Economists and policy makers often debate the merits of subsidies, and by extension, the degree to which an economy should be a mixed one.

    Pro-subsidy economists argue that subsidies to particular industries are vital to help support businesses and the jobs they create. Other economists feel free market forces should determine if a business survives or fails; if it fails, those resources are allocated to a more efficient and profitable use. They argue that subsidies to these businesses simply sustain an inefficient allocation of resources."

    "Free market economists are wary of subsidies for a variety of reasons. Some argue that subsidies unnecessarily distort markets, preventing efficient outcomes and diverting resources from more productive uses to less productive ones. Similar concerns come from those who suggest economic calculation is too inexact and microeconomic models are too unrealistic to ever correctly calculate the impact of market failure. Others suggest that government spending on subsidies is never as effective as government projections claim they will be. The costs and unintended consequences of applying subsidies are rarely worth it, they claim.

    Another problem, antagonists point out, is that the act of subsidizing helps corrupt the political process. According to political theories of regulatory capture and rent-seeking, subsidies exist as part of an unholy alliance between big business and the state. Companies often turn to government to shield themselves from competition. In turn, businesses donate to politicians or promise them benefits after their political careers.

    Even if a subsidy is created with good intentions, without any conspiracy or self-seeking, it raises the profits of those receiving beneficial treatment, and so creates an incentive to lobby for its continuance, even after the need or its usefulness runs out. This potentially allows political and business interests to create a mutual benefit at the expense of taxpayers and/or competitive firms or industries."

    "In terms of pragmatic political economy, a subsidy is successful from the point of view of its proponents if it succeeds in transferring wealth to its beneficiaries and contributing to the re-election of its political backers. The strongest advocates of subsidies tend to be those who directly or indirectly gain from them, and the political incentive to "bring home the bacon" to secure support from special interests is a powerful lure for politicians and policy makers."

    "Direct subsidies are those that involve an actual payment of funds toward a particular individual, group or industry. Indirect subsidies are those that do not hold a predetermined monetary value or involve actual cash outlays. These can include activities such as price reductions for required goods or services that can be government-supported. This allows the needed items to be purchased below the current market rate, resulting in a savings for those the subsidy is designed to help."

    [What Is the Position of Subsidy Advocates?
    Subsidies exist in mixed economies. Proponents argue that subsidies to particular industries are vital to help support businesses and the jobs they create. They further contend that subsidies are justifiable to provide the socially optimal level of goods and services which will lead to economic efficiency. They also cite the general equilibrium theory which states that subsidies are necessary when a market failure causes too little production in a specific area."

    [What Is the Position of Subsidy Opponents?
    Technically speaking, a free market economy is free of subsidies. Subsidy opponents feel free market forces should determine if a business survives or fails. If it fails, those resources will be allocated to a more efficient and profitable use. They argue that subsidies unnecessarily distort markets, preventing efficient outcomes as resources are diverted from more productive uses to less productive ones. They also contend that the act of subsidizing helps corrupt the political process."
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    "Democracy will fail."

    ...

    Like it failed in north korea and venezuela.

    And people think they'll be better off that way?



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    I'm simply point out that our democracy will fail. i love our country and lifestyle, but there is nothing magical about our constitution or democracy itself. its all an experiment that requires a lot of nurturing and compromise.

    Those days are over.

    Our country is as divided as its ever been and only getting worse. Government is at a standstill and the only form of governing rn is executive orders.

    It will last our lifetime but we're in the homestretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I'm simply point out that our democracy will fail. i love our country and lifestyle, but there is nothing magical about our constitution or democracy itself. its all an experiment that requires a lot of nurturing and compromise.

    Those days are over.

    Our country is as divided as its ever been and only getting worse. Government is at a standstill and the only form of governing rn is executive orders.

    It will last our lifetime but we're in the homestretch.
    Not a religious person but I agree with what youíre saying and itís lack of faith that is destroying our country. The sheeple need direction to be moral. Otherwise most people are just assholes. Especially women. Society is going to shit but really that means women are going to shit. Men usually can form their own opinions and operate less on emotion.
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    Things aren't looking the best. But people are waking up.

    In 2008 I was the only one (I know of) saying obamacare would make healthcare in the USA much more expensive.

    It was impossible to get anyone to take issues like the deficit seriously back then.

    2020 rolls around. You have people who saw their health insurance costs double or triple after obamacare was passed, getting in their boats & doing things like this.

    ...






    I used to be the only dum dum I know saying the deficit was an issue.

    Now a lot of people are saying it.

    People are waking up. Will it be enough to make a difference, I don't know.

    It might be fair to say, it won't be a blowout easy win for either side.

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