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    Forget about going to Mars.. SPACE X out..

    I was a fan of SpaceX and Musk and the dream to go to Mars even though I thought it was to dangerous and risky.. Radiation, duration of flight, mini meteor strikes to ship, risk of landing and take off to great. Death mission but I still loved the dream.

    This news broke out yesterday..
    https://patch.com/california/longbea...erminal-island


    My hunch is California taxes were to high.. California crusher of hopes and dreams for space travel now..

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    Shame they/we can't even get to somewhere that close.

    No matter how many years away it is, eventually this planet will be out of resources.

    Once everything is sucked out of the Earth, that's it.

    We have to have a backup plan.

    Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever find a way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Shame they/we can't even get to somewhere that close.

    No matter how many years away it is, eventually this planet will be out of resources.

    Once everything is sucked out of the Earth, that's it.

    We have to have a backup plan.

    Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever find a way
    Try to set up on the moon first I say.. Baby steps first. Space X and Musk shooting for the stars to soon.. We don't have the technology yet for that journey to Mars without MAJOR risk..

    Love to see some kind of set up on the moon first.. If you can't do it on the moon first you sure as hell won't be able to do it on Mars..

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    The goal is to set up a colony in order to save humanity. Sort of a back up plan in case armageddon strikes on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    The goal is to set up a colony in order to save humanity. Sort of a back up plan in case armageddon strikes on earth.
    Well the dream is crushed for now.. Something went major wrong in California for Musk to call it quits.. I'm very disappointed Thrilla to say the least.. ..

    I'm a fan of SpaceX, growth and innovation drives humanity.. Dare to Dream and push it is just awesome!!!!


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    So many planets they've found that may be Earth-like.

    Even if we somehow discovered some type of warp speed some day, I don't think it matters.

    What happens if you're trying to get from point A to point B at an accelerated speed?

    *Kaboom*

    Crash & Burn.

    Not like it's a clear path.

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    Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it sounds like they are not abandoning plans to Mars but rather are abandoning California as the launch location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    So many planets they've found that maybe Earth-like.

    Even if we somehow discovered some type if warp speed some day, I don't think it matters.

    What happens if you're trying to go from point A to point B in waro speed?

    *Kaboom*

    Crash & Burn.

    Not like it's a clear path.
    Yup space travel is very dangerous, why do you think more men haven't landed on the moon yet? We don't have warp or worm hole travel yet, not even close.. We need another alien space craft to crash so we can reverse engineer it.

    We are babies here on earth just over populating and slowly destroying our planet.. Greed and selfishness is our down fall for humanity.. I so hope I'm wrong though.. Keeping it real.. We all know this deep down inside and we choose to live for the moment rather then the future anyways..

    Take rather then give sucks especially when you have something to give in life.. I fall short of glory in that department and it haunts me.. I prayed for wisdom and got it.. Don't live up to it though .. Trying.. Posting on SBR in the Saloon isn't reaching the heads I wanna reach perhaps but ya never know???..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Love to see some kind of set up on the moon first.. If you can't do it on the moon first you sure as hell won't be able to do it on Mars..
    Makes sense to me. The fact it has not been tried really makes you wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    Makes sense to me. The fact it has not been tried really makes you wonder.
    Been there done that already maybe? The moon hype is gone.. No real accomplishment at this point.. Won't get the funding or hype needed with moon missions perhaps?

    Although if you set up a international colony station on the moon surface rather then the washed up obsolete international space station in our own orbit that would be a giant step going forward.. Mars is asking for to much right now.. That's just my take.

    Again baby steps needed I think.. Funding needed as well for sure. Billionaires with wild imaginations don't grow on trees last I checked.. Elon Musk is one of the few and that's why I'm a fan of his...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
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    wait, what

    jibby did you even read the article?

    they just arent doing it there due to materials

    whether thats the real reason or not doesnt matter...they arent discontinuing the project

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    I'm subscribed to Space X as a volunteer

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    wait, what

    jibby did you even read the article?

    they just arent doing it there due to materials

    whether thats the real reason or not doesnt matter...they arent discontinuing the project
    Moving to Texas.. Got it.. https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-sta...op-tests-near/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    yes, i know

    it took me posting for you to know though

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    yes, i know

    it took me posting for you to know though
    The real point of my thread was to bash California for it's high taxes and people will now be out jobs with this move. The continued squeeze on the California wealthy is forcing businesses and people to move. Property owners are getting squeezed also with new licensing, property tax increases, city inspection fees, rent control, etc.

    Did you read into that Rudy? I don't think you did.. Musk avoids coming out and saying just that, California State taxes are to high.. I read into that clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    The real point of my thread was to bash California for it's high taxes
    well maybe bash California in the thread title

    instead the title is

    Forget about going to Mars

    you are fake news bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    well maybe bash California in the thread title

    instead the title is

    Forget about going to Mars

    you are fake news bro
    This certainly slows down the program on going to Mars gotta give me that much..

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    Some ppl believe in God and that he will return some day.

    Some don't believe in that.

    I say you need a backup plan just in case we are alone.

    Have to inhabit other planets eventually or humanity is doomed.

    It's simple math & logic really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    So many planets they've found that may be Earth-like.
    The truth is that they haven't found any planets or moons that are Earth-like. Everything you read in cheezy news articles and in CGI tv shows is nothing more than an artist's work when it comes to "Earth-like" planets. Basically, all they do is interpret data. The data is not visual outside our solar system. For example, they will track and monitor small dips in the light from a star over time. If that dip repeats and is regular, it is an orbital object. Based on the size and spectrography, they can infer some chemical contents, maybe. These supposed gaseous contents (based on specrography only) are guesses, as is the temperature. We don't know if there are other planets like Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Some ppl believe in God and that he will return some day.

    Some don't believe in that.

    I say you need a backup plan just in case we are alone.

    Have to inhabit other planets eventually or humanity is doomed.

    It's simple math & logic really.
    can you explain the math and logic part what do you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The truth is that they haven't found any planets or moons that are Earth-like. Everything you read in cheezy news articles and in CGI tv shows is nothing more than an artist's work when it comes to "Earth-like" planets. Basically, all they do is interpret data. The data is not visual outside our solar system. For example, they will track and monitor small dips in the light from a star over time. If that dip repeats and is regular, it is an orbital object. Based on the size and spectrography, they can infer some chemical contents, maybe. These supposed gaseous contents (based on specrography only) are guesses, as is the temperature. We don't know if there are other planets like Earth.


    Agree to disagree




    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    can you explain the math and logic part what do you mean




    That nothing lasts forever.

    Stick a straw in a grapefruit & suck on it & it shrivels up.

    Eventually this planet's resources will be depleted.

    No matter if it's 100 years from now or 1,000, it's gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Agree to disagree
    facts matter. everything i said is a verifiable, objective fact.
    headlines, art and tv documentaries are entertainment.
    this is science... and no earth-like planet has ever been seen or can be demonstrated to be certain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post










    That nothing lasts forever.

    Stick a straw in a grapefruit & suck on it & it shrivels up.

    Eventually this planet's resources will be depleted.

    No matter if it's 100 years from now or 1,000, it's gonna happen.
    says who? consider the source, I know to not believe what theyre selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    This certainly slows down the program on going to Mars gotta give me that much..
    no.

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