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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #36
    Originally posted by vitterd
    Have you talked to any American farmer? They are now accepting welfare because of that beautiful thing.
    CNN and the fake news wont dare tell you Trump haters this in the link below..

    China is abusing America and this should have been dealt with under Obama.. We are financing a world power with our negative money flow trade with China.. Trump finally stepped up!!! Is trying to help the farmers now with the trade war.

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    • khicks26
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-16-06
      • 45704

      #37
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      • Sanity Check
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-30-13
        • 10962

        #38
        Originally posted by rkelly110
        Please check your sanity......

        The fed "reblowing bubbles" and needing to raise rates to "prevent economic overheating".

        These are your modern day equivalents to trickle down economics under MMT -- modern monetary theory.

        The media never stopped pushing things like trickle down they merely invented new bogus names and terms to achieve the same flawed effects.
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        • guitarjosh
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-25-07
          • 5809

          #39
          Originally posted by Sanity Check
          Nearly every single candidate running for office over the past 50 years repeated Bush's "Read my lips, I won't raise taxes" promise.

          THEN all of them raised taxes. "A candidate who won't raise my taxes." You'd have better luck finding legit unicorns in disneyland.

          The ideology of the fed raising rates to promote widespread and comprehensive economic effects is like that old cartoon where George Jetson sits at a desk all day pushing a single red button. The fed raising or lowering rates is a form of fake news mythology designed to prevent people from understanding the economics of how the world really works.

          There are real problems in the world and the fed "reblowing bubbles" is not one of them.

          If you want another example remember when fake news said the fed needed to "raise rates to prevent the economy from overheating". Doesn't. Even. Make. Sense. That was more fake news mythology designed to prevent people from understanding what was really happening.
          What taxes did W. raise?

          The cost to borrow money is vital to this economy. If you're saying there isn't much interest rates matter to an economy, you don't understand the economy.

          I agree the Fed doesn't need to raise rates to prevent the economy from overheating. The economy isn't an engine in a car. The Philips Curve is only accurate about 50% of the time. That said, when rates are lower, people will take on more risk, which will cause bubbles to form.
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          • Sanity Check
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-30-13
            • 10962

            #40
            Originally posted by guitarjosh
            What taxes did W. raise?

            The cost to borrow money is vital to this economy. If you're saying there isn't much interest rates matter to an economy, you don't understand the economy.

            I agree the Fed doesn't need to raise rates to prevent the economy from overheating. The economy isn't an engine in a car. The Philips Curve is only accurate about 50% of the time. That said, when rates are lower, people will take on more risk, which will cause bubbles to form.


            In the USA politicians have raised gas taxes, sugar beverage taxes, estate taxes. They hike every tax other than income taxes. Fake news comes along and spins things: "taxes in america aren't increasing as income taxes haven't moved". They compare US income taxes to european income taxes to fool people into believing america is a nation of "low taxation".

            There's never an effort made to calculate the real or effective tax rate which is what people pay when taxes outside of the income tax are surveyed.

            Fake news fools people into believing the fed can deploy widespread and comprehensive fiscal policy via adjusting rates. Like income taxes, this fools people into believing there is no real economic change being implemented as long as rates remain steady.

            Donald Trump cutting the corporate tax carried far more widespread implications for the US economy than the fed raising or lowering rates ever could. This is the type of area outside of the fed adjusting rates they don't want people looking at or being knowledgeable of.

            Fed rate changes are mostly a distraction intended to prevent people from recognizing real issues. Identical to how income taxes are a distraction from real and relevent topics as far as taxation goes.

            .

            Does anyone remember how americans gave native american indians blankets contaminated with smallpox?

            That's what mainstream media commentary on taxes or fed rates amounts to these days: smallpox blankets. Hopping on the bandwagon is a path to destruction. Literally.
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            • rkelly110
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 10-05-09
              • 39691

              #41
              Originally posted by Sanity Check
              The fed "reblowing bubbles" and needing to raise rates to "prevent economic overheating".

              These are your modern day equivalents to trickle down economics under MMT -- modern monetary theory.

              The media never stopped pushing things like trickle down they merely invented new bogus names and terms to achieve the same flawed effects.
              You know the "fed" is a private entity, right? That means we are at their mercy. Markets went up with the fed lowering
              of rates, what does dumb fuk do, raises tariff rates. Markets drop like a rock. Your boy is an ass hole.
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              • Sanity Check
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-30-13
                • 10962

                #42
                Originally posted by rkelly110
                You know the "fed" is a private entity, right? That means we are at their mercy. Markets went up with the fed lowering
                of rates, what does dumb fuk do, raises tariff rates. Markets drop like a rock. Your boy is an ass hole.
                The federal reserve is america's loose equivalent to the european union.

                Both the fed and EU are shadow organizations run by anonymous puppet masters lurking behind curtains. Both are designed to strip people of their sovereign rights and freedom to govern themselves.

                Markets rise and fall in perpetuity. Blaming Trump for a small pullback after a tweet is insignificant and politically biased within the grand scheme of things.
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                • Sanity Check
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-30-13
                  • 10962

                  #43
                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                  I cant figure out what China is trying to do here
                  China is cutting their nose to spite their face....they are out of horses to trade, and may have to accept total economic defeat here in 6 months
                  Communists in china are working in conjunction with communist democrats inside the USA and the communist fake news media which backs both demographics.
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                  • MinnesotaFats
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #44
                    Originally posted by chico2663
                    your mistake is thinking that china is a democracy.
                    It's "board" or whatever the ruling committee is called is still beholden to the economics of cities like Hong Kong, Shanghai, Bejing, etc

                    Hundreds of millions of city dwellers rely upon jobs in construction and hospitality now...

                    The issue isn't whether it's a democratic country but rather whether its economy is rural agriculture or urban development and tech.
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                    • Shafted69
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-04-08
                      • 6412

                      #45
                      Drumpf's hedge fund buddies and comrade Oligarchs are making a killing. Probably they get advanced notice before he says something stupid.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103608

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Shafted69
                        Drumpf's hedge fund buddies and comrade Oligarchs are making a killing. Probably they get advanced notice before he says something stupid.
                        too bad we don't get advanced notice when you post.
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                        • HockeyRocks
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-10-13
                          • 6069

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                          Our representatives have just returned from China where they had constructive talks having to do with a future Trade Deal. We thought we had a deal with China three months ago, but sadly, China decided to re-negotiate the deal prior to signing. More recently, China agreed to...

                          ...buy agricultural product from the U.S. in large quantities, but did not do so. Additionally, my friend President Xi said that he would stop the sale of Fentanyl to the United States – this never happened, and many Americans continue to die! Trade talks are continuing, and...

                          ..during the talks the U.S. will start, on September 1st, putting a small additional Tariff of 10% on the remaining 300 Billion Dollars of goods and products coming from China into our Country. This does not include the 250 Billion Dollars already Tariffed at 25%...


                          https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

                          .


                          China didn't hold up their side of the trade deal ^

                          Clearly all Trump's fault cuz leftists who don't understand markets said so.
                          You fukking buffoon, you have NO idea whether your Sleazebag Don's claims are fact or fiction. These are the consequences of being a pathological LIAR...
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                          • HockeyRocks
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-10-13
                            • 6069

                            #48
                            The DJ is within 500 points of where it was on 1-1-2018....Its been going sideways for over 18 months now and will continue to do that until

                            Sleazebag Don learns to shut his ignorant stupid mouth....Some here on SBR brag and run their gums about new highs...New highs in this Trump administration means NOTHING...Tell Sleazebag to not be so stupid.
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                            • RoyBacon
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                              • 09-21-05
                              • 37074

                              #49
                              Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                              The DJ is within 500 points of where it was on 1-1-2018....Its been going sideways for over 18 months now and will continue to do that until

                              Sleazebag Don learns to shut his ignorant stupid mouth....Some here on SBR brag and run their gums about new highs...New highs in this Trump administration means NOTHING...Tell Sleazebag to not be so stupid.
                              newsflash! markets go up and down.

                              Bottomline is market is UP 40%+ since The Man of the People was elected.
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39995

                                #50
                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                newsflash! markets go up and down.

                                Bottomline is market is UP 40%+ since The Man of the People was elected.
                                FWIW I think it's closer to 30% at the moment. Meh.
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                                • HockeyRocks
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-10-13
                                  • 6069

                                  #51
                                  Chump b acon
                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                  FWIW I think it's closer to 30% at the moment. Meh.
                                  One thing we do know is that since 1-1-2018 the market has gone nowhere....18 months and NO gains...bacon never talks ab out that..
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                                  • RoyBacon
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                                    • 09-21-05
                                    • 37074

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                    Chump b acon
                                    One thing we do know is that since 1-1-2018 the market has gone nowhere....18 months and NO gains...bacon never talks ab out that..
                                    You dont measure from the high to the high duffus.

                                    Trump's market is up over 1% a month for over 30 months. A beautiful market!
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                                    • khicks26
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-16-06
                                      • 45704

                                      #53
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                                      • DwightShrute
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 103608

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                                        Chump b acon
                                        One thing we do know is that since 1-1-2018 the market has gone nowhere....18 months and NO gains...bacon never talks ab out that..
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                                        • Thor4140
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 22296

                                          #55
                                          Trump just sent out another blatant lie of a tweet that America isn't paying anything for these tariffs. Most know his base are the dumbest cok suckers in the country but I have faith in them. I actually believe even they won't fall for this bullshit scenario.
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                                          • rkelly110
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                                            • 10-05-09
                                            • 39691

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            Trump just sent out another blatant lie of a tweet that America isn't paying anything for these tariffs. Most know his base are the dumbest cok suckers in the country but I have faith in them. I actually believe even they won't fall for this bullshit scenario.


                                            You'd be wrong. Don't ever underestimate your opponent. We learned that in '16.
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                                            • Thor4140
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-09-08
                                              • 22296

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by rkelly110
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                                              You'd be wrong. Don't ever underestimate your opponent. We learned that in '16.
                                              You think RK? Can they even believe this bullshit. Roy did say Trump is doing it because he loved the country so much. Lol, LOL, OOOOHHHHH, LOL.
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                                              • chico2663
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                                                • 09-02-10
                                                • 36915

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                What taxes did W. raise?

                                                The cost to borrow money is vital to this economy. If you're saying there isn't much interest rates matter to an economy, you don't understand the economy.

                                                I agree the Fed doesn't need to raise rates to prevent the economy from overheating. The economy isn't an engine in a car. The Philips Curve is only accurate about 50% of the time. That said, when rates are lower, people will take on more risk, which will cause bubbles to form.
                                                it was papa bush who said this. then he raised taxes in the omnibus bill
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
                                                  • 36915

                                                  #59
                                                  Why we were looking at the russians it has always been the saudi's fukking us.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 36915

                                                    #60
                                                    i better get to cincy to get my sks before kamala tries to steal our guns.
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                                                    • Sanity Check
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-30-13
                                                      • 10962

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                      Trump just sent out another blatant lie of a tweet that America isn't paying anything for these tariffs. Most know his base are the dumbest cok suckers in the country but I have faith in them. I actually believe even they won't fall for this bullshit scenario.
                                                      Tariffs on china are the correct move. No one said it was perfect or ideal but it is the right policy for the job.

                                                      Most don't know that TV and electronics markets were once dominated by the USA. Japan stole those markets from america due to politicians refusing to regulate markets properly. China is a repeat of this.

                                                      If tariffs aren't employed to force china into treating the US as an equal, rather than bending america over and fukking it in the ass as they have for the past 30+ years.

                                                      Eventually many things of value the US enjoys will be taken over by china. They pirate US copyrighted property CDs, DVDs, blurays. They counterfeit US technology and patented industrial processes. They're robbing your country blind. Democrats want to bend america over so china can fukk us more.

                                                      Trump is doing the right thing despite what fake news media says.
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        • 09-21-05
                                                        • 37074

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                        Trump just sent out another blatant lie of a tweet that America isn't paying anything for these tariffs. Most know his base are the dumbest cok suckers in the country but I have faith in them. I actually believe even they won't fall for this bullshit scenario.

                                                        Kind of A-Fugging-Mazing that tards want more taxes on American businesses, which are direct pass throughs, but don't want them on Chinese companies who may eat them to keep their place in the US market?????

                                                        Can any tard explain that???????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????
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                                                        • Thor4140
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-09-08
                                                          • 22296

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                          Tariffs on china are the correct move. No one said it was perfect or ideal but it is the right policy for the job.

                                                          Most don't know that TV and electronics markets were once dominated by the USA. Japan stole those markets from america due to politicians refusing to regulate markets properly. China is a repeat of this.

                                                          If tariffs aren't employed to force china into treating the US as an equal, rather than bending america over and fukking it in the ass as they have for the past 30+ years.

                                                          Eventually many things of value the US enjoys will be taken over by china. They pirate US copyrighted property CDs, DVDs, blurays. They counterfeit US technology and patented industrial processes. They're robbing your country blind. Democrats want to bend america over so china can fukk us more.

                                                          Trump is doing the right thing despite what fake news media says.
                                                          When this imbecile you enable is done alienating everybody our exports might be down to zero. His giveaway to wall-street is causing massive deficits and debt. Now answer the question are we the American consumer paying for these tariffs or is he telling the truth and we are not.
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                                                          • Thor4140
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-09-08
                                                            • 22296

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                            Kind of A-Fugging-Mazing that tards want more taxes on American businesses, which are direct pass throughs, but don't want them on Chinese companies who may eat them to keep their place in the US market?????

                                                            Can any tard explain that???????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????
                                                            Again are we the American consumer paying for these tariffs or is Trump being straight up when he say's we are not paying one penny for these tariffs u naive fuk.
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                                                            • RoyBacon
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                                                              • 09-21-05
                                                              • 37074

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                              Again are we the American consumer paying for these tariffs or is Trump being straight up when he say's we are not paying one penny for these tariffs u naive fuk.
                                                              So not going to address my question????

                                                              So far the Chinese companies are not passing the cost of the current tariffs on to the US consumer. So far. They are trying to maintain market share and hoping the tariffs will go away.

                                                              It's anticipated that the next round will result in price increases.

                                                              But now are you the same fuggers who want to raise taxes on US companies?????????
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                                                              • Sanity Check
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-30-13
                                                                • 10962

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                When this imbecile you enable is done alienating everybody our exports might be down to zero. His giveaway to wall-street is causing massive deficits and debt. Now answer the question are we the American consumer paying for these tariffs or is he telling the truth and we are not.
                                                                You're repeating word for word what CNN says.

                                                                CNN says its normal for china to steal stealth fighter technology, missile, satellite, defense and industrial technology from the USA.

                                                                Shouldn't china be worried about alienating the USA, europe and everyone else they stole technology from? Which is more or less the entire planet, china has even stolen technology from russia who is supposed to be their ally.

                                                                Why should america be afraid of alienating anyone? The only thing we're doing with tariffs is defending ourselves from china's rampant theft of copyrighted and patented technology.
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                                                                • Thor4140
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                                  • 22296

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                  So not going to address my question????

                                                                  So far the Chinese companies are not passing the cost of the current tariffs on to the US consumer. So far. They are trying to maintain market share and hoping the tariffs will go away.

                                                                  It's anticipated that the next round will result in price increases.

                                                                  But now are you the same fuggers who want to raise taxes on US companies?????????
                                                                  So far lol. As for your question me personally i always have said if you create jobs let the employees pay the taxes and no corporations should pay them so it should be zero. Now here is the problem with this thinking. It won’t be enuf for some of these greeedy fukers. This big windfall will be followed by what they could get next. Maybe let people pay for their own health care or beat down their wages a little more. No matter how much you give these corporations it will never be enuf. So they need to be taxed. When you see what they did with the handout they just got, they will never be happy unless we all work for free.
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                                                                  • Thor4140
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                                    • 22296

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I haven’t watch cnn in weeks. What i am repeating idiot is what all people with an IQ higher that 50 are saying. It isn’t surprising that cnn is saying something so obvious. The guy is a flat out lair and you still are too stupid to see it.
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                                                                    • Sanity Check
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-30-13
                                                                      • 10962

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                      I haven’t watch cnn in weeks. What i am repeating idiot is what all people with an IQ higher that 50 are saying. .
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                                                                      • Evil M.D.
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 07-29-19
                                                                        • 54

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                        So not going to address my question????

                                                                        So far the Chinese companies are not passing the cost of the current tariffs on to the US consumer. So far. They are trying to maintain market share and hoping the tariffs will go away.

                                                                        It's anticipated that the next round will result in price increases.

                                                                        But now are you the same fuggers who want to raise taxes on US companies?????????
                                                                        You have no business in the Markets. You're a straight up moron. #FriedBacon.
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