Don't forget There Is A College Football Game Tonight
E Carolina vs C Florida
Brock Landers
SBR Aristocracy
06-30-08
45359
#2
man, how many more degenerate bowls can ESPN schedule?
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#3
they have these weekday and sunday games to give smaller schools more exposure....there's nothing wrong with it. Just like NIU @ Ball St. this week. That's gonna be a hell of a game, and I'm calling now that NIU pulls the upset
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#4
homer
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#5
seriously though, if you live in the Chicago area, and ever listen to Mac, Jurko, and Harry on espn 1000 in the afternoon... you know Danny Mac went to Ball St. and will be there this week. So i've been hearing about this game for 2 weeks... I hope for Mac's sake, Ball wins
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bigboydan
SBR Aristocracy
08-10-05
55420
#6
Originally posted by Chi_archie
seriously though, if you live in the Chicago area, and ever listen to Mac, Jurko, and Harry on espn 1000 in the afternoon... you know Danny Mac went to Ball St. and will be there this week. So i've been hearing about this game for 2 weeks... I hope for Mac's sake, Ball wins
If I listen to any Chicago sports station it's 670 The Score.
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#7
that's not a homer call....Look at NIU's games this year.....3 losses by a combined 11 points, that includes a loss at minnesota in which they were leading with under a minute to go. A loss at Western michigan by a field goal and a loss at Tennesse by 4. They are minimally going to cover whatever inflated spread comes out
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SportsLockPicks
SBR MVP
12-03-07
3386
#8
lets talk e. carolina vs. c. florida...who knows what?
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SportsLockPicks
SBR MVP
12-03-07
3386
#9
gonna take a serious angle to get my $ off the Patriots
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SportsLockPicks
SBR MVP
12-03-07
3386
#10
although, i did check this game out this week and I hate to say i like the road fav...tougher opponents, better record. C. Florida under 125 passing yds per game..ouch, thats on offense...coulnd't score against a bottom 3 defense in the country in UTEP...this could get ugly the more i think of it....
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#11
im on east carolina personally
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SportsLockPicks
SBR MVP
12-03-07
3386
#12
pats/over pirates/over four winners to end a great day
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#13
Yeah, I honestly see East Carolina running away with this one...They had overinflated lines early in the year, and this one is too low since they started playing poorly
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#14
Originally posted by Dbldown11
that's not a homer call....Look at NIU's games this year.....3 losses by a combined 11 points, that includes a loss at minnesota in which they were leading with under a minute to go. A loss at Western michigan by a field goal and a loss at Tennesse by 4. They are minimally going to cover whatever inflated spread comes out
that is an EXACT homer response.
you are quoting games from AUGUST
and the first week of September
the learning curve is steep in college... in a 1 month period of time there are lots of changes plus injuries, roster turnover..ect.
forget 2 months..
lets talk more recent.
how did NIU do at HOME to a 4-5 bowling green team?
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#15
they beat them.....And if you knew anything about that game you would know that there were RIDICULOUS winds making it impossible to pass the ball....thus the low scoring game, and thus the small margin of victory...Now what do you got for me??? I know my shit, and just because someone picks their team to win a game or cover a spread does not mean that it is a homer play.....it can be the right play
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#16
smells like HOMER
homer, homer
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#17
glad to see you realize that you were wrong which is why that is the only response you could come up with.....way to be intelligent....You know it's respectful if a man can admit he's wrong...It's just pathetic when they keep acting like an ignorant moron and not admitting when they are wrong
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#18
seriously, you think the spread will be MORE ridiculous then what YOU know.
you know more then vegas handicappers? you still haven't made a case for your team of recent. That's all that matters, don't tell me what your team did in august. Coaches are brilliant they WATCH tape, and make adjustments. Why is NIU better then Ball st. today?
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#19
Vegas oddsmakers know that the public is gonna see a ranked Ball St. team at home against an unknown NIU team......And the public is gonna pound Ball St. Which is exactly why the line will be inflated
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#20
and your case for why NIU is decent? and capable of hanging?
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#21
I mean, if you combine the entire MAC's overall record are they even .500?
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#22
because they have not lost a game by more than 4 points this entire season.....and they have a very talented red shirt freshman at QB and their defense is stout
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#23
ok... sounds like a great game...I guess we'll see the line AND the result..
i'd say ball state AT home..... -7.5 to open
Ball State wins by 6
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smitch124
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-08
12566
#24
I always takes Easts over Centrals...
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rm18
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-05
22291
#25
Originally posted by Chi_archie
I mean, if you combine the entire MAC's overall record are they even .500?
of course not most non conference games are against the Big Ten
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#26
edit: no bet
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#27
Originally posted by rm18
of course not most non conference games are against the Big Ten
but most college experts would talk about the inferiority of the big ten... if you are a mid-major... you are gonna take major conference games away... its money for your program..
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#28
but even if you're talking about a MAC combine record of below
.500 that point isnt really valid in a discussion of NIU vs. Ball St. since both are in the MAC.
Also Chi archie, if you wanna talk about how these teams have played lately how did Ball St. look playing against a western KY team that lost last night at home to a HORRIBLE and previously winless north texas team
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#29
okay, I got lost in all the transitive properties there..
are you comparing Ball St. winning by 17 last month on the road? to winning by 3 at home...to beating a team by 3 AT HOME.... I mean I think we are in the nitpicking previous games the way HOMERS do....
the fact remains that come wednesday these two teams line up.... I see no reason for NIU to come away the winner in Ball St.'s home field... and so far neither have you.. other then they have a great first year starter..
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louisvillekid
SBR Hall of Famer
08-14-07
9263
#30
about the game ECU vs. UCF, i'm on the over, just my .02
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sportsguy04
SBR Posting Legend
10-21-08
11885
#31
Im all over ECU huge at -5.5.
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#32
Ball St. is overrated....Pure and Simple
Their opponents have a combined record of 23-47. NIU's opponents have a combined record of 31-43 (still not good, but better than Ball St. and Tennesse, Minnesota, and Western Michigan (the three teams that beat NIU) are better than any team Ball St. has played this season.
Ball St.'s major victory this season came at Indiana for god sakes, a team that lost at home to another MAC team yesterday.
And it is important that while Ball st beat Western Kentucky by 17 that is not good enough considering that NORTH ****ING TEXAS beat them by 11.
also while NIU beat Bowling Green at home by 3 what's wrong with that? Bowling Green went on the road to PITT and won. And I reiterate that points were hard to come by in that game because winds were very high and that made the passing game obsolete. When teams can't pass because of weather and their only option is to run the ball, and the defense knows they have to run the ball, no one is going to score much which is exactly what happend.
Now lets look at the teams that NIU and Ball St. have both played. On the road NIU beat eastern michigan 37-0...Ball St. beat eastern michigan at home 38-16. At home NIU beat Toledo 38-7 and on the road Ball St. beat Toledo 31-0 (same margin of victory there.
Does this help explain this to you a little bit as to why Ball St. is vastly overrated, and will have a hard time against NIU????
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#33
logic tells me East Carolina wins and covers, but I'm staying away from this after kary23 guaranteed that ECU rolls over Central Florida.
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
[/quote]
[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#34
again... alot of transitory stuff..... wins are wins and losses are losses...
moral victories get you no where.
NIU IS a running team.. Ball st. will challenge their froshie qb to beat them... and he will fail.
there are alot of reasons for a fan/homer to be excited about this game... but for someone looking to win at wagering... there isn't enough evidence...
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Dbldown11
SBR MVP
08-17-06
3605
#35
hahaha very smart move yisman.....I've seen him be wrong every time he does that....Now i'm worried about my play