Vegas Dave's Season Long NBA Learning Experience: Help Me Out!

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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #36
    Originally posted by flyingillini
    Davey,

    Who cares what anyone thinks of you. You writing about it gives them attention. Stick to your Philosophical picks and everything will be A-ok.
    NFL I love my philosophical picks, I don't know enough about NBA to have it translate over. I don't care all that much, I'm just saying I'll keep track of things on my own, and if I get to a decent level of capping NBA, I'll start posting those picks as well. Until then I'll just keep to myself about it. My NFL/NCAAF/NHL/MLB plays aren't going anywhere.
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    • pat venditto
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-07-07
      • 14347

      #37
      Then why would the percentage of action make you take 76ers.

      1. 76ers are an inconsistent team
      2. they are playing a better team
      3. the better team is killing everyone.
      4. you bet it please enlighten me on your ignorance.
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      • SexyMit
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-12-06
        • 6139

        #38
        Patty has issues.... he is a loser in my eyes. Worthless to this forum, not input what so ever. Changes his signature with his record like he changes his underwear. He gets on a losing streak and doesn't want to look bad so starts another contest for himself. He picks 10000 ML faves just like Richie and expect to win long term. Waste of sbrforum space if you ask me. I wouldn't even worry bout that LOSER dave you go on about your business and pretend he doesn't exist just like I do.
        If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

        I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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        • RogueScholar
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-05-07
          • 5082

          #39
          Hey, Dave's just putting his toe in the water with basketball, you've gotta let him experiment with different concepts as he figures out which direction to take with this sport. One of the reasons that I like handicapping basketball is because I find it to be a more visceral sensibility that leads me to winning as opposed to the more quantitative reasoning that lends itself to other sports.

          I've watched these teams for years, seen the players come in and mature, watching the coaching carousel take familiar faces to unfamiliar locations and seen the effects. When I handicap a basketball game I'll pull up a matchup report, but I just let my eyes drift over it, letting the information jog my memory of the performance of both teams and then letting my mind draw an informed conclusion on where the value is, if any.

          In some ways it's like baseball, an intricate dance of one-on-one matchups, but within the larger framework of a true team sport played at a frenetic pace. It also has elements of hockey in that some of the most important actions on the court are performed by the players anticipating the mind of the man with the puck/ball.

          What I'm trying to say is that basketball isn't the easiest nut to crack for someone who hasn't followed the sport at all. If you watch Dave's videos, you see that he integrates quantitative evaluations of the line relative to his knowledge of the teams' respective capabilities. With basketball all he has to work with now is his experience reading the lines. If we gave him a little support we might get videos from him wearing a Clippers jersey.

          We're nearing the end of the game and it's obvious that his pick isn't that far off base. Dave is one of the nicest people here and if you must criticize, at least frame it constructively.

          Originally posted by StraitShooter
          90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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          • pat venditto
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-07-07
            • 14347

            #40
            Not about the result of the game even if the 76ers cover it was a terrible bet which is not going to win enough to profit long term.
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            • VegasDave
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-03-07
              • 8056

              #41
              Originally posted by pat venditto
              Then why would the percentage of action make you take 76ers.

              1. 76ers are an inconsistent team
              2. they are playing a better team
              3. the better team is killing everyone.
              4. you bet it please enlighten me on your ignorance.
              Like I said, I'll explain in my video tomorrow.

              They just came one basket away from covering too, haha.
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              • VegasDave
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #42
                Originally posted by pat venditto
                Not about the result of the game even if the 76ers cover it was a terrible bet which is not going to win enough to profit long term.
                Like my 17 - 6 philosophy picks? Like my SF ML beating your NYJ moneyline (which of course you claim was a fluke).. I'm hitting over 63% on my philosophy picks ATS over the last 4 years Pat. You keep talking about long term. Have you hit 60% ATS on anything consistently over the last 4 years?
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                • pat venditto
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-07-07
                  • 14347

                  #43
                  Great for your fade the public picks. Your picks in totals are barely over .500 and you're a loser over this season so far.
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                  • SexyMit
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-12-06
                    • 6139

                    #44
                    60% at picking his nose and getting a winner out of it...
                    If it seems to good to be true it usually is!!

                    I have a natural instinct to exploit market ineffieciencies!!
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                    • VegasDave
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-03-07
                      • 8056

                      #45
                      Yeah, you are just trolling. Most people on here I can actually discuss disagreements with, but you really are just in it to annoy.

                      More power to you bud .

                      I'm done arguing for this evening. Have a good night.
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                      • Tsoprano
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 04-14-08
                        • 26374

                        #46
                        Originally posted by flyingillini
                        Davey,

                        Who cares what anyone thinks of you. You writing about it gives them attention. Stick to your Philosophical picks and everything will be A-ok.
                        Agreed 110%

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                        • dle
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-26-08
                          • 438

                          #47
                          Originally posted by pat venditto
                          Great for your fade the public picks. Your picks in totals are barely over .500 and you're a loser over this season so far.
                          At least he throws himself out there and is 100% honest. He has good write ups and puts almost as much effort into analyzing the hobby as you do losing your monthly mortgage.
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                          • pat venditto
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-07-07
                            • 14347

                            #48
                            He puts all this analysis in and he still loses.
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                            • flyingillini
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 41219

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pat venditto
                              He puts all this analysis in and he still loses.
                              He doesn't even bet himself. He does this and there is no money involved.
                              המוסד‎
                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                              • diogee
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-11-08
                                • 19477

                                #50
                                Good luck Dave...should be interesting to see how this turns out against games with >80%. I never looked at betting % much last year for the nba.
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                                • dle
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-26-08
                                  • 438

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by pat venditto
                                  He puts all this analysis in and he still loses.
                                  Everyone loses.

                                  Dave still has a winning percentage though.

                                  ...and he doesn't pad his stats, like you.
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