Will Obama voters go down in history as traitors and a disgrace to our nation?

[wtf]

If you studied history, you'd know that's unlikely.

It's much more probably that the Tea Party will join the ranks of the Know-nothings, Birchers, and McCarthyists in infamy. Of course, in the conservative alternate universe, those clowns are the heroes.

50 years from now, there will probably still be right wing cranks like you guys. They'll probably look at our universal healthcare, high speed rail, green energy, and electric cars, and might cite Obama as the turning point for when we've gone to "hell in a handbasket."

Of course, this will have no basis in reality, other than the world passing you by and progressing despite your best efforts.

time has proven MCCARTHY correct, hollywood is littered with left wing america hating commies

I know it is fashionable to desparage his ott tactics, but he was dead on

[dante1]

time has proven MCCARTHY correct, hollywood is littered with left wing america hating commies

I know it is fashionable to desparage his ott tactics, but he was dead on

I would like you to name 5 of these people, no make that 3. You can't, and you won't and if you do you will be wrong just like McCarthy. Commies, OMG!

Left wing does not mean commies but guys like you don't know that.

[stevenash]

From Politifact:


After they bought GST Steel, "Mitt Romney and his partners loaded it with debt, closed the Kansas City plant and walked away with a healthy profit, leaving hundreds of employees out of work with their pensions in jeopardy."

The real story of GST is that of a private-equity firm trying to spark some life into a uncompetitive, over-unionized industry. Bain's crime here—if that's what you call it—was giving a dying steel plant an unexpected eight-year lease on life.
When Bain bought the Kansas City mill in 1993, steel was a scene of carnage. Global players were pouring out cheap products, and America's high-cost steel plants couldn't compete. The industry had lost 200,000 jobs in preceding years. In 1992 alone, the six largest U.S. steel mills had lost a combined $3 billion. Armco, the company Bain would buy the plant from, would lose $641 million in 1993.
The Kansas City plant was itself dying. At its 1970 height it employed 4,500; by the late 1980s it was down to 1,000. A year before acquisition, Armco had laid off another 75. Its equipment was old; it faced fierce competition at home and abroad.
B.C. Huselton, a vice president of the business at the time, tells me that in 1990 the Armco CEO held a meeting. "He told us, 'Look, we either try to sell it, or we've got to shut it down.'" Armco had shut down another Kansas City facility, Union Wire Rope, only a few years before.
The Kansas City plant had two product lines—high-carbon rods and grinding media (used in mining)—that it felt could give it a competitive edge. But it needed investment, and Armco was tapped out. Bain nonetheless saw some potential and in 1993 joined other investors to acquire it for $80 million. Management renamed it GS Technologies (which would become part of a larger GS Industries) and poured an additional $100 million into modernization.
The strategy worked for a time. The market firmed up and GSI became a U.S. leader in steel rods. In 1994 it felt confident enough to distribute a dividend to investors. In both 1996 and 1997, GSI would realize $1 billion in revenue.

And then came the tsunami. The late 1990s saw a new outpouring of cheap steel from elsewhere around the globe. The Asian financial crisis walloped the mining industry, cutting demand for GST products. The price of GST's electricity and natural gas skyrocketed. The union dug in, refusing to make concessions. By April 1997, it was on strike, shooting bottle rockets at guards. Labor costs spiked, and by 1999 GSI was reporting $53 million in net losses.
In 2001 it would become one of 31 steel companies that went bankrupt from 1993 to 2003. (Mr. Romney left Bain in 1999.) The steel crash was the economic drama du jour, with Congress railing about "dumping."
At the time, GST's union blamed the company's bankruptcy on the political class, for failing to hamstring imports. "We can't compete against the steel imports that are being sold under cost," said the president of GST's union in 2001. "Our pleas fell on deaf ears in the political arena." The Bush administration would ultimately slap on giant tariffs.
The bankruptcies were led by unionized companies that, like airlines and textiles and Detroit, had negotiated pay and benefits that helped drive their employers under. GST's pension benefits would get passed on to the federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., which in 2002 received $7.5 billion in claims from the steel industry alone. The PBGC covered GST's basic pension payouts.
The Obama ad doesn't note that the broader company, GS Industries, employed 3,500 and that the Kansas City plant (with 750 workers) was the only one shuttered. Other plants were bought and operate today. Nor does it mention Bain's other steel investment in the early 1990s, in an Indiana start-up called Steel Dynamics. The firm touts innovative technology and a nonunion workforce. It today reports $6.3 billion in revenue—25 times what it claimed in its 1996 IPO—and employs 6,000.

[rkelly110]

Thanks for the info steve.

[Tully Mars 63]

One of the reasons Steel Dynamics worked was it received something 40 million in corporate welfare. Or as many on the right call it socialist, tax payer funded crap.

[SBR_John]

Republican treason.

LOL these clowns forget they were the majority and passed health care and stimulus and everything they wanted for two years. Absolutely zero mention of that little minor fact.

[ChalkyDog]

LOL these clowns forget they were the majority and passed health care and stimulus and everything they wanted for two years. Absolutely zero mention of that little minor fact.

Healthcare bill is a large accomplishment for their party. Just like the Patriot Act is for yours. Repubs had it for 6 years, what did they do? Dems had it for two years - big deal.

Love it, Repubs bitch about blowjobs and giving healthcare to the masses.

Dems bitch about unfounded wars and the passing of bills that take away more rights than any bill before or after.

The sad thing is, nobody cares and hold both as equally bad.

[Turd Ferguson]

LOL these clowns forget they were the majority and passed health care and stimulus and everything they wanted for two years. Absolutely zero mention of that little minor fact.

So you're saying that the health care bill and stimulus as passed were what they wanted? And they got everything they wanted for two years.

Pretty Bush league right wing talking points there, when trying to debunk a Hartmann vid you should at least bring intermediate level ones.

[Balco10]

98% of Americans know Obama is not presidential material. If you love our country then vote smart and pick the candidate who is going to bring back our country and not tear it apart.

[stevenash]

98% of Americans know Obama is not presidential material.

..........

[SBR_John]

So you're saying that the health care bill and stimulus as passed were what they wanted? And they got everything they wanted for two years.

Pretty Bush league right wing talking points there, when trying to debunk a Hartmann vid you should at least bring intermediate level ones.

There is no need for any intermediate rebuttal. He is singing the party line to blame everyone except the great Uniter. And then to insult everyones intelligence fail to even mention the great Uniter and his party held majorities in ALL 3 branches for two full years. It's sad and just plain retarded to blame others for his own failures.

Isn't it ironic that the great uniter has divided us about has far as one could conceive? Isn't it ironic that the man who said the buck stops with me and I will make no excuses only makes excuses? Maybe I'll write a song....Isn't it ironic.....

[rkelly110]

98% of Americans know Obama is not presidential material. If you love our country then vote smart and pick the candidate who is going to bring back our country and not tear it apart.

Why 'cause his hair is kinky and not slicked back? If you love your country, you'd vote out every Repuke who refused
to work with the other party. Almost 4 years of NO? Acting like little fcking kids? WTF does Romney got?
Not a god damn thing! His VP would make a better candidate than him. He introduced him right the 1st time.

[Tully Mars 63]

There is no need for any intermediate rebuttal. He is singing the party line to blame everyone except the great Uniter. And then to insult everyones intelligence fail to even mention the great Uniter and his party held majorities in ALL 3 branches for two full years. It's sad and just plain retarded to blame others for his own failures.

Isn't it ironic that the great uniter has divided us about has far as one could conceive? Isn't it ironic that the man who said the buck stops with me and I will make no excuses only makes excuses? Maybe I'll write a song....Isn't it ironic.....

Man I kind of remember another guy claiming to be a uniter not a divider. Gez, what was his name? Oh yeah Bush Jr. He did about as well as Obama has and I figure Romney has about the same chance as both of his predecessors should he win.

Country's been about 50/50% for going on a couple decades other then some odd brief spurts by one side or the other.

[ByeShea]

I will look at Obama voters as part of the "American Idol" era. If they sound good, and look good, they have to be good, no matter what their qualifications are.

(And especially if that good looking and sounding man changes "Food Stamps" from actual stamps and a mild sense of shame to a snazzy "Electronic Benefits Card" that instead provides a sense of privilege for holders who get free food and smokes on the tax payer's dime.)

[stevenash]

Country's been about 50/50% for going on a couple decades

50 percent pay into the system, 50 percent receive the benefits.

[McBa1n]

LOL these clowns forget they were the majority and passed health care and stimulus and everything they wanted for two years. Absolutely zero mention of that little minor fact.

Dear John. I mean Sir. You're not very bright about current events. ERM, even events that happened YEARS ago.
Healthcare passed due to concessions to (R) people - i.e. to 'privatize' your life. Just think about that for 1 second. If you get cancer of the brain, unless you're a millionaire already - you will die fast. Profits>your life. That's private companies mentality, sir.

A 'considered' Dem in Joe Lieberman, from CT, won't let ANY of the insurance companies lose profits, as Hartford, CT, is the CRITICAL mass of insurers of the NE. He wants a single payer system like you want Tampa Bay to win the Super Bowl +100000000000000 with your 1 buck bet.

I know you're smart, John. You are getting paid off of us douches, but f'n hell - you're likely not a millionaire. Why you'd mirror UNEDUCATED principles makes me sick to my stomach. SBR needs more 'kind of educated' types. If you understand the 'philibuster' you'd understand that the (D) party didn't have free reign. Under current (R) passed rules, you don't have to do f all to stop ANY bill. In fact, over those 3 prior years under Obama, the (R) party stopped more bills than in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD (google it, you'll see). The ONLY reason why the shitty Obama-care passed was due to (R) and (D) parties sucking off insurance companies that don't give a rat-**** if you have cancer of the arse - and die due to it.

Sorry, John. You're the clown, sir. It wasn't a (D) majority that passed the BULLSHIT Obama care. It was a slight majority of AMERICAN ELECTED CONGRESS PEOPLE. Set your vitriol correctly - at Washington. The (R) party SHUT DOWN everything, but that one bill. OMFG - it's DEMS!!! No, it was ALL of congress. Obama care sucks off EVERY major city's insurance company's bottom lines.

Don't blame Obama - blame EVERY F'n MAJOR party person. ALL of them. Learn the system. Learn how they both f us over.

And also, with your 'Absolutely zero mention of that little minor fact" statement - I ask you to google the term 'philibuster.'

I also ask you to learn the history of said term - and also ask you to then prepare a statement as to why your argument is f'd. If the (D) proper had their way, it'd be a single payer system. It'd be easy to go get your anus cancer sorted, MAYBE. In today's world - pray it does NOT happen to you. Under Ryan/Romney's system - it won't matter. Your BEST bet is to have a cough that can be fixed. The rest? Unless you're a millionaire, you die with 0 chance of survival - yet the (R) party talked about 'death panels' - LMAO. The fox watching/ideological radio peeps are the real stupid-heads. It's cool - watch your mum or grand mum die, because of the Ryan/Romney 'voucher' (8k/year in ANY system is jackall to support human life)... Christ, we're sooooo taxed - we need the money to invade sovereign nations that have f-all to do with anything.

Sorry, the MODERN (R) ideology is not only HYPOCRITICAL to 'jesus'(I mean it's 'base, it's f'n stupid to national strength. The (D) Party sucks incredibly bad, also, but NEVER that bad - not even close... They do NOT preach the 'church of state' ala Stalin, like the (R) Party does. It's not teachers/janitors in a OMG UNION that is killing us - it's the defense budget. Who is going to invade us? F-off-istan? LOL k. The US's capitalism is it's best asset and also worst enemy. It's why no reasonable nation wars now directly. It's also why, outside of China, the Dollar is the world standard - DERP.

..But to get that, you need to study history. That might make your brain hurt. It's easier to follow the communist/oligarchs providing (R)-wing news (google Pravda, please). That way you DON'T have to think. That makes you as American as me, sadly. Someone that parses information and reads history, rather than being TOLD what to think. Sad when someone that follows a state-PWNED ideology=someone that follows the constitution that provides BOTH of us the freedom to say what we believe. I just think this nation is being overcome by communist-like ideology, but then again, most Americans have 0 idea, really, of what that means. Also, the 2nd Amendment has 0 to do with it. This isn't Deadwood, SD - this is the US. I live free and will die because of it - not because someone told me to say that.

C'mon, man - read up. Part of being human is to be wrong - human=mistake filled knucklehead. I'm always wrong - but on this topic? No way. I'm still registered with the (R) Party. Although, I regret it every f'n day. The neocon has ruined the party badly(sorry, **** religion of state or of jesus). What happened to personal freedom, the environment and gettin paid (god, so f'n Nixonian)?

We're all f'd with the neocon.

[DwightShrute]

Will Obama voters go down in history as traitors and a disgrace to our nation?

hate to be mean but hell ya

[15805]

This election will be like no other in our history. It will pit those who work for a living vs. those who vote for a living!
Obama's constituency of public sector unions thugs, welfare receipients, doctrinaire leftists/ivory tower academics and the ever important "phantom voter" who "rises from the grave" to vote and whose ballots "appear" in the car trunks and backseats of election polling place Democrat/activists will be hard to beat!

[SBR_John]

McBain
Don't get me wrong, Obama has done some good. He did a great job with the banking meltdown, did a great job managing a very tricky war and covert anti terrorists ops and more. I just get a little ill seeing him not take ANY blame for his own failed economic policies. Be a man and tell us how you are going to get us out of this economic mess. I haven't heard one single thing he plans to do to improve the economy if given a second term...have you?

[SBR_John]

McBain
Don't get me wrong, Obama has done some good. He did a great job with the banking meltdown, did a great job managing a very tricky war and covert anti terrorists ops and more. I just get a little ill seeing him not take ANY blame for his own failed economic policies. Be a man and tell us how you are going to get us out of this economic mess. I haven't heard one single thing he plans to do to improve the economy if given a second term...have you?

"I see dead crickets"

[CanuckG]

Nothing changes regardless of who is President.

[muldoon]

Nothing changes regardless of who is President.

You really think McCain would have handled Iraq, Afghanistan and the Arab Spring the same way with the same results?

You think McCain would have pushed to repeal DADT? Or issue the executive order to stop deporting young illegal immigrants? How about the implementation of Obamacare?

Whether you agree or disagree with the above, you have to at least admit that these things affect real people in a profound way. These are not things that would have just happened regardless of who was POTUS at the time.

[Turd Ferguson]

McBain
Don't get me wrong, Obama has done some good. He did a great job with the banking meltdown, did a great job managing a very tricky war and covert anti terrorists ops and more. I just get a little ill seeing him not take ANY blame for his own failed economic policies. Be a man and tell us how you are going to get us out of this economic mess. I haven't heard one single thing he plans to do to improve the economy if given a second term...have you?

I'm sure he would've loved to have signed any of these bills that were blocked by Senate Republicans, and they will no doubt do more of the same for his second term as well...

H.R. 466 – Wounded Veteran Job Security Act – This bill would actually provide job security for veterans who are receiving medical treatment for injuries suffered while fighting in defense of their country. It would prohibit employers from terminating employees who miss work while receiving treatment for a service-related disability. Guess that answers that question; they don’t care about the troops, either. This isn't the only bill they have blocked having to do with the troops, either.

H.R. 577 – Vision Care for Kids Act – Of course, this would provide eyesight screening for children who do not have insurance that covers this, and help provide them with glasses. Seriously, this is, at most, about $250-300 per year , at most, for the children with bad eyesight; how cheap are Republicans? And why do they pretend to care so passionately about the fetus, but have no regard for them once they're born?

H.R. 1622 – Research and Development Programs for Natural Gas Vehicles – This is one that has to make you shake your head, you know? This bill would make yet another alternative fuel more viable, and save us some money, so Republicans have to be against it. It won’t cost a lot of money; about $25 million a year over 6 years. There’s another quarter a year to your family of four, so that we can use our domestic supply of natural gas to wean ourselves from that “foreign oil” Republicans have been whining about for years. Of course, we all know their whines have been a joke, haven’t we?

H.R. 1709 – STEM Education Coordination Act – The acronym STEM refers to Science-Technology-Engineering-Math, and this bill would create a committee under the National Sciences and Technology Council, to create and coordinate education programs and activities designed to enhance those areas of study, and make the United States competitive again. Imagine a country in which we were training our own scientists and engineers, instead of training scientists and engineers for other countries, so that they can kick our asses on the world economic stage? Dare we dream? This type of program is small in scope, but it’s a very good investment, because we need people who are versed in science and math, in order to compete in the world economy.

H.R. 1736 – The International Science and Technology Cooperation Act, which would establish a committee under the NSTC that would coordinate with international science and technology efforts, with a goal of strengthening “US science and technology enterprise, improve economic and national security, and support US foreign policy goals.” If you need any more proof that Republicans hate science and fear the future, there you go.

H.R. 1803 -- Veterans Business Center Act – Here’s another head scratcher, to be sure. What would you say to a bill that helps veterans start their own business? It’s about perfect, right? If you don’t think so, I have two words for you; GI Bill. This bill would set up a Veterans Business Center program within the Small Business Administration, which would specialize in such programs as grants for service-disabled veterans, help them develop business plans and secure business opportunities. In other words, folks, it would create jobs and offer opportunities those who have fought in defense of our country. And the Republicans are working against it.

H.R. 1807 – Educating Entrepreneurs through Today’s Technology Act – This bill would direct the Small Business Administration to contract with tech vendors to provide assistance to small businesses to get them up to speed with regard to technology. Essentially, it would help small businesses become stronger by providing free or inexpensive technical assistance to help them compete in the current economy. Republicans working against small businesses; imagine that…

H.R. 1834 – Native American Business Development Enhancement Act, which would create an Office of Native American Affairs within the SBA, which would assist Native Americans in starting small businesses. As a point of reference, unemployment on some Indian reservations is currently running twice the rate as elsewhere.

H.R. 1839 – To amend the Small Business Act to improve SCORE, which is the Service Corps of Retired Executives, which provides expertise to small businesses, to make them less likely to fail, and more likely to grow and create jobs.

H.R. 1842 – Expanding Entrepreneurship Act is also being held hostage by Senate Republicans. This bill would create and expand small business entrepreneurial development programs, with the specific goal of using them as a catalyst for job creation.

H.R. 1845 -- Small Business Development Centers Modernization Act, which would give a boost to SBDCs, providing business assistance that is often relied upon by small business owners to expand revenues and create jobs.

H.R. 1824 -- Best Buddies Empowerment for People with Intellectual Disabilities Act – I’m including this one because it’s flat out mean. This bill would increase grant funding for a well-established non-profit called Best Buddies International, an organization with chapters in high schools and college campuses all over the country, that pairs volunteers with intellectually disabled individuals, to increase their ability to function independently. The more intellectually disabled individuals can take care of themselves, and pay their own way in life, the better for all of us, in a variety of ways. In other words, it’s an investment; in the long run, creating more taxpayers means the rest of us pay less. Yet, Republicans are against this.

H.R. 2187 – 21st Century Green High-Performing Public School Facilities Act – The next time a Republican or Independent voter tells you the GOP got a bad rap for their non-response to Katrina, show them their blockage of this bill. The purpose of this bill is twofold; it would create a program of grants to renovate schools to make them more energy efficient, and to save taxpayers money. The jobs created would help to alleviate economic problems in a number of hard-hit geographical areas. Which brings up the second part of this bill, which would provide a little extra help in rebuilding and modernizing schools in the Gulf Coast region, which is still reeling from the effects of Katrina. (The Democratic House passage of this bill pre-dates the BP oil spill.) Such a bill would create thousands of jobs and make substantial infrastructure improvements to educational institutions all over the country, and will result in significant cost savings over the long haul. But Republicans won’t let it happen.

H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act – This bill essentially combines a number of other bills that Republicans had blocked in the Senate previously, and adds a few elements. The bill would again establish a Veterans Business Center Program; it would encourage and enhance Native American entrepreneurship; it would strengthen the Women's Business Center Program (the bill’s description uses the term “broadening,” which seems unfortunate); it would improve the SCORE programs; it would recommend major enhancements to the SBA’s entrepreneurial development programs; it would modernize and expand the Small Business Development Center Program; it would improve technology to create better distance learning and other educational programs for budding entrepreneurs; it would create a Microenterprise Training Center Program, to encourage and train low-income and unemployed folks to enter the market with a small business; it would establish a Military Entrepreneurs Program; and it would establish a Rural Entrepreneurship Advisory Council. In other words, this bill would encourage just about anyone with an idea to start a small business and hire people, and give them the knowledge they need to do so successfully.

H.R. 2554 – National Association of Registered Agents and Brokers Reform Act – Remember that economic meltdown we had a few years back? I know you do. Well, apparently, Republicans would like you to forget about it. This bill would reinstate a key component of Glass-Steagall that was removed when Republicans rammed through Gramm-Leach-Bliley and made it possible for pretty much anyone in the world to call himself a “broker,” and sell any “financial instrument” he or she wanted to sell, without oversight. This bill would reestablish the National Association of Registered Agents and Brokers (NARAB) as a nonprofit corporation to oversee licensing and insurance producer qualification requirements and conditions, although states would retain authority with regard to licensing, supervision, disciplining, and setting of fees, as well as insurance-related consumer protection and unfair trade practices. It also requires anyone applying for a license to undergo a thorough criminal background check, and all members will be required to continue their education as they work. It restores sanity to the insurance and financial services industry, and Republicans are blocking it.

H.R. 2664 – Promoting Transparency in Financial Reporting Act – Again, Republicans would like us to forget the financial meltdown, which was largely the result of massive investment in a number of “financial instruments” that even experts had a difficult time understanding. This bill would work to create standards whereby disclosures for bonds and other instruments have to at least make sense and are written in “plain English.” The bill also includes a reassessment of outdated or arcane accounting standards in favor of principles-based accounting standards (you know, in which $2 + $2 = $4, instead of $6, including sleight of hand) in which everyone up and down the line deals with real, not hypothetical money, and encouraging the use of interactive data. The reason Republicans are against this is because they don’t believe in real investment with real money. Think about it; Every period in which they’ve bragged about the “booming” economy has featured phony money – money that doesn’t actually exist, but which they can put onto paper, as if it was actually real.

I'll throw this one in just for chuckles.

H.R. 1933 – A Child Is Missing Alert and Recovery Center Act – This bill would provide coordination and guidance for law enforcement agencies, and pool their resources in order to find missing children more quickly. Once again; if this was for missing fetuses, one would have to think Republicans would be all over it. But it’s children, and they clearly do not care about them.

[ByeShea]

More gov't, more money eh Turd?

Right now every single regulatory agency has only one mission - collect revenue. For these bureaucratic fiefdoms to actually fulfill their stated purposes has become secondary. It's killing this country's business base.

Obama is toast, btw. These shock polls are starting to trickle in (some are saying that the lack of employment opportunities for youth is driving a Romney surge), but just follow the money and the crowds.

Overflow crowds at Romney/Ryan events, while Obama events (and forget Biden - LOL) and underattended.

Romney raking it in and hasn't even started to spend yet, while Obama blew his wad trying to tear Romney down.

[CanuckG]

You really think McCain would have handled Iraq, Afghanistan and the Arab Spring the same way with the same results?

You think McCain would have pushed to repeal DADT? Or issue the executive order to stop deporting young illegal immigrants? How about the implementation of Obamacare?

Whether you agree or disagree with the above, you have to at least admit that these things affect real people in a profound way. These are not things that would have just happened regardless of who was POTUS at the time.

Do you honestly notice a difference in your day to day life? You still wake up and go to the same job, get paid, spend it on whatever you like, go to sleep, get up go to work and repeat until you decide when you want to retire.

[muldoon]

Do you honestly notice a difference in your day to day life? You still wake up and go to the same job, get paid, spend it on whatever you like, go to sleep, get up go to work and repeat until you decide when you want to retire.

Just because "you" don't notice it, doesn't mean others don't.

My sister has a special needs (cystic fibrosis) child and soon she'll be able to venture out from her job and try to start her own business. This is a direct result of Obamacare.

I have family serving in the military. So the fact that they won't be going to Iraq, affects them directly (and us in turn)

Those are 2 examples that affect my family directly.

You seem (as a canuck no less) to be asking for some sort of "everyone gets a ticket to the moon" type change in your life from the POTUS.

I listed changes that affect people directly - and how I felt those changes wouldn't have occured had someone else been elected.

Some of the changes affect my family directly. Because they don't affect you (as best you can tell), you seem to just use the same cop-out "well they're all the same"

[SBR_John]

I was kind of asking what he WILL DO, not what he will not do because he lacks the votes.

It's kind of strange. Why elect a president that will get nothing done or even try to compromise?? Basically democrats are saying re elect Obama, we have no plan because we don't have the votes. We will not negotiate a plan so we will do nothing except bicker and blame bush strike that(we already blamed him for 4 years), blame congress and limp out of office with 8 years of zippo to show except runaway deficits and a crumbling economy. I really do see dead crickets now...

[CanuckG]

John is drinking the Republican kool-aid. John you're rich and it doesn't matter if Joe Blow was elected you're still getting paid.

[CanuckG]

Just because "you" don't notice it, doesn't mean others don't.

My sister has a special needs (cystic fibrosis) child and soon she'll be able to venture out from her job and try to start her own business. This is a direct result of Obamacare.

I have family serving in the military. So the fact that they won't be going to Iraq, affects them directly (and us in turn)

Those are 2 examples that affect my family directly.

You seem (as a canuck no less) to be asking for some sort of "everyone gets a ticket to the moon" type change in your life from the POTUS.

I listed changes that affect people directly - and how I felt those changes wouldn't have occured had someone else been elected.

Some of the changes affect my family directly. Because they don't affect you (as best you can tell), you seem to just use the same cop-out "well they're all the same"

You're one family lets talk about the majority of Americans.

[SBR_John]

John is drinking the Republican kool-aid. John you're rich and it doesn't matter if Joe Blow was elected you're still getting paid.

It's weird. I ask what will Obama do if re elected and I get these War and Peace posts on what he will not do because he lacks the votes!! It's not a difficult question is it??? Seriously? Anyone? Maybe the dead crickets will tell me what Obama WILL DO if re elected?

[CanuckG]

It's weird. I ask what will Obama do if re elected and I get these War and Peace posts on what he will not do because he lacks the votes!! It's not a difficult question is it??? Seriously? Anyone? Maybe the dead crickets will tell me what Obama WILL DO if re elected?

Give Glenn Beck and company higher audience ratings.

[BuddyBear]

Actually, Obama is ranked really high right now by presidential scholars and historians. Obama has a chance to go down as one of the greatest presidents of all time. Probably top 10 of all time.


Bush, on the other hand, seems to be regarded by presidential scholars and historians as one of the weaker presidents and certainly the worst in almost 80 years.

[BettingWizard]

It's hilarious how Neotards constantly act like Bush doesn't exist.

Newsflash: you are the ones ruining this country

[Shafted69]

GOPukies who voted for that clueless inbred GW Bush are & forever will be history's biggest traitors

to this country & are a disgrace to the human race.

I mean look at the built in deficit from the unpaid for Booosh tax cuts, 2 wars & medicare part D.

It makes up most of the annual spending budget!

[BuddyBear]

It's astonishing the level of ignorance among Republican and conservative voters. I am starting to think it is just more than misinformation. The Tea Party and their adherents represent everything that is wrong with America. They represent total vile and hate and stupidity for the policies they advocate.

The "I want my country back" voters should just seriously stop and get a life.