Chicago Bulls season wins over 40.5

[daggerkobe]

Oh, I forgot..... Jay Williams' induction in the Hall of Fame coming up soon.

The funny part is, Smush Parker had a far better 1-2 year career than Jay Williams, yet he's a journeyman at best.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Two words you obviously don't understand: MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT. He was lucky to not be paralyzed let alone attempt to play ball again.

[Panic]

So you answer "Was Bynum a starter as a rookie?" with "He started 53 games that year." And I'm the retard?

I can't believe you're dumb enough to compare JW to AB. Jay was HANDED the reigns to the franchise as a rookie. Phil didn't even want to play Bynum. The only reason he became a starter in his 2nd season was because his 1st & 2nd string centers were both out INJURED!!!!!! Otherwise he would've remained on the bench!

And you think Phil's going to run the offense through his 3rd string center that he didn't even want to play?????? What a joke you are!

And who says Bynum is a star????? 13ppg/10reb for 25 starts makes him an all-star I guess...

The fact of the matter is, Jay was the 2nd overall pick and was given EVERY chance to succeed but failed miserably.

Just like how you fail in politics AND sports.

What a fvcking tool. Cant even admit when you lose. Have a nice night.

[daggerkobe]

What is your point?

You think CHARACTER and INTEGRITY are not important when drafting players???

You do know Jay VIOLATED his contract by riding that motorcycle right? You do know the Bulls could have VOIDED his contract because of this right????

To say Jay wasn't a bust because of something stupid he did is like saying Len Bias wasn't a bust because he overdosed on CRACK..... or Lawrence Phillips wasn't a bust because of his DOMESTIC ABUSE OF WOMEN. The fact of the matter is the Bulls, Celtics and Rams wasted HIGH DRAFT PICKS and MILLIONS of dollars on guys with character flaws. They don't get a do-over pick or get all their money back. That alone makes them BUSTS.

[daggerkobe]

panic running from another argument that he can't win. What's new.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Riding a motorcycle is a character flaw. Where do you come up with this stuff?

[daggerkobe]

No but violating his CONTRACT, which clearly says NO MOTORCYCLES is.

[durito]

no value

[Panic]

panic running from another argument that he can't win. What's new.

fagger, you have never beat me in an argument and never will. I just choose to leave because you will continue arguing regardless how bad you look. Here you go, fagger. Tony Parker, handed the reins as a rookie to run the San Antonio Spurs. He started 72 of 77 games. Played 30 minutes/gm. Averaged 9 pts and 4 assists. Is he a bust? Game set match. You lose. Better luck next time.

[daggerkobe]

Tony Parker given the reigns.

I guess Tim Duncan and David Robinson were just role players to the greatness of Frenchy Parker. You're such a nitwit.

You don't hand over reigns to those drafted as the 28th pick. Like you do with "franchise players" drafted 2nd overall.

Keep drawing straws, you're so good at it.

[Panic]

Tony Parker given the reigns.

I guess Tim Duncan and David Robinson were just role players to the greatness of Frenchy Parker. You're such a nitwit.

You don't hand over reigns to those drafted as the 28th pick. Like you do with "franchise players" drafted 2nd overall.

Keep drawing straws, you're so good at it.

Now you're making stipulations on draft place. Nice. Keep going, fagger. You're on a roll.

[daggerkobe]

So you have the same expections for players drafted 2nd overall and 28th overall?

Nah... you couldn't possibly be this stupid.....

[Panic]

So you have the same expections for players drafted 2nd overall and 28th overall?

Nah... you couldn't possibly be this stupid.....

So are you saying a player drafted 2 and averages 30 is a bigger stud than a guy that was picked 28 and averages 30?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Okay. Name 5 PG's drafted in the top 5 in the last 20 years that had better numbers than Jay Williams in their rookie year.

[daggerkobe]

I'm saying a guy drafted 2nd overall has HIGHER EXPECTATIONS than a guy drafted 28th overall. How about you?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Quit evading. Name 5 PG's drafted in the top 5 in the last 20 years with better numbers in their rookie season than Jay Williams. It should be easy to do, shouldn't it? I mean he was a huge bust, wasn't he?

[Panic]

I'm saying a guy drafted 2nd overall has HIGHER EXPECTATIONS than a guy drafted 28th overall. How about you?

Of course. But your argument was that at 26 minutes gm/9 pts/ 4 assist in his rookie year...that he was a bust. Which is asinine. I dont care if you were drafted 1st or 60th...your rookie year is your rookie year. Not many come out of college starting all 82 games and playing 30 minutes and being a big impact in their rookie year.

[daggerkobe]

Okay. Name 5 PG's drafted in the top 5 in the last 20 years that had better numbers than Jay Williams in their rookie year.

Why even bother? I'm sure you've checked already and formed the question exactly so you'd be "right."


How about this... name a top 5 PG draftee that started his rookie season as the starter then was benched the rest of the season due to poor performance.

Then in the offseason violated his contract by blatantly riding a motorcycle and injuring himself.

[daggerkobe]

Of course. But your argument was that at 26 minutes gm/9 pts/ 4 assist in his rookie year...that he was a bust. Which is asinine. I dont care if you were drafted 1st or 60th...your rookie year is your rookie year. Not many come out of college starting all 82 games and playing 30 minutes and being a big impact in their rookie year.

Are you stupid?

Jay was the starter and played 30min a game but because he SUCKED so bad, he was BENCHED and relegated as the backup and played sparingly.

Do you get it now?????

[Panic]

Are you stupid?

Jay was the starter and played 30min a game but because he SUCKED so bad, he was BENCHED and relegated as the backup and played sparingly.

Do you get it now?????

fagger, I dont care how many times you want to tell yourself that and pretend you're right, but to the rest of us...we see it for what it is...and that is...you are a knee jerk reaction guy who was ready to give up on a guy after just his rookie season. That simple. Have a goodnight. Gonna go watch the games and post in game threads.

[MonkeyF0cker]

It wasn't because he sucked, genius. It was because Jamal Crawford was playing so well. You just don't get it.

[MonkeyF0cker]

They were also hoping to trade Crawford in the offseason for some talent to surround Williams but what would you know about trying to get value for something...

[daggerkobe]

Now you're just talking out of your ass.

Prior to Crawford's first start of the season, he had averaged a whopping 6.6ppg. Damn, give the guy a statue.

What exactly could they get for a player that avg 10ppg on 41% FG? I don't know maybe Iverson?

[daggerkobe]

fagger, I dont care how many times you want to tell yourself that and pretend you're right, but to the rest of us...we see it for what it is...and that is...you are a knee jerk reaction guy who was ready to give up on a guy after just his rookie season. That simple. Have a goodnight. Gonna go watch the games and post in game threads.

I didn't give up on him... the Bulls did.

[MonkeyF0cker]

God. You're an idiot. Yeah. AI, retard.

[daggerkobe]

I sometimes use sarcasm whenever I have an overwhelming urge to call someone a clueless nitwit.

What "talent" could they have possibly gotten to "surround Jay with" in exchange for a player that averaged a pitiful 10ppg on 41% FG and coming off ACL reconstructive surgery?

Looking forward to you answer with great anticipation.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Holy crap. You are retarded. Yeah. Only all-stars get traded, right? Get a flippin clue.

http://www.insidehoops.com/crawford-trade-080504.shtml

[daggerkobe]

I ask for what a 10ppg (41% FG) scorer with a bum knee could bring THAT off-season and he posts a deal that happens 2 years later involving 6 stiffs that improved neither team.

Kinda expected it but still funny.

[Chi_archie]

y'all need to just let it go.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I ask for what a 10ppg (41% FG) scorer with a bum knee could bring THAT off-season and he posts a deal that happens 2 years later involving 6 stiffs that improved neither team.

Kinda expected it but still funny.

First off, it was ONE year later not two. I know you're dense but that is kindergarten mathematics. Secondly, it proves that he was trade bait. Thirdly, they needed to keep Crawford an extra year due to Williams' injury. Fourthly, you're an idiot and have absolutely no clue as to how NBA teams manage their personnel. Fifthly, I'm done with this conversation. Hopefully, you could follow 1-2-3-4-5 (Hint: 1 comes before 2.)

[daggerkobe]

Yeah and the funny part is he raised his scoring avg to 17.3 but the Bulls still couldn't get anything of value for him.

But you think they would've got something of value when he avg 10ppg with a bum knee.

Just too funny.

[5 star bomb]

wow lot of morons in this thread... D Rose is going to be a stud... thats the bottom line. have you not seen this kid play?

[Bill Dozer]

Well...they got their big man. I still like them to finish above 500. Let's go Chicago

[Chi_archie]

Deng has been playing better, and Thomas has had more consistent spurts.... but I think Del Negro is lost

still a chance to get 41, we'll see how they react to their new parts

[Bill Dozer]

They need the last 5 home games. A loss today will put this play out of its misery. If they can beat NJ and NY, Phili and the Bobcats could be nice dogs.