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  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #1
    A teaser worth playing Sunday
    No write up, no hoopla. Play it or don't, the choice is yours.

    6pt teaser
    Raiders +13.5
    Redskins -1.5


    Good luck this weekend gents.
  • donjuan
    SBR MVP
    • 08-29-07
    • 3993

    #2
    Raiders +13.5
    The worst teaser leg possible.
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    • dwaechte
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-27-07
      • 5481

      #3
      Originally posted by donjuan
      The worst teaser leg possible.
      A bit of an exaggeration, but yes, Balt -1.5 would be much better.
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      • SBR Lou
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-02-07
        • 37863

        #4
        Originally posted by donjuan
        The worst teaser leg possible.
        I don't know that they'll be 13 pts the entire game. Better to tease the dog here because they can easily win by a field goal. Lot of cushion either way.
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          Most people know what "wise-guy" teasers are. This is on the other end of the spectrum.

          No disrespect here, but if you play opposite sides in the game, some bookmakers call that a "dumb-guy" teaser, since it is an anti-correlated parlay. You'd need to get about +160 on a 2-team teaser to break even on this.
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          • Justin7
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-31-06
            • 8577

            #6
            Ok, I'm the dumb-guy. I can't read, and convinced myself that those were teams in the same game. So disregard what I said.

            An example of a "dumb-guy" teaser would be Was-1x and Det +13x (since they are in the same game).
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            • donjuan
              SBR MVP
              • 08-29-07
              • 3993

              #7
              A bit of an exaggeration
              It's not an exaggeration. I'd love to hear of a worse subset for teasers than 7.5 pt underdogs. Only 10.5 comes even close.
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              • donjuan
                SBR MVP
                • 08-29-07
                • 3993

                #8
                I don't know that they'll be 13 pts the entire game. Better to tease the dog here because they can easily win by a field goal. Lot of cushion either way.
                Then you should probably consider betting a large portion of your net worth on the under.
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                • SBR Lou
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-02-07
                  • 37863

                  #9
                  Originally posted by donjuan
                  It's not an exaggeration. I'd love to hear of a worse subset for teasers than 7.5 pt underdogs. Only 10.5 comes even close.
                  I just don't think the Ravens winning straight up is safe enough for this teaser, regardless of the YTD of these "wise guy" teasers off the -7.5 lines as this is. And instead of playing it straight up, I think it's the next best tease on the board, as this week seems kind of dried up.

                  I did consider Ravens -1.5, but I think that play would be rolling the dice more regardless of the conventional wisdom of teasing -7.5 down..
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                  • dwaechte
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-27-07
                    • 5481

                    #10
                    Originally posted by donjuan
                    It's not an exaggeration. I'd love to hear of a worse subset for teasers than 7.5 pt underdogs. Only 10.5 comes even close.
                    For NFL games I guess. College provides lots of worse opportunities.

                    But, I was mostly referring to the fact that the total for this game is sitting around 35, making any underdog teaser on this game far from the worst possible.
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                    • donjuan
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-29-07
                      • 3993

                      #11
                      College provides lots of worse opportunities.
                      While the low total is good, it's still comes nowhere near making up for teasing a 7.5 pt dog. And as for college, do you have any that are worse than 7.5 pt dogs besides 13.5 pt favs, 16.5 pt favs and 10.5 pt dogs?
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82874

                        #12
                        Lions may win outright. Redskins are a winless team's best gift. Ask the Rams.
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                        • donjuan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-29-07
                          • 3993

                          #13
                          I just don't think the Ravens winning straight up is safe enough for this teaser, regardless of the YTD of these "wise guy" teasers off the -7.5 lines as this is. And instead of playing it straight up, I think it's the next best tease on the board, as this week seems kind of dried up.

                          I did consider Ravens -1.5, but I think that play would be rolling the dice more regardless of the conventional wisdom of teasing -7.5 down..
                          It's not about conventional wisdom. It's about basic math. You are teasing across a bunch of numbers that are basically worthless. If your logic about unders and the "lack of safety" holds true, then you should be massively on the under and on the Raiders +7.5. Would you take a 12 pt dog and buy a half pt for 10 cents?
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                          • donjuan
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-29-07
                            • 3993

                            #14
                            Lions may win outright. Redskins are a winless team's best gift. Ask the Rams.
                            Every team on the board "may win outright". Do you realize what a meaningless and idiotic phrase that is?
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                            • rm18
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-20-05
                              • 22291

                              #15
                              if you tease Oakland over the 14 it would actually be a good play
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82874

                                #16
                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                Every team on the board "may win outright". Do you realize what a meaningless and idiotic phrase that is?
                                I will never bet money against a winless home dog. You go waste your money on the lowly Redskins genius.
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                                • dwaechte
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-27-07
                                  • 5481

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by donjuan
                                  While the low total is good, it's still comes nowhere near making up for teasing a 7.5 pt dog. And as for college, do you have any that are worse than 7.5 pt dogs besides 13.5 pt favs, 16.5 pt favs and 10.5 pt dogs?
                                  I don't have any data in front of me, but I was assuming almost any 35+ favs would be worse. Judging by your response I'm guessing I was wrong on that.
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    Even the washington leg is probably not +EV (at -110 on 2 teamer).
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                                    • SBR Lou
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-02-07
                                      • 37863

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by durito
                                      Even the washington leg is probably not +EV (at -110 on 2 teamer).
                                      Thanks for your insight, and best of luck tomorrow.
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                                      • donjuan
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-29-07
                                        • 3993

                                        #20
                                        I will never bet money against a winless home dog. You go waste your money on the lowly Redskins genius.
                                        I have bets on the Skins, although not at -7.5. Anyway, that has little to do with the inane comment you made.
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                                        • rm18
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-20-05
                                          • 22291

                                          #21
                                          Change to a 7 point tease and go New England and Oakland. I like teasing to 14.5, there was actually one game last year Oakland/Tennessee that i double teased to -2.5 and +14.5
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                                          • donjuan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-29-07
                                            • 3993

                                            #22
                                            Even the washington leg is probably not +EV (at -110 on 2 teamer).
                                            Meh. I disagree with this, mostly because even though road faves are historically a poor subset, it's my belief that the market is more efficient than it used to be.
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                                            • donjuan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-29-07
                                              • 3993

                                              #23
                                              Change to a 7 point tease and go New England and Oakland. I like teasing to 14.5, there was actually one game last year Oakland/Tennessee that i double teased to -2.5 and +14.5
                                              ----->

                                              No disrespect here, but if you play opposite sides in the game, some bookmakers call that a "dumb-guy" teaser, since it is an anti-correlated parlay.
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82874

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by donjuan
                                                I have bets on the Skins, although not at -7.5. Anyway, that has little to do with the inane comment you made.
                                                I would not bet against Pat Venditto's lock of the year. Only an eccentric bettor will defy conventional wisdom and fade Patty.
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                                                • durito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-03-06
                                                  • 13173

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by donjuan
                                                  Meh. I disagree with this, mostly because even though road faves are historically a poor subset, it's my belief that the market is more efficient than it used to be.
                                                  probably

                                                  i still play them. just not at -110.
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                                                  • rm18
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-20-05
                                                    • 22291

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by donjuan
                                                    ----->
                                                    I understand this, I teased Tennessee -2.5 with other games, and Oakland +14.5 with other games I get that you should not pout them together
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                                                    • durito
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                      • 13173

                                                      #27
                                                      winless home dogs at 0-5 or worse have in fact been over 60% ATS since 1985.

                                                      these sorts of things were easy money years ago. they are factored into the line today.
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                                                      • bostonbruins
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-02-08
                                                        • 3272

                                                        #28
                                                        Here's mine, can't lose..

                                                        7 Point Teaser (5 Teams) 10/26/08 00:47 ET
                                                        Result: Pending
                                                        Texans(Houston) -2
                                                        Bills(Buffalo) +6
                                                        Rams(StLouis) +14.5
                                                        Redskins(Washington) -0.5
                                                        49ers(SanFrancisco) +1.5

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                                                        • durito
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-03-06
                                                          • 13173

                                                          #29
                                                          crossing 0 is definitely a sharp play
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                                                          • purecarnagge
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-05-07
                                                            • 4843

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bostonbruins
                                                            Here's mine, can't lose..

                                                            7 Point Teaser (5 Teams) 10/26/08 00:47 ET
                                                            Result: Pending
                                                            Texans(Houston) -2
                                                            Bills(Buffalo) +6
                                                            Rams(StLouis) +14.5
                                                            Redskins(Washington) -0.5
                                                            49ers(SanFrancisco) +1.5

                                                            3 teams max on teasers otherwise your just ****ing yourself
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                                                            • Kingctb27
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-16-08
                                                              • 2258

                                                              #31
                                                              I actually like Cleveland +13.
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                                                              • Justin7
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-31-06
                                                                • 8577

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                                                3 teams max on teasers otherwise your just ****ing yourself
                                                                You're kidding, right?

                                                                Do I need to do a video on teaser EV as a function of number of legs?
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                                                                • daggerkobe
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-25-08
                                                                  • 10744

                                                                  #33
                                                                  teasers are a waste of money.
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                                                                  • durito
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                                    • 13173

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                                    teasers are a waste of money.
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                                                                    • colt29
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 03-22-07
                                                                      • 381

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by donjuan
                                                                      It's not about conventional wisdom. It's about basic math. You are teasing across a bunch of numbers that are basically worthless. If your logic about unders and the "lack of safety" holds true, then you should be massively on the under and on the Raiders +7.5. Would you take a 12 pt dog and buy a half pt for 10 cents?
                                                                      should quote the Billy madison. we are all dumber from that stupid bet. teasers r for people that cant bet. hilarious
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