Who is a bigger bust: Ryan Leaf or Demarcus Russell?

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  • daggerkobe
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    • 03-25-08
    • 10744

    #36
    Because McNabb has cost me more money than any other QB in history.... therefore I hate him.
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    • ms61853
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      • 04-10-07
      • 731

      #37
      Originally posted by daggerkobe
      Pizza boy is comparing Peyton to Russell??????

      He really is a KOOK.
      I simply stated a FACT. But I realize those are things you have a problem with.
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      • daggerkobe
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        • 03-25-08
        • 10744

        #38
        There were 19 QBs with better ratings than Peyton, what's your point?

        Oh, right, no point... just another KOOKY, irreverent ramblings of a pizza delivery boy.
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        • ms61853
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          • 04-10-07
          • 731

          #39
          Originally posted by daggerkobe
          There were 19 QBs with better ratings than Peyton, what's your point?

          Oh, right, no point... just another KOOKY, irreverent ramblings of a pizza delivery boy.
          So? It shows anybody can have a bad stretch, and Russel is a second year QB on a bad team who had been having a better year than what will likely be a hall of fame QB ( Russel is roughly in the middle of the pack; you act like Russel has been a disgrace).

          You were also wrong about Ryan winning his first 3 games. SD won his first 2, no thanks to the way he played. I was just going to let that BS go, until you came on here acting your usual asshole self.

          The whole issue is you were a dumbass on your bets, so you want to blame anybody but yourself for being a dumbass.

          I won $600 on New Orleans! FU Obamatard!
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82874

            #40
            Akili Smith was worse than Russel and Leaf. Biggest bust ever. Akili who?
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            • firedawg
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              • 10-08-08
              • 39219

              #41
              Originally posted by outforseason36
              Hopefully you forgot him, but how do you forget to even mention Donovan McNabb? He is arguably the greatest black quarterback in the history of the NFL.
              donovan=king of the 5 yard dump pass
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              • daggerkobe
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-25-08
                • 10744

                #42
                Anyone can have a bad stretch... true... except Russell has never had a GOOD stretch! You stupid fvck!

                Anyone that compares Peyton to Russell is an automatic dumbfvck.

                Not only do you make up lies about Obama but also lie about what bets you make. Pretty funny that you make 20 daily threads about Obama but none about what bets you make, cause you don't bet. Plus we all know you don't have the money to bet no $600 since blacks don't tip, remember?

                Get a REAL job you fvcking loser. Pizza delivery is for college students not a 20 year career for stupid racist hicks like you.
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                • rm18
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                  • 09-20-05
                  • 22291

                  #43
                  Originally posted by firedawg
                  donovan=king of the 5 yard dump pass
                  McNabb along with Marc Bulger is the best I have ever seen at picking up 3 and 10+
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                  • ms61853
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                    • 04-10-07
                    • 731

                    #44
                    Anyone can have a bad stretch... true... except Russell has never had a GOOD stretch! You stupid fvck!


                    Up until today, Russel's stretch for the season was better than Peyton's.

                    Anyone that compares Peyton to Russell is an automatic dumbfvck.

                    Who did that? I gave you a fact.

                    Not only do you make up lies about Obama but also lie about what bets you make. Pretty funny that you make 20 daily threads about Obama but none about what bets you make, cause you don't bet.

                    No, I don't discuss my bets much, because it really doesn't matter. Occasionally, I do.




                    Plus we all know you don't have the money to bet no $600 since blacks don't tip, remember?


                    They don't (at least in my experience), but I don't have to worry about that since I haven't done that job in 10 years. And you are the one coming on here bitching about black quarterbacks not being competent when the one in question has demonstrated the competency of a future hall of famer.




                    Get a REAL job you fvcking loser. Pizza delivery is for college students not a 20 year career for stupid racist hicks like you.

                    I have a real job. A professional job. And in fact pizza delivery was a real job, too.
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                    • I.R.B
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-12-08
                      • 3209

                      #45
                      He will get better, They just need some line men to protect his ass.
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                      • Brady2Moss
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-02-08
                        • 1500

                        #46
                        Ya but Russell plays for the RAIDERS

                        Randy Moss played for the Raiders and ppl thought his career was over......
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                        • daggerkobe
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-25-08
                          • 10744

                          #47
                          Again, 19 QBs had better ratings than Peyton after 4 games.... your point is what again?

                          Wait, let me make your point for you since you can't.... "Russell is better QB than Peyton even though his career rating is 20 pts lower. Who cares if Peyton missed the entire pre-season due to injury which could explain his lowest QB rating since his rookie season..... Russell is far superior as his team's 1-4 record indicates compared to 3-2 for Peyton." OMG, I felt like a KOOK making this silly point.

                          You don't discuss your bets except to boast you won? Gee, we should all do that. Not post a single bet PRIOR to the game, then when it's over we can all claim we won. Boy won't that be fun!

                          Better get your eyes check. Where in the thread did I complain about black QBs? Oh wait, forgot you're a KOOK who makes bets after games are over and live in make believe world where blacks don't tip. Take off your hood and go get some fresh air, you are getting KOOKIER with every post.

                          Didn't say pizza delivery wasn't a real job..... for college students. Again, I repeat, get a REAL job... preferably one where you don't have to depend on tips since you like to bad mouth entire races for supposedly not tipping. 10 years ago? Yet you post to Pizzadelivery.com for fun? Yeah right.... more like it's your CURRENT job.
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                          • ms61853
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                            • 04-10-07
                            • 731

                            #48
                            [QUOTE=daggerkobe;1107576]Again, 19 QBs had better ratings than Peyton after 4 games.... your point is what again?

                            Wait, let me make your point for you since you can't.... "Russell is better QB than Peyton even though his career rating is 20 pts lower. Who cares if Peyton missed the entire pre-season due to injury which could explain his lowest QB rating since his rookie season..... Russell is far superior as his team's 1-4 record indicates compared to 3-2 for Peyton." OMG, I felt like a KOOK making this silly point.

                            Why don't you you ask ARCHIE Manning about how good a quarterback is compared to the team he played for? He was better than either of his sons, and just got killed in New Orleans. I mean beat to death.

                            You don't discuss your bets except to boast you won? Gee, we should all do that. Not post a single bet PRIOR to the game, then when it's over we can all claim we won. Boy won't that be fun!

                            The example posted was done so before the game was ever played.


                            Better get your eyes check. Where in the thread did I complain about black QBs?

                            The only QBs you complained about were black ones.

                            Didn't say pizza delivery wasn't a real job..... for college students. Again, I repeat, get a REAL job... preferably one where you don't have to depend on tips since you like to bad mouth entire races for supposedly not tipping. 10 years ago? Yet you post to Pizzadelivery.com for fun?

                            Actually go to that site (I haven't been there for a while) and make that argument with the posters there.

                            I post to many websites; I try and obtain a true varied view point.
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                            • daggerkobe
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-25-08
                              • 10744

                              #49
                              Archie Manning better than Peyton and Eli?

                              What makes him better... his career QB rating of 67? or maybe his 48 more INTs than TDs? or his 26% winning percentage?

                              Saint were awful BECAUSE of Archie you RETARD!!!!!!!!! Funny thing is he also played for the Oilers and the Vikings and led them to a stellar 6-35 record.

                              Show me where you posted your $600 bet on Saints? I'll even accept a pizza delivery forum posting.

                              Everything's a race war with you huh? Yes, Russell is black but that's not why I complained. Unlike you, I don't care what skin color he is. He would SUCK as a white, asian or hispanic also. Punch another hole in that hood of yours as I've complimented many black QBs in the thread. So nice try dipshit.

                              You posted that you are "racist because blacks don't tip" on a pizza delivery forum to express your hatred towards blacks which all the drivers readily disagreed with. That's not sharing a view, that's spreading your ignorance. I bet you don't have the balls to say it to a black person's face, just like all you hood wearing cowards. Explains why you wear a hood and deliver pizzas for a living. Ignorant fvck.
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                              • bosterosoy
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 09-02-08
                                • 156

                                #50
                                Brady2Moss you are not a racist just a ****ing pussy ignorant country ass bitch.

                                Like you are so ****ing smart, bet only ball you played was juggling them in your mouth.

                                Faggot
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                                • ms61853
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                                  • 04-10-07
                                  • 731

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                  Archie Manning better than Peyton and Eli?

                                  What makes him better... his career QB rating of 67? or maybe his 48 more INTs than TDs? or his 26% winning percentage?

                                  Saint were awful BECAUSE of Archie you RETARD!!!!!!!!! Funny thing is he also played for the Oilers and the Vikings and led them to a stellar 6-35 record.

                                  Show me where you posted your $600 bet on Saints? I'll even accept a pizza delivery forum posting.

                                  Everything's a race war with you huh? Yes, Russell is black but that's not why I complained. Unlike you, I don't care what skin color he is. He would SUCK as a white, asian or hispanic also. Punch another hole in that hood of yours as I've complimented many black QBs in the thread. So nice try dipshit.

                                  You posted that you are "racist because blacks don't tip" on a pizza delivery forum to express your hatred towards blacks which all the drivers readily disagreed with. That's not sharing a view, that's spreading your ignorance. I bet you don't have the balls to say it to a black person's face, just like all you hood wearing cowards. Explains why you wear a hood and deliver pizzas for a living. Ignorant fvck.
                                  I see what you are about now and I understand what a POS you are.

                                  Do you realize that as far as QB ratings go, in Archie's day, defensive backs were at liberty to trash receiver's as they went down the field (no 5 yard contact rule)?

                                  I followed the Saints in those days and realize exactly what Archie went through.

                                  Archie had no offensive line and got beat to shit (literally). In fact he openly campaigned to keep his kids out of Louisiana Univerisities ao they wouldn't have to go through what he went through.

                                  You are trash and I am glad you lost today.
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                                  • daggerkobe
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-25-08
                                    • 10744

                                    #52
                                    Let's see... Archie sucked with the Saints, the Vikings AND the Oilers. At what point do you realize maybe HE sucked?

                                    I'm glad you lost at life.

                                    Delivering pizzas for 20 years. What a LOSER.
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                                    • CaneDawg
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                                      • 08-25-08
                                      • 6256

                                      #53
                                      Tony Mandarich
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #54
                                        wow... not a lot of positive coming out of this thread.

                                        but is interesting to read through later and see who has a brain and who spouts out mis-information and half-thoughts.
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                                        • tab
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-15-07
                                          • 1106

                                          #55
                                          Raiders are just cursed. When Al davis dies, this curse will be lifted. Even if Russell was on a good football team, he would be a below average QB. Al Davis is an idiot for drafting Russell. Lane knew it was mistake to take Russell.
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #56
                                            forget race.

                                            being a decent Qb in pee wee pop warner football, isn't easy.... but most good athletes can do it

                                            being a good qb in high school takes a little somthing extra special... more then just athleticism

                                            being a qb good enough to go to a D I school on scholarship is exceedingly rare.

                                            A qb that is able to crack the starting lineup on a D I squad is amazing.

                                            a qb that is able to garner national attention at a DI school is more rare then people with 6 toes.

                                            a qb that is able to step from DI national acclaim to a starting role in the NFL is more rare then republicans in chicago.

                                            a qb that has a starting role in the NFL that is 'remembered' for being one of the best at his position for any period of time is less then 20-25 in a billion.


                                            the truth is.... without a good/great supporting cast of skill guys.... a good o-line and a good defense... there are about 7 guys in modern nfl history that we can recall as honestly truly "GREAT" out of billions of people and millions of football players from all levels.

                                            the truth is, being an NFL qb may be one of the most demanding jobs in all of sports...and if you aren't in the top .001% in about a half dozen areas of athletic/mental/emotional ability... you'll never make it.

                                            thats why you can make a longer list of "great" college qb's with infinite talent that washed out in the NFL... then a list of great qb's with a decent amount of longevity.


                                            you might see some guys come in and do okay for a couple years... but to exel at a high level for any period of time is almost miraculous.
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                                            • Kingctb27
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-16-08
                                              • 2258

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Both are pitiful

                                              Why anyone drafts black QB's is behond belief, they cannot be good nfl qb's
                                              Not true. McNabb, McNair (was), Campbell are all very solid QB's.
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                                              • so-classy#23
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 06-16-08
                                                • 156

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by poetwarrior41
                                                On ESPN Gameday this morning,Cris Carter called Jamarcus Russel the best QB the Raiders have ever had........... I could name 10 that are better then this bust. I think CC must be back on the Yae- Yo!

                                                1. Ken Stabler
                                                2. Rich Gannon
                                                3. Jim Plunkett
                                                4. Marc Wilson
                                                5. Jim Otto
                                                6. Jeff Hostetler
                                                7.Daryle Lamonica
                                                8. Jay Shcroeder
                                                9. Steve Buerlein
                                                10.Vince Evans
                                                Feel free to keep adding names that were better then Jamarcus Russel.
                                                jay schroeder?? i hope you are kidding...moderate career out of UCLA...what is wrong with you people...give him a few seasons
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                                                • so-classy#23
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 06-16-08
                                                  • 156

                                                  #59
                                                  bigger bust the great andre ware out of houston
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                                                  • etothep
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-14-07
                                                    • 1299

                                                    #60
                                                    yeh, if you don't have a qb rating of at least 100 after your first 200 pass attempts, then you should be flipping burgers
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                                                    • t-bone
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-18-08
                                                      • 3732

                                                      #61
                                                      Russell is simply too big to be a good NFL QB......and like most black QB's their accuracy is always a question mark. Lane Kiffin must be licking his chops!
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                                                      • SBR Lou
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                                                        • 08-02-07
                                                        • 37863

                                                        #62
                                                        I'd have to say Ryan Leaf without question.
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                                                        • lovetobet
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-06-08
                                                          • 1294

                                                          #63
                                                          At this point Leaf. We'll see with Jamarcus
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                                                          • saddestbison
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 09-29-08
                                                            • 127

                                                            #64
                                                            his qb rating is in the middle of the pack among qb's with his INT rating in the top 5

                                                            His receives drop a dozen balls a game.

                                                            You don't even know his friggin name.

                                                            I can't believe this is a real thread
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