President Obama BEHIND 7pts - Everything is backfiring

[King Mayan]

Something tells me, after Romney gets taken behind the woodshed, you guys will start moving these threads to the politics forum.

[stevenash]

[King Mayan]

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Mayan, come on pal. You gotta bring something to the table besides George W. Bush pictures. He has nothing to do with this election.

[Sam Odom]

Mayan, come on pal.

he's doing the best he can... have you seen when he tries to converse?

[King Mayan]

Mayan, come on pal. You gotta bring something to the table besides George W. Bush pictures. He has nothing to do with this election.

He has everything to do with this election..cons say its the economy. Who was running the ship in 08??

If i blow up my car's motor, should i be pissed off at the mechanic for not fixing my shitfest quick enough??

Like it or not, Bush left us in a depression, the only mistake obama did is thinking it was recession.

[King Mayan]

he's doing the best he can... have you seen when he tries to converse?

i should be more like sammy and use copy and paste more often

[PickWinnerAllDay]

He has everything to do with this election..cons say its the economy. Who was running the ship in 08??

If i blow up my car's motor, should i be pissed off at the mechanic for not fixing my shitfest quick enough??

Like it or not, Bush left us in a depression, the only mistake obama did is thinking it was recession.

Bush was a more liberal minded president economically is the problem with your statements.

[King Mayan]

Bush was a more liberal minded president economically is the problem with your statements.

Still part of the neo con team.. Sorry.

Plus, he raped the constitution.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Still part of the neo con team.. Sorry.

Plus, he raped the constitution.

See, you can't stay on topic. You were talking about the economy, Bush was not a true conservative when it comes to the economy (neither is Romney though...) so again, how is Bush relevant in this election?

[Sam Odom]

he's doing the best he can... have you seen when he tries to converse?

See, you can't stay on topic.

now you see...

[King Mayan]

How is he not??? Did obama give us this depression??

[Sam Odom]

How is he not??? Did obama give us this depression??

The recession ended 3yrs ago according to Obama's PhDs


(Reuters) - The recession ended in June 2009, making it the longest downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s, the National Bureau of Economic Research said on Monday.

[King Mayan]

sammy go take your pills and read some more tea party websites.. You copy and paste smart guy..

[Sam Odom]

You copy and paste smart guy..

it is sorta like footnoting - i like to be as accurate as possible unlike too many on here

[King Mayan]

Nahh, youre just a sheep that believes anything that is written in a propaganda website..

[acl123]

Mayan i will stab you you fuckking beaner
Go back to south america you ****.

[Sam Odom]

Nahh, youre just a sheep that believes anything that is written in a propaganda website..

see... ^ that ^ is why you are small potatoes.... (Reuters) is NOT a propaganda website unless you ask a neo-con

[Shaudius]

why because you've seen it said over and over again on Lib sites & blogs ?

Poll Accuracy in the 2008 Presidential Election
—Initial Report, November 5, 2008—
Costas Panagopoulos, Ph.D.
Department of Political Science
Fordham University

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The world of public opinion polling has fundamentally shifted since 2008. Rasmussen is using a model that doesn't take into account this shift, its as simple as that. I've told Sam Odom this multiple times but he doesn't seem to care or have any rebuttal to it. A) Rasmussen only polls landline phones, more and more people every day, especially poor people and young people have abandoned landline phones in the last four years. B) Rasmussen only calls once, unlike other polling firms that call multiple times, he does this between the hours of 5 PM and 9 PM on weeknights, this is a period of time that slants towards those who work traditional shifts and are home at night, i.e. people who work white collar jobs, also people who are older who don't go out after work. C) Rasmussen only speaks to the first person to answer the phone, this generally speaking is not the young adult in the household, and is instead more likely to be the senior in the household. D) He tries to correct for this, through party and age identification, but because his initial polling is flawed his self identification numbers are equally flawed. He also tries to make up for this with cross sectional internet polling, but I don't even have to tell you the many ways in which voluntary internet polling is flawed.

All of these problems are more pronounced today than they were in 2008, especially since more and more young adults moving back home to live with their parents because of the state of the economy, and the aforementioned problem of only polling landline phones.

[Sam Odom]

The world of public opinion polling has fundamentally shifted since 2008.

we shall see in Nov

[King Mayan]

Mayan i will stab you you fuckking beaner
Go back to south america you ****.

anytime you punk pussy..

[King Mayan]

see... ^ that ^ is why you are small potatoes.... (Reuters) is NOT a propaganda website unless you ask a neo-con

Left wing and right wing websites are all propaganda websites.. Sorry.

The truth is always down the middle.

[acl123]

Mayan i will **** you up.
keep acting tough behind a keyboard.

[Shaudius]

we shall see in Nov

We already saw a preview but you seem to discount it because it wasn't a "national" election. But Rasmussen was biased toward the Republicans on average ~4.5% in 2010. We will equally see it in 2012, because like I said, public opinion polling has shifted and Rasmussen has not gotten with the times. This has nothing to do with his bias toward Romney right now(although his methodology is skewed toward Republicans because of the problems I laid out) and everything to do with his methodology in general.

As I've said before, I trust polls that come out of Fox News before I trust Rasmussen Reports, he's just completely out of touch with the proper way to do a public opinion poll in a landline light society.

[golfrulz]

Mayan i will **** you up.
keep acting tough behind a keyboard.

[neverstoppers23]

national polls = meaningless


national polls = meaningless


can we stop arguing over this non-sense.

all you need to know. every-one of the top republicans stayed out, because they know chances are obama is going to win. And they don't want their name trashed because they lost by a landslide to obama. by staying out they can just come back and fight in 2016.

so can we please stop having poll updates every 5 days.

[andywend]

- Up Date -

Saturday May 12 - This poll is really the 1st 'snapshot' after Prez Obama's gay marriage announcement

Romney 50%

Obama 42%

The gap is widening... 8%

Just the facts Ma'am


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Notice how when Rasmussen had Obama up by over 10 points in late February, you didn't hear liberal democrats like Shaudius questioning their results. Its only when they see results they don't like that liberal democrats make up all sorts of B.S. about Rasmussen polls.

Good luck getting 10k down somewhere else. I thought maybe there was conviction behind your words, and you'd take an even money bet on something you so strongly believe will happen.It's easy to type words, but when it comes time to put some money behind them, people start thinking more clearly.

SBRJohn, would have no problem getting $10K down on Romney at current market prices and if he was willing to accept only +150, he could get a MILLION DOLLARS or more filled within 24 hours. ProfaneReality, why would SBRJohn make a $10,000 bet giving you Obama at even money, when he can get +165 or thereabouts everywhere else? If John did happen to make the bet with you, you would run like a pussy and open up an Intrade account as fast as you could and bet Romney at the current market price.

You said you like Obama and SBRJohn said he likes Romney. He is willing to make a $10,000 bet with you at the current market price and you're running like a scared coward.

I sure do DESPISE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!!

[Shaudius]

Notice how when Rasmussen had Obama up by over 10 points in late February, you didn't hear liberal democrats like Shaudius questioning their results. Its only when they see results they don't like that liberal democrats make up all sorts of B.S. about Rasmussen polls.

a) I'm not a liberal democrat, b) I didn't post this poll, Sam Odom did. I didn't question the results back in February because I looked at them and said, Rasmussen Reports is bunk anyway, so why bother to look at his results that he'll just alter by another poll that states the Republican identification is at an all time high again(which he did in March and April btw) and use this to skew his numbers toward Republicans, and I certainly didn't post the poll on SBR like Sam Odom is want to do with every poll that skews toward Romney but not do with any poll that skews toward Obama(of which there are two that show him with as large a lead as Romney has in Rasmussen within the last week).

According to Rasmussen party identification by Democrats has decreased in every year since Obama's election. This of course has nothing to do with the fact that Democrats are more likely to be cell phone only than Republicans based on demographics which, again, is the only group that he surveys. If Sam Odom had posted a poll that had Obama up 10 pts and it was from Rasmussen, I would similarly discount it because its Rasmussen.

I sure do DESPISE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!!

You also despise minorities, so its no shock that you also despise liberal democrats.

P.S. Rasmussen's latest tracking today is back down to Romney+4, which speaks to the fact that he had one outlier day of polling data that skewed it all the way up to +7/+8 and that its now back down, but is still skewing more toward Romney than every other major poll out there, shock of all shocks since Rasmussen was +4.5 on average favoring Republican in 2010, and the numbers are only gonna get worse since more and more people are abandoning landlines.

[teaserpleaser]

Mayan i will stab you you fuckking beaner
Go back to south america you ****.

... god i cant wait until november to see these losers on sbr crying like they did when obama won the first time.... crisp, duece, even Tsop pissed off.. It was great

[stevenash]

[King Mayan]

Only dumbfukks would miss the retard that actually put us in this MESS..

[DwightShrute]

Only dumbfukks would miss the retard that actually put us in this MESS..

only dumbfukks would even consider voting for the guy who made it much worse in half the time

[muldoon]

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[Shaudius]

only dumbfukks would even consider voting for the guy who made it much worse in half the time

Made what much worse? Is the economy much worse now than it was in 2008? How was the economy at the end of 2000 versus the end of 2008? How do you think the economy at the end of 2008 will compare to the economy at the end of 2012?

Or are you just referring to figures out the inherited debt and deficit, and claiming the Republican position that Obama is responsible for ballooning the national debt without any consideration about what policies caused portions of the debt.

[DwightShrute]

Made what much worse? Is the economy much worse now than it was in 2008? How was the economy at the end of 2000 versus the end of 2008? How do you think the economy at the end of 2008 will compare to the economy at the end of 2012?

Or are you just referring to figures out the inherited debt and deficit, and claiming the Republican position that Obama is responsible for ballooning the national debt without any consideration about what policies caused portions of the debt.

are you really excited about King Obama's first term? Really? Is the bar set so low that democrats will rather vote him in for another 4 years rather that give someone else a shot to see if they can do a better job? How on Earth can another President do worse? You want this entitlement society? Massive spending? Bailing out his union buddies? I haven't even mentioned all the lies.

How many examples throughout history do we have to mention how government is inept and shouldn't be involved in business? But yet they keep telling you that they want to be more involved and want more of your money to squander. And some of you just want to let them. Unreal.

Who said that every American DESERVES to own a home? Who created Freddie and Fannie? Who ignored the obvious housing bubble that could only burst one day? This entitlement attitude got the US in this mess in the first place, then 3+ years of more of it and you want to vote for another 4 more years? OMFG!